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Vistara has added an A320NEO to the fleet today, as VT-TQG. _________________ 10000 posts (and counting) on Airliners-India.
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Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2021 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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https://onemileatatime.com/news/vistara-newark-flight/
Vistara plans flight to Newark via LGW from DEL. Jet tried this before with limited success. Marginal yields at best unless they can get breakeven traffic yields on LGW-EWR-LGW.
And DEL again ? May be they should try from BOM where there is less competition. |
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Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2021 12:44 pm Post subject: |
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iah87 wrote: | https://onemileatatime.com/news/vistara-newark-flight/
Vistara plans flight to Newark via LGW from DEL. Jet tried this before with limited success. Marginal yields at best unless they can get breakeven traffic yields on LGW-EWR-LGW.
And DEL again ? May be they should try from BOM where there is less competition. |
BOM is a bad idea IMHO. You already have two nonstops between BOM and EWR, unless of course Vistara's product is so superlative that the moneyed gujju crowd will give United and AI a heave ho.
Vistara will most likely use AI's fifth freedom rights (they will have the same owner, soon remember?) to pick up LGW - EWR pax.
And it's not a bad idea either. If you work in Central London's financial district, it is easier to get to LGW than to LHR. The Virgin Gatwick Express takes 30 mins to go from LGW to London Victoria (the heart of London). It takes more than an hour to do that distance by tube from LHR. _________________ I don't know which is the more pampered bunch : AI's widebodies (the aunties) or Jet's widebodies (the planes).
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Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2021 10:29 am Post subject: |
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https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news/109253-indias-vistara-eyes-london-newark-flights
Vistara eyes London-Newark flights
04.11.2021
Having secured its US Foreign Air Carrier Permit (FACP) in late August, India's Vistara (UK, Delhi Int'l) has now disclosed that it holds slots for services from Delhi Int'l via London Gatwick to New York Newark for the current winter season.
According to Airport Coordination Limited (ACL), the Indian full-service carrier has slots to operate a total of 63 flights from Gatwick to Delhi (translating to 3x weekly flights) and the same number from Gatwick to Newark during the season ending in late March 2022, with up to 299 passenger seats per departure.
The airline has yet to announce plans to serve the United States, although it said earlier that it hoped to debut the route during the current quarter.
Vistara, a 51/49 joint venture between Tata Group and Singapore Airlines Group, operates just two B787-9s with 299 seats each, the ch-aviation fleets advanced module shows. The two aircraft do not have separate crew rest areas and are currently used for services to Bangalore Int'l, Frankfurt Int'l, London Heathrow, and Paris CDG (launching on November 7, 2021). If the airline operates flights via London, it will be able to change crews in the United Kingdom and thus avoid the issue of a lack of crew-rests.
Newark is a hub for United Airlines (UA, Chicago O'Hare), which has a one-way code-share partnership with Vistara covering the latter's domestic services out of Delhi and Mumbai Int'l.
United Airlines is the second-largest player in the US-India direct air market with a 44% market share by scheduled departure capacity, the ch-aviation capacities module shows. The airline flies from Newark to both Delhi and Mumbai. Air India (AI, Mumbai Int'l) has a 52.2% share, while American Airlines (AA, Dallas/Fort Worth) is a minor competitor with a 3.8% share.
Currently, there are no flights from Gatwick to Newark. United Airlines and British Airways (BA, London Heathrow) fly to the New Jersey gateway from London Heathrow. Gatwick's services to New York JFK are operated by British Airways and JetBlue Airways (B6, New York JFK), the ch-aviation schedules module highlights. _________________ 10000 posts (and counting) on Airliners-India.
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Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2021 10:32 am Post subject: |
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Vistara has added an A320NEO to the fleet today, as VT-TYC. _________________ 10000 posts (and counting) on Airliners-India.
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Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 5:49 am Post subject: |
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Vistara has added an A320NEO to the fleet today, as VT-TYD. _________________ 10000 posts (and counting) on Airliners-India.
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The_Goat Member

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Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2021 4:49 pm Post subject: |
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Has anyone flown on Vistara lately? Heard they are a pretty crappy affair. Can someone confirm?
A German youtuber posted a video saying that he had inside sources telling him about the 'corruption' in the airline. If true, who are these corrupt people and why is the Tata group doing nothing?
And again, why do Delhi-based airlines end up getting this bad rep? _________________ I don't know which is the more pampered bunch : AI's widebodies (the aunties) or Jet's widebodies (the planes).
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iah87 Member
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Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 12:04 am Post subject: |
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The_Goat wrote: | Has anyone flown on Vistara lately? Heard they are a pretty crappy affair. Can someone confirm?
A German youtuber posted a video saying that he had inside sources telling him about the 'corruption' in the airline. If true, who are these corrupt people and why is the Tata group doing nothing?
