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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 5:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alliance Air has added a new ATR72-600 to the fleet today, as VT-RKM.
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Air India has added a new A320NEO to the fleet today, as VT-EXQ.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 1:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Air India crew will now say Jai Hind after every flight announcement

https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/air-india-jai-hind-flight-announcement-1470303-2019-03-04

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Air India crew will have to say "Jai Hind" after every flight announcement "with much fervour", said an official advisory of the national carrier on Monday.
"With immediate effect, all (crew) are required to announce 'Jai Hind' at the end of every announcement after a slight pause and much fervour," stated the advisory issued by Amitabh Singh, Director Operations, Air India.
The advisory has been marked to all crew members of the cash-strapped carrier.

During his first stint as Air India's Chairman and Managing Director, Ashwani Lohani had issued a similar direction to pilots in May 2016.
According to officials, the current advisory is a "reminder" to the staff, in line with the "mood of the nation".
"The captain of a flight should often connect with passengers during the journey and, at the end of first address, using the words 'Jai Hind' would make a tremendous impact," Lohani said in a communication to his staff in May 2016.

Besides, Lohani in his communication had also asked the staff to be "courteous and polite" to passengers and said wearing a smile would be a "good thing".
Lohani had said, "The cabin crew should greet the passengers while emplaning and deplaning with a 'namaskar' as was the tradition. A smile on the face and conversing sweetly and politely without an iota of irritation would be a good thing."
Last month, the central government called back retired technocrat Lohani to head the carrier as chairman and managing director for a second time within two years.
His first tenure as Air India chief was from August 2015 to August 2017. Lohani was appointed Railway Board chairman in August 2017 and retired in December 2018.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 2:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Air India crew will now say Jai Hind after every flight announcement

https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/air-india-jai-hind-flight-announcement-1470303-2019-03-04

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Air India crew will have to say "Jai Hind" after every flight announcement "with much fervour", said an official advisory of the national carrier on Monday.
"With immediate effect, all (crew) are required to announce 'Jai Hind' at the end of every announcement after a slight pause and much fervour," stated the advisory issued by Amitabh Singh, Director Operations, Air India.
The advisory has been marked to all crew members of the cash-strapped carrier.

During his first stint as Air India's Chairman and Managing Director, Ashwani Lohani had issued a similar direction to pilots in May 2016.
According to officials, the current advisory is a "reminder" to the staff, in line with the "mood of the nation".
"The captain of a flight should often connect with passengers during the journey and, at the end of first address, using the words 'Jai Hind' would make a tremendous impact," Lohani said in a communication to his staff in May 2016.

Besides, Lohani in his communication had also asked the staff to be "courteous and polite" to passengers and said wearing a smile would be a "good thing".
Lohani had said, "The cabin crew should greet the passengers while emplaning and deplaning with a 'namaskar' as was the tradition. A smile on the face and conversing sweetly and politely without an iota of irritation would be a good thing."
Last month, the central government called back retired technocrat Lohani to head the carrier as chairman and managing director for a second time within two years.
His first tenure as Air India chief was from August 2015 to August 2017. Lohani was appointed Railway Board chairman in August 2017 and retired in December 2018.


The IFE isn't working, Jai Hind.
There are bedbugs in the J Class seats, Jai Hind.
The toilets are all clogged, do not use. Jai Hind.
The engines have flamed out, and we are going to crash, Jai Hind.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 11:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Air India Express expands Kannur international network from April 2019

Air India Express in April 2019 plans to offer 2 new international routes from Kannur, including flights to Bahrain and Muscat.
Planned operation as follows.

Kannur – Bahrain
eff 01APR19 2 weekly 737-800
IX789 CNN0710 – 0910BAH 738 6
IX789 CNN0810 – 1010BAH 738 1

IX790 BAH1010 – 1910CNN 738 6
IX790 BAH1110 – 2010CNN 738 1

Kannur – Muscat
eff 01APR19 3 weekly 737-800
IX713 CNN1845 – 2100MCT 738 146
IX714 MCT2200 – 0315+1CNN 738 146


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 5:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.business-standard.com/article/pti-stories/air-india-to-suspend-delhi-madrid-delhi-birmingham-flights-from-mar-16-119031301128_1.html

Air India to suspend Delhi-Madrid, Delhi-Birmingham flights from Mar 16

March 13, 2019

Air India Wednesday announced that it is suspending its flights on Delhi-Madrid and Delhi-Birmingham routes from March 16 till further notice due to "operational reasons".

As Pakistan has kept its airspace closed since February 26 due to the Balakot air strike by Indian air force, Air India's expenditure on flights to Europe and the US have significantly increased.

In a tweet, the national carrier said, "Due to operational reasons, the following Air India flights are suspended with effect from March 16, 2019, till further notice."

The airline then said that AI135 Delhi-Madrid flight and AI136 Madrid-Delhi flight would be suspended.

It added that AI113 Delhi-Birmingham flight and AI114 Birmingham-Delhi flight would also be suspended.

The airline said that AI117 Delhi-Amritsar-Birmingham flight and AI118 Birmingham-Amritsar-Delhi flight would be suspended too.

