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Indian Navy going for the Airbus A319?

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 1:25 pm    Post subject: Indian Navy going for the Airbus A319? Reply with quote

Posted 12/10/07 19:44

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Indian Navy Seeks More Money for Maritime Planes

NEW DELHI — Indian Navy officials, who were shocked that bids for their eight-plane Long Range Maritime Surveillance Aircraft program came in about double the anticipated cost, are asking the Defence Ministry for more money, a senior Navy official said.
Boeing pitched its P-8 for $2.01 billion, Airbus its A319/A320 for about $1.6 billion — both more than the roughly $1 billion allocated by India.
The Navy is likely to begin negotiations with the bidders in early January so the contract can be finalized before the financial year ends in March.
In June tests of the Boeing aircraft, a Harpoon missile did not fire accurately, Navy sources said.
A Boeing official declined to comment on the test.
The July tests of the Airbus plane went well, according to the service sources.
But they said the Navy is concerned that the United States may not sell the Harpoon to India if the Airbus plane is chosen.
The tests were carried out on surrogate aircraft carrying some systems expected to be in the final aircraft. Boeing used a 737-800 for flight trials, a C-40 for handling trials and P-3 Orions for systems trials.
Airbus used an A319 aircraft for flight trials in France and a P-3C for testing avionics and surveillance systems. The Indian team also visited EADS’ airborne center in Hamburg, Germany, for lab testing and technical document verification.
The aircraft chosen must operate for more than 15 years; fly more than 200 mph; and carry a maritime patrol radar that can track 80 air and surface targets, an identification-friend-or-foe system, electronic support measures system, data links, electro-optic devices, inertial navigation system and GPS receivers.
It must also carry air-to-surface missiles, an internal bomb bay, sonobuoys, torpedoes and aerial depth charges.
In 2005, India sent requests for proposals to U.S. firms Boeing and Lockheed Martin, France’s Dassault, Italy’s Finmeccanica, Russia’s Ilyushin Design Bureau and Brazil’s Embraer, among others.
Several companies, including Dassault, Finmeccanica and Embraer, did not submit bids.
The Indian Navy rejected bids featuring the P-3C and Il-38 because they did not meet parameters.
The Navy has a requirement of more than 35 medium- and long-range maritime aircraft.

US pressure again?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Copyright: Flight International.
(This story was sent as email).

Full story
EADS proposes maritime variant of Airbus A319 with bomb bay doors for India

Airbus, Boeing, IAI, Ilyushin and Lockheed Martin bid for reconnaissance aircraft deal

EADS plans to develop a new variant of the Airbus A319/A320 to compete with the Boeing P-8A Multi-mission Maritime Aircraft (MMA) on offer to India.

Industry sources say the Indian navy is evaluating a proposal, led by EADS Casa and based on the A319, for its eight-aircraft maritime reconnaissance requirement.

Other proposals received by India include an export variant of the US Navy’s P-8A, dubbed the P-8I, from Boeing; a new solution based on the Dassault Falcon 900 from Israel Aircraft Industries (IAI); an improved version of the Il-38 from Ilyushin, and a refurbished P-3 from Lockheed Martin.

EADS sources say the A319 proposal is similar to a maritime solution first proposed to Italy and Germany in 2003, which had a bomb-bay and missile hardpoints housed in canoe fairings. But for India, which wants an aircraft to detect and attack submarines, the bomb bay has been moved to the cargo bay and the missile hardpoints moved to the wings.

To further reduce non-recurring engineering costs, EADS Casa’s FITS mission system is being proposed for India instead of the tailor-made system offered to Italy and Germany.

“It is using part of the development for the Germans and Italians, but the concept has changed a bit. For the Germans and Italians it was a purpose-built aircraft. In the case of India, it’s a derivative aircraft,” says an EADS source.

Several other countries – including Australia, Canada and France – have expressed interest in the aircraft proposed to India and will likely be offered a similar solution based on an A320, because they require more range and endurance. However, few are expected to launch competitions for new anti-submarine warfare aircraft in the near future, the source adds.

EADS anticipates most P-3 operators will not begin to look for replacements for at least five and perhaps 10 or even 15 years. Consequently, it expects several maritime surveillance competitions will be held between 2010-20.

Another very detailed story here that says India may be retiring the Tu-142!
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would have thought MMA / P-8A Poseidon
How does the A319 beat this.

Think of the Brighter side !!!
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