And again, why do Delhi-based airlines end up getting this bad rep? |
I flew them on a domestic leg to BOM and had no issues with the airline. It was on time, food was ok. The premium economy is more like Economy plus in United, just more leg room, everything else the same. |
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Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2022 3:56 pm Post subject: |
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The_Goat wrote: | Has anyone flown on Vistara lately? Heard they are a pretty crappy affair. Can someone confirm?
A German youtuber posted a video saying that he had inside sources telling him about the 'corruption' in the airline. If true, who are these corrupt people and why is the Tata group doing nothing?
And again, why do Delhi-based airlines end up getting this bad rep? |
I take vloggers reviews with a pinch of salt. If a crew request them to not film something or does not smile at them, they term the whole trip and airline as a "disaster". Ends up being very entitled and brattish
I have never been a fan of vlog style trip reports, where 70-80% of the report is the person's face. |
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The_Goat Member

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Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2022 10:07 pm Post subject: |
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justbala wrote: |
I take vloggers reviews with a pinch of salt. If a crew request them to not film something or does not smile at them, they term the whole trip and airline as a "disaster". Ends up being very entitled and brattish
I have never been a fan of vlog style trip reports, where 70-80% of the report is the person's face. |
Well, this blogger actually showed pictures of scratched armrests and dirty AC vents - in an A321 that was just an year old.
Have you flown Vistara lately, Bala? What are they like? _________________ I don't know which is the more pampered bunch : AI's widebodies (the aunties) or Jet's widebodies (the planes).
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Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2022 8:18 am Post subject: |
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Vistara has withdrawn an A320, VT-TTI from the fleet today. _________________ 10000 posts (and counting) on Airliners-India.
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Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2022 6:29 am Post subject: |
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Vistara has added an A320NEO to the fleet today, as VT-TQL. _________________ 10000 posts (and counting) on Airliners-India.
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Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2022 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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Vistara mulls short-term leases due to B787 delays
27.03.2022
Vistara (UK, Delhi Int'l) is evaluating its fleet options for its planned expansion to the United States in light of the ongoing suspension of new B787 deliveries due to manufacturing issues, Chief Executive Vinod Kannan told the Business Standard daily.
"We have asked Boeing for updates. We still don't have a firm picture on that. So, we have started looking at other options on whether we should get a temporary lease of aircraft. The only drawback is the current fuel price. From a financial perspective, we are evaluating this," he said.
The full-service carrier's widebody fleet currently comprises two B787-9s, with a further four on firm order from Boeing. However, Vistara's B787s are configured for medium-haul services with reduced maximum take-off weight and no crew rest areas. They are also fully utilised on the airline's current network, flying to London Heathrow, Frankfurt Int'l, and Paris CDG. As such, the current fleet is insufficient for a planned US expansion.
Vistara intended to add more B787-9s for its North American flights. The carrier secured its foreign air carrier permit in 2021 for services via London Gatwick. However, Kannan said Vistara was now also evaluating non-stop flights.
"Even for one-stop [services], I need new aircraft because the current aircraft are being fully utilised. So, if I take a new aircraft, it is better to do it non-stop. All these things are currently under negotiations," the CEO explained.
Kannan added that Vistara is to remain an independent carrier even after its 51% shareholder Tata Sons acquired Air India. Recently, Tata Sons and minority shareholder Singapore Airlines Group injected an additional INR5 billion rupees (USD65 million) into Vistara.
"The fact is that the shareholders have been supportive. Recently, there has been an infusion of funds. What happens eventually is something that is under discussion by the shareholders. My message to the staff is very clear. We are still Vistara - an independent, separate airline. We are taking another 20 aircraft in the next two years. So, let's focus on that," he said. _________________ 10000 posts (and counting) on Airliners-India.
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Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2022 1:50 am Post subject: |
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justbala wrote: | [
I take vloggers reviews with a pinch of salt. If a crew request them to not film something or does not smile at them, they term the whole trip and airline as a "disaster". Ends up being very entitled and brattish
I have never been a fan of vlog style trip reports, where 70-80% of the report is the person's face. |
So I flew Vistara a couple of weeks ago. Both my flights were on the ex-9W 737s. The interiors have been changed to the Vistara branding. The legroom economy class is cramped, and not suitable for anything longer than one hour. The service was good and the crew were professional. They handled a difficult lady who was refusing to wear a mask with a lot of tact and patience. The planes were clean and the flights on time. The service is quite acceptable. They provided a complimentary snack which wasn't very tasty but is quite something in this day and age.
I would fly them again. They aren't much more expensive than 6E either - only a couple of hundred rupees more. _________________ I don't know which is the more pampered bunch : AI's widebodies (the aunties) or Jet's widebodies (the planes).
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Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2022 7:09 am Post subject: |
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Vistara has added an A320NEO to the fleet today, as VT-TQK. _________________ 10000 posts (and counting) on Airliners-India.
