Airliners-India Flickr Group & Facebook    FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  126 Fighters for IAF...(contd thread)          Airliners-India Forum Index -> Military Aviation & Space View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message the_380 Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 2329 Location: Mumbai, India Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 5:49 pm    Post subject: 126 Fighters for IAF...(contd thread) India to start bidding process of acquiring 126 fighter jets soon, defense minister says India will soon invite bids from combat aircraft makers for the 126 fighter jets the country's air force plans to buy, Defense Minister A.K. Anthony said Wednesday. The deal is estimated to be worth between US$6.5 billion and US$10 billion (€5.4 billion and €8.3 billion). "It is in the final stages," said Anthony, without giving a specific timeframe, speaking to reporters at an air show in the southern technology hub of Bangalore. India also is considering buying nearly 200 army reconnaissance and observation helicopters, Anthony said. Aviation companies from around the world have flocked to the air show, hoping for a piece of the billions of dollars in defense contracts the South Asian country plans to spend in modernizing its military. Full Article _________________ http://www.myspace.com/avsatsworld A Walt Disney and 20th Century Fox Audio Producer!!! Back to top shivendrashukla Member Joined: 21 Dec 2006 Posts: 1354 Location: Mumbai, India Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 7:24 pm    Post subject: Current info as heard by me are that final purchase will be of about 200 aircrafts. 80 will be MiG 35 and rest un named. Sorry but no sources. Just heard from some one Cheers Shivendra Back to top the_380 Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 2329 Location: Mumbai, India Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 8:31 pm    Post subject: Sorry but are the MiG-35s already flying with some air force? _________________ http://www.myspace.com/avsatsworld A Walt Disney and 20th Century Fox Audio Producer!!! Back to top shivendrashukla Member Joined: 21 Dec 2006 Posts: 1354 Location: Mumbai, India Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 9:33 pm    Post subject: No they arn't. These are specifically developed for India. An upgraded version of Mig 29 Back to top the_380 Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 2329 Location: Mumbai, India Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 11:59 pm    Post subject: shivendrashukla wrote: No they arn't. These are specifically developed for India. An upgraded version of Mig 29 Oh! And i guess these are supposed to have VSTOL right? (Vertical Short Take Off and Landing) _________________ http://www.myspace.com/avsatsworld A Walt Disney and 20th Century Fox Audio Producer!!! Back to top HamiltonAir Member Joined: 25 Dec 2006 Posts: 937 Location: Bangalore Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 2:09 am    Post subject: the_380 wrote: shivendrashukla wrote: No they arn't. These are specifically developed for India. An upgraded version of Mig 29 Oh! And i guess these are supposed to have VSTOL right? (Vertical Short Take Off and Landing) The Mig-35 is the upgraded version of the Mig-29 otherwise also known as the Mig-29OVT (with the thrust vectors I suppose). Hmm were they specifically developed for india? and I dont think they are VSTOL aircrafts. Anybody has more information on this? Regards, _________________ HamiltonAir Back to top the_380 Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 2329 Location: Mumbai, India Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 12:43 pm    Post subject: oh sorry i guess i confused myself with F-35 F-35 _________________ http://www.myspace.com/avsatsworld A Walt Disney and 20th Century Fox Audio Producer!!! Back to top HAWK21M Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 8132 Location: Mumbai, INDIA Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 2:18 pm    Post subject: The IAF should Balance the orders.Greater percentage of Mig35s & a few F16 & F18.Keeping all Interested & no sanction stopping spares risk. regds MEL _________________ Think of the Brighter side !!! Back to top the_380 Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 2329 Location: Mumbai, India Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 4:04 pm    Post subject: HAWK21M wrote: The IAF should Balance the orders.Greater percentage of Mig35s & a few F16 & F18.Keeping all Interested & no sanction stopping spares risk. But that would increase the expenses.... a difficult thing for a country like india _________________ http://www.myspace.com/avsatsworld A Walt Disney and 20th Century Fox Audio Producer!!! Back to top HamiltonAir Member Joined: 25 Dec 2006 Posts: 937 Location: Bangalore Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 6:45 pm    Post subject: HAWK21M wrote: The IAF should Balance the orders.Greater percentage of Mig35s & a few F16 & F18.Keeping all Interested & no sanction stopping spares risk. regds MEL Exactly! They should split the orders as you have mentioned, but I am afraid our people will go with the russian birds, OTOH, I would love to see some F-18s and F-16s in our airforce Regards, _________________ HamiltonAir Back to top shivendrashukla Member Joined: 21 Dec 2006 Posts: 1354 Location: Mumbai, India Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 5:27 pm    Post subject: Yes the MiG 35 has been specifically designed for India. I am not very sure that we will get to see an American Fighter in IAF's stables soon. Top IAF brass still prefers EADS Typhoon and Saab's grippen higher than F-18's. F-16 are a strict NO-NO. Why have they even bothered