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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 11:09 am    Post subject: Duplication Reply with quote

Do mods check duplication or is the onus upon the members to do the same Question

And on noticing the duplication, what should be done Exclamation
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

1. Mods have no notification when there's a new topic
2. Mods do not (and cannot) do duplicate checks for each new topic/thread.
3. Whenever a mod detects a duplicate, s/he will delete the same and point to the "original".
4. Whenever a member detects a duplicate thread - they are responsible to inform the mods (need to figure out the best way - maybe set up an email alias so all mods can be informed, or create a thread on site related??), who can then lock one of the threads.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 12:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for your update, Nimish.

I have some queries :

I noticed the duplication and brought it to the kind notice of the MOD:

http://airlinersindia.s4.bizhat.com/viewtopic.php?t=309 and http://airlinersindia.s4.bizhat.com/viewtopic.php?p=3029#3029

When i did bring to your kind notice, you took the cudgel and replied

: --snip-- <edited> {edited by Nimish to remove offensive text}

For discussion purposes : The offensive text was

"Moderators should look carefully and not allow duplication of the topics, rather than enthusiastically posting and creating confusion."

I personally feel that the role and responsibilities of MODS should be clearly defined lest, they feel prejudiced with the members.

It may be noticed that most aviation sites, it is the role of the MODS to be aware and alert of the postings on the sites.

Given a rundown of our site, most of the mods are the same. Should they not check for duplication and guide members.

If not what do MODS do Rolling Eyes

I certainly do hope that this issue is taken In Public Interest, without any bias and prejudice and does not curtail freedom of speech and expression in a civilised society.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 1:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i dont know why the fuss over this.. it was a genuine mistake since as per my outlook i thought this was more "Schedule/Ops/Tech" related than Civil Aviation but i have also explained this as my thinking not as a member of the general public but as an airline employee..

since i posted it in that forum and did not read the Civial Av forums.. i had no idea someone posted it there before me..

in any which case i outta be concerned for the apparent "trouble* it has created...

for the mess if it is because of my actions then i guess apologies are in order

regards
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Duplication can happen with members with you being an ops man, posting it in ops, but then should MODS not keep a check Question

Imagine a discussion being split or for that reason not getting enough headway would create more confusion Rolling Eyes

If we point out that a MODS has overlooked a basic principle, is that abusive is what i am trying to understand Exclamation
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JumboJet wrote:
I personally feel that the role and responsibilities of MODS should be clearly defined lest, they feel prejudiced with the members.
Could not agree more on this point. If you recall - there's a thread open in site related asking for specific feedback on the rules, any such inputs need to go there and will be taken up seriously.

JumboJet wrote:
It may be noticed that most aviation sites, it is the role of the MODS to be aware and alert of the postings on the sites.
- That is for their own benefit, however there should be no assumption that mods are looking at 100% of the threads/posts and keeping everything in memory. As per the rules, it's clearly stated that:
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Airliners-India.net will not and cannot review every message posted, and is furthermore not responsible for the content of any of these messages. If you believe a post or thread violates a rule, please bring this to our attention by contacting any of the appointed forum moderators. It would also be helpful if you indicated which rules you believe were broken. Full anonymity will be given to a person reporting a broken rule.

Please note that this means the mods are not responsible to read and cross-relate each and every post/thread - it's each members responsibility to point out duplicates so the mods can then act on it.

JumboJet wrote:
Given a rundown of our site, most of the mods are the same. Should they not check for duplication and guide members.

Yes - they should when they can. No, that's not their responsibility to go through all posts/threads.

JumboJet wrote:
If not what do MODS do Rolling Eyes
Good question - we have jobs to do (outside of AI.net) and we do those full time.

Once again refering to the rules:
Rules for the forum wrote:
9. Please respect crew members. It is a thankless job that we do, and cleaning up after others is not an amusing task. Please remember that forum moderators cannot be everywhere at all times. You may email the moderators on an issue or start a thread in the SITE RELATED forum.
9.1. Please be advised that abusive or obnoxious emails or posts will be ignored or deleted and your account may be suspended.


JumboJet wrote:
I certainly do hope that this issue is taken In Public Interest, without any bias and prejudice and does not curtail freedom of speech and expression in a civilised society.

Always our intention.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JumboJet wrote:
Duplication can happen with members with you being an ops man, posting it in ops, but then should MODS not keep a check Question

No (refer previous answer for more details). Please refer to the rules once again, and if there's any discussion on the rules, there's a thread open just for that purpose.

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If we point out that a MODS has overlooked a basic principle, is that abusive is what i am trying to understand Exclamation


There's a decent way to point it out, and there's an offensive way to point it out. Referring to the exact text that I edited out:

JumboJet wrote:
Moderators should look carefully and not allow duplication of the topics, rather than enthusiastically posting and creating confusion.Rolling Eyes

I've taken offense to your statement there since:

1. I'm not here to
JumboJet wrote:
Moderators should ... not allow duplication of the topics


2. I'm not here to
JumboJet wrote:
create confusion Rolling Eyes


Please walk on a high path and then expect others to follow, rest assured they will.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 11:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Please walk on a high path and then expect others to follow, rest assured they will.


Some assurance from a person who is a Mod first and a trend setter later or is it vice versa Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 5:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nimish wrote:
Good question - we have jobs to do (outside of AI.net) and we do those full time.


Hehe, good answer Nimish.

JJ, chillax yaar not such a big deal man. Lets get back to airlines.

Cheers
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 9:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

AKLDELNonstop wrote:
Nimish wrote:
Good question - we have jobs to do (outside of AI.net) and we do those full time.


Hehe, good answer Nimish.

JJ, chillax yaar not such a big deal man. Lets get back to airlines.

Cheers


I did chill, but was given the arrogance pill Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now that we're done with discussing the duplication issue, I'm locking this thread.
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