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iah87 Member
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Posted: Mon May 02, 2022 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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The_Goat wrote: | justbala wrote: | [
I take vloggers reviews with a pinch of salt. If a crew request them to not film something or does not smile at them, they term the whole trip and airline as a "disaster". Ends up being very entitled and brattish
I have never been a fan of vlog style trip reports, where 70-80% of the report is the person's face. |
So I flew Vistara a couple of weeks ago. Both my flights were on the ex-9W 737s. The interiors have been changed to the Vistara branding. The legroom economy class is cramped, and not suitable for anything longer than one hour. The service was good and the crew were professional. They handled a difficult lady who was refusing to wear a mask with a lot of tact and patience. The planes were clean and the flights on time. The service is quite acceptable. They provided a complimentary snack which wasn't very tasty but is quite something in this day and age.
I would fly them again. They aren't much more expensive than 6E either - only a couple of hundred rupees more. |
I flew their premium economy product a few months ago on a 90 minute flight. The premium economy is similar to United or Delta economy plus, just more leg room but the same width.
The snack was ok, the flight was worth it for the extra price, primarily because of the extra bag allowance which I wanted. |
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Posted: Mon May 30, 2022 7:02 am Post subject: |
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Vistara has added an A320NEO to the fleet today, as VT-TQJ. _________________ 10000 posts (and counting) on Airliners-India.
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Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2022 12:38 pm Post subject: |
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Vistara has added an A321NEO to the fleet today, as VT-TVE. _________________ 10000 posts (and counting) on Airliners-India.
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Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2022 7:58 am Post subject: |
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Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2022 8:03 am Post subject: |
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https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news/117046-indias-vistara-considers-short-term-b787-leases
Vistara considers short-term B787 leases
01.07.2022
Vistara (UK, Delhi Int'l) is scouting the market for B787s available for short-term leases to cover delays in new deliveries by Boeing (BOE, Washington National), Chief Executive Vinod Kannan told reporters during the 2022 IATA AGM in Doha.
"I would like to have [more B787s] yesterday. But the facts are that these things do take time... The last thing we want is to hurry and get stuck with an aircraft that we cannot utilise viably," he said.
He underlined that any additional aircraft would be signed only for the time until Boeing hands over Vistara's new B787-9s. The airline is in no rush and wants to make sure that whatever aircraft it sources on an interim basis will be well-suited forto its network in terms of range, payload, and efficiency.
The Indian full-service carrier - a joint venture of Tata Sons and Singapore Airlines Group - ordered six aircraft of the type from Boeing but took only two prior to last year's suspension in deliveries caused by manufacturing issues. They are currently deployed from Delhi Int'l to Frankfurt Int'l, London Heathrow, and Paris CDG, the ch-aviation schedules module shows.
Kannan underlined that Vistara ias planning to expand its international long-haul market but cannot do so without additional B787s.
"We are looking at increasing frequency. Even for London, we feel like we could do more, we are charting out a plan, but again that is dependent on when we get the aircraft," Kannan said.
Vistara does not operate any other widebody aircraft. Its fleet comprises three A320-200s, thirty-eight A320-200Ns, five A321-200NXes, and five B737-800s. Kannan told ch-aviation recently that the A320ceo and the B737s would be retired over the next 12 months. _________________ 10000 posts (and counting) on Airliners-India.
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Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2022 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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https://www.business-standard.com/article/companies/vistara-takes-dreamliner-aircraft-on-lease-to-boost-international-ops-122080600692_1.html
Vistara takes Dreamliner aircraft on lease to boost international ops
August 06, 2022
Vistara on Saturday said it has taken a Boeing 787-9 Dreamliner aircraft on lease, which will help the airline increase its number of flights to Frankfurt and Paris.
This is the first Dreamliner plane taken on lease by Vistara. The private carrier already has two Dreamliner aircraft, which were purchased from Boeing, in its fleet.
Vistara had to take the plane on lease because Boeing has not delivered four more Dreamliner planes to it for two years. The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA), the US aviation regulator, wants Boeing to make rectifications in Dreamliner's production line before restarting the deliveries.
Vistara had ordered six Dreamliner planes in 2018 but has received only two from Boeing. The second plane was delivered in August 2020. Since then, it has been waiting for the other Dreamliners to come so as to boost its international flight operations.
In a press release, Vistara said it will be increasing its number of flights to Frankfurt in Germany and Paris in France as it "gears up to receive its third Boeing 787-9 Dreamliner aircraft, which has been leased recently".
It is not clear when the plane will be delivered to the airline in India.
Meanwhile, Vistara said the additional flights to and from Frankfurt and Paris will start from October 30.
The private carrier will operate six weekly flights on the Delhi-Frankfurt route from October 30, instead of the three weekly services currently, it said.
The airline will operate five weekly flights on the Delhi-Paris route from October, instead of its two weekly flights currently. _________________ 10000 posts (and counting) on Airliners-India.
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