to enter the bid is beyond me. Back to top HamiltonAir Member Joined: 25 Dec 2006 Posts: 937 Location: Bangalore Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 1:49 am    Post subject: shivendrashukla wrote: Yes the MiG 35 has been specifically designed for India. I am not very sure that we will get to see an American Fighter in IAF's stables soon. Top IAF brass still prefers EADS Typhoon and Saab's grippen higher than F-18's. F-16 are a strict NO-NO. Why have they even bothered to enter the bid is beyond me. I never knew that the Mig-35 was specifically designed for India and I am not sure if the IAF brass prefers the eurofighter and gripens over the F-16 or F-18s. However, do you have any supporting article related to what you have said? Regards, _________________ HamiltonAir Back to top HAWK21M Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 8132 Location: Mumbai, INDIA Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 6:23 pm    Post subject: The Mig35 is a good Aircraft.I guess the Advantage the Russians have is No Sanctions assured. regds MEL _________________ Think of the Brighter side !!! Back to top shivendrashukla Member Joined: 21 Dec 2006 Posts: 1354 Location: Mumbai, India Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 7:58 pm    Post subject: HamiltonAir wrote: I never knew that the Mig-35 was specifically designed for India and I am not sure if the IAF brass prefers the eurofighter and gripens over the F-16 or F-18s. However, do you have any supporting article related to what you have said? Sorry no sources. My parents are in IAF. High post. Well not that high also!!! . Had a discussion with one of their colleagues. He told me. It's not in the media as yet. Sorry can't substantiate my claim. Cheers Shivendra Back to top the_380 Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 2329 Location: Mumbai, India Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 8:48 pm    Post subject: I can remember once some Eurofighter official claiming that IAF was interested for their Typhoon aircrafts _________________ http://www.myspace.com/avsatsworld A Walt Disney and 20th Century Fox Audio Producer!!! Back to top HamiltonAir Member Joined: 25 Dec 2006 Posts: 937 Location: Bangalore Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 5:34 pm    Post subject: I wonder why the Eurofighter didnt visit AeroIndia 2007, would have been a great sight to watch the typhoon demonstration. _________________ HamiltonAir Back to top HAWK21M Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 8132 Location: Mumbai, INDIA Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reason could be the Chances of being part of the IAF were slim. regds MEL _________________ Think of the Brighter side !!! Back to top Aiel Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 927 Location: Bangalore Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 9:32 pm    Post subject: Bangalore air show: Indian combat aircraft order could be split between the MiG-35 and Western types India could divide its order for 126 multirole combat aircraft (MRCA) into two, with Russia's MiG-35 a front-runner for the first batch of fighters if the plan goes ahead. But by splitting up the contract, India could have the first aircraft by 2012 if it awards the first order to a manufacturer that can meet an earlier deadline. As Russia has indicated that the MiG-35 could be supplied within a shorter timeframe, it would be the likely front-runner for the first batch of aircraft. The winner of the second contract would supply aircraft up until the 2020s. The Boeing F/A-18, Lockheed Martin F-16, Dassault Rafale, Eurofighter Typhoon, and Saab Gripen are also in the fray, but sources say the US companies have an edge over the Europeans. The air force could also increase the order to around 200 aircraft if there are further delays to the indigenous Tejas Light Combat Aircraft (LCA), say sources. Link Here _________________ My Flickr photos My JP.net account Back to top HAWK21M Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 8132 Location: Mumbai, INDIA Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 9:45 pm    Post subject: Any reason for Ratan TATA not flying in the Mig 35. regds MEL _________________ Think of the Brighter side !!! Back to top the_380 Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 2329 Location: Mumbai, India Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 9:54 pm    Post subject: HAWK21M wrote: Any reason for Ratan TATA not flying in the Mig 35. Maybe he didn't feel to safe with it _________________ http://www.myspace.com/avsatsworld A Walt Disney and 20th Century Fox Audio Producer!!! Back to top HAWK21M Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 8132 Location: Mumbai, INDIA Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 12:49 pm    Post subject: What was Ratan Tatas Idea to fly these Aircraft.Was it just a desire or something more. regds MEL _________________ Think of the Brighter side !!! Back to top the_380 Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 2329 Location: Mumbai, India Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 5:27 pm    Post subject: HAWK21M wrote: What was Ratan Tatas Idea to fly these Aircraft.Was it just a desire or something more. Boeing must have offered them as a part of their marketing campaign _________________ http://www.myspace.com/avsatsworld A Walt Disney and 20th Century Fox Audio Producer!!! Back to top shivendrashukla Member Joined: 21 Dec 2006 Posts: 1354 Location: Mumbai, India Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 8:50 pm    Post subject: HAWK21M wrote: Any reason for Ratan TATA not flying in the Mig 35. Coz it's a single seater plane.. Back to top Aiel Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 927 Location: Bangalore Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 9:06 pm    Post subject: the_380 wrote: Boeing must have offered them as a part of their marketing campaign It certainly worked. The newspapers were certainly full of news regarding the flight. _________________ My Flickr photos My JP.net account Back to top HAWK21M Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 8132 Location: Mumbai, INDIA Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 6:49 pm    Post subject: shivendrashukla wrote: HAWK21M wrote: Any reason for Ratan TATA not flying in the Mig 35. Coz it's a single seater plane.. Thats the Right Answer regds MEL _________________ Think of the Brighter side !!! Back to top HamiltonAir Member Joined: 25 Dec 2006 Posts: 937 Location: Bangalore Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 4:10 pm    Post subject: I think there were 2 Mig-35s at the airshow and one of them was a 2 seater. Regards, _________________ HamiltonAir Back to top HAWK21M Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 8132 Location: Mumbai, INDIA Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 7:51 pm    Post subject: Was there a Mig35 trainer also present. regds MEL _________________ Think of the Brighter side !!! Back to top shivendrashukla Member Joined: 21 Dec 2006 Posts: 1354 Location: Mumbai, India Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 10:17 pm    Post subject: HamiltonAir wrote: I think there were 2 Mig-35s at the airshow and one of them was a 2 seater. Regards, I think you may be confusing it with Su-30 which is infact a 2 seater plane. Back to top HamiltonAir Member Joined: 25 Dec 2006 Posts: 937 Location: Bangalore Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 1:38 am    Post subject: Well I surely know the difference between a SU-30 and a MIG-35, I have a pic withme, I cannot post it here, coz its not mine and moreover, I dont know the procedure to post a pic here. _________________ HamiltonAir Back to top Aseem Member Joined: 15 Dec 2006 Posts: 2841 Location: YYZ Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 1:59 am    Post subject: HamiltonAir wrote: Well I surely know the difference between a SU-30 and a MIG-35, I have a pic withme, I cannot post it here, coz its not mine and moreover, I dont know the procedure to post a pic here. So long as you quote the source and provide link it is fine. How many of us have photos of our own rgds VT-ASJ _________________ [url=http://openflights.org/user/aseemsjohri] [/url] Back to top HamiltonAir Member Joined: 25 Dec 2006 Posts: 937 Location: Bangalore Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 5:38 pm    Post subject: Aseem wrote: HamiltonAir wrote: Well I surely know the difference between a SU-30 and a MIG-35, I have a pic withme, I cannot post it here, coz its not mine and moreover, I dont know the procedure to post a pic here. So long as you quote the source and provide link it is fine. How many of us have photos of our own rgds VT-ASJ I have a pic saved inmy comp, but as I said, I dont know how to post a pic here, if somebody can help me with it, I'llbe glad to share it with u all. Regards, _________________ HamiltonAir Back to top the_380 Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 2329 Location: Mumbai, India Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 5:53 pm    Post subject: HamiltonAir wrote: I have a pic saved inmy comp, but as I said, I dont know how to post a pic here, if somebody can help me with it, I'llbe glad to share it with u all. , Upload the picture to first http://www.flickr.com then once uploaded select the Tab indicating 'All Sizes' now scroll to the bottom of the page and you'll see a URL ending in ".jpg" select that link, paste ithere in the format Code: [img]your link here in ".jpg" format[/img] _________________ http://www.myspace.com/avsatsworld A Walt Disney and 20th Century Fox Audio Producer!!! Back to top shivendrashukla Member Joined: 21 Dec 2006 Posts: 1354 Location: Mumbai, India Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 11:19 pm    Post subject: HamiltonAir wrote: Well I surely know the difference between a SU-30 and a MIG-35. Well I am not saying you are wrong. Just what i thought. You have a picture. So I am wrong in this case. No offence please anyone. Shivendra Back to top HamiltonAir Member Joined: 25 Dec 2006 Posts: 937 Location: Bangalore Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 5:07 pm    Post subject: Guys, i'll just post the link here, maybe somebody can post the pic here later, here u go: http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p125/HamiltonAir/MIG-35-Twoseater.jpg Regards, _________________ HamiltonAir Back to top the_380 Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 2329 Location: Mumbai, India Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 7:13 pm    Post subject: There you go _________________ http://www.myspace.com/avsatsworld A Walt Disney and 20th Century Fox Audio Producer!!! Back to top HAWK21M Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 8132 Location: Mumbai, INDIA Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 4:49 pm    Post subject: So why no ride for TATA on this Aircraft [Mig35]. regds MEL _________________ Think of the Brighter side !!! Back to top the_380 Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 2329 Location: Mumbai, India Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 5:17 pm    Post subject: HAWK21M wrote: So why no ride for TATA on this Aircraft [Mig35]. regds MEL He wa probably too scared to fly another Russian Jet _________________ http://www.myspace.com/avsatsworld A Walt Disney and 20th Century Fox Audio Producer!!! 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