"We sincerely regret the inconvenience caused to our valued passengers and request passengers to collect full refund," the airline said.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 7:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/business/india-business/air-india-to-combine-mumbai-jfk-with-newark-direct-till-may-31/articleshow/68414783.cms

Air India to combine Mumbai-JFK with Newark direct till May 31

Mar 14, 2019

Air India will club its Mumbai-New York (JFK) with Mumbai-Newark (EWR) nonstop from Saturday (March 16) to May 31, 2019. The combined Mumbai-EWR flight will operate as AI 191 at 1.30 am, reaching Newark at 8.15 am. The combined EWR-Mumbai will operate as AI 144 and leave EWR at 2.15 pm to reach India at 2.10 pm (next day), all times local.

This is part of the route rationalisation and restructuring AI has been doing since Wednesday due to operational reasons caused by the closure of Pakistan airspace due to which it has to take longer routes from Delhi to the west. Longer flying time means carrying more crew members, constraining the number of flights it can operate. The airline is also facing a shortage of aircraft also with over 23 of them awaiting spares and engines.

AI had on Wednesday announced temporarily suspending its popular Delhi-Madrid-Delhi, Delhi-Birmingham-Delhi and Delhi-Amritsar-Birmingham flights from this Saturday “due to operational reasons till further notice”. The airline has done so due a mix of reasons like crew shortage caused by west-bound flights taking longer route after Pakistan airspace closure and hence they need to fly with more crew members.

“We sincerely regret the inconvenience caused to our valued passengers and request passengers to to collect full refund,” AI had said in the Wednesday update. The flights that have been suspended from March 16 are AI 135 and 136 (Delhi-Madrid-Delhi); AI 113 and 114 (Delhi-Birmingham-Delhi) and AI 117 and 118 (Delhi-Amritsar-Birmingham-Amritsar-Delhi).

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/business/india-business/air-india-to-combine-mumbai-jfk-with-newark-direct-till-may-31/articleshow/68414783.cms

Air India to combine Mumbai-JFK with Newark direct till May 31

Mar 14, 2019

Air India will club its Mumbai-New York (JFK) with Mumbai-Newark (EWR) nonstop from Saturday (March 16) to May 31, 2019. The combined Mumbai-EWR flight will operate as AI 191 at 1.30 am, reaching Newark at 8.15 am. The combined EWR-Mumbai will operate as AI 144 and leave EWR at 2.15 pm to reach India at 2.10 pm (next day), all times local.

This is part of the route rationalisation and restructuring AI has been doing since Wednesday due to operational reasons caused by the closure of Pakistan airspace due to which it has to take longer routes from Delhi to the west. Longer flying time means carrying more crew members, constraining the number of flights it can operate. The airline is also facing a shortage of aircraft also with over 23 of them awaiting spares and engines.

AI had on Wednesday announced temporarily suspending its popular Delhi-Madrid-Delhi, Delhi-Birmingham-Delhi and Delhi-Amritsar-Birmingham flights from this Saturday “due to operational reasons till further notice”. The airline has done so due a mix of reasons like crew shortage caused by west-bound flights taking longer route after Pakistan airspace closure and hence they need to fly with more crew members.

“We sincerely regret the inconvenience caused to our valued passengers and request passengers to to collect full refund,” AI had said in the Wednesday update. The flights that have been suspended from March 16 are AI 135 and 136 (Delhi-Madrid-Delhi); AI 113 and 114 (Delhi-Birmingham-Delhi) and AI 117 and 118 (Delhi-Amritsar-Birmingham-Amritsar-Delhi).


What does this mean? That the BOM-JFK flight isn't operating until May 31?
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Air India adjusts Mumbai – New York service Mar – May 2019

Air India since yesterday (16MAR19) temporary suspended Mumbai – New York JFK nonstop service, previously served 3 times a week, on board Boeing 777-300ER.
The service is scheduled to resume on 02JUN19. During this period, the airline will continue to operate Mumbai – Newark service on daily basis, with Boeing 777-300ER.

AI191 BOM0130 – 0755EWR 77W D
AI144 EWR1205 – 1220+1BOM 77W D


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The airline said it currently has over twenty-three aircraft grounded and awaiting repairs. According to the ch-aviation fleets module, this number includes six B787-8s used by the carrier on routes to Madrid and Birmingham.

https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news/76301-air-india-drops-madrid-birmingham-ops-due-to-pak-conflict
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Air India worst-hit by closure of Pakistan airspace, loses over Rs 60 crore

https://www.indiatoday.in/business/story/air-india-worst-hit-by-closure-of-pakistan-airspace-loses-over-rs-60-crore-1481460-2019-03-19
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Closure of Pakistan's airspace has not only affected hundreds of passengers across the globe but also several airlines around the globe.

Reports suggest that Air India has been affected more than any other airline due to the closure of Pakistan airspace, with a loss of more than Rs 60 crore as of March 16.

Pakistan announced general closure of its airspace on February 27, the next day after Indian Air Force (IAF) carried out an airstrike targeting a Jaish-e-Mohammed (JeM) terror camp in Balakot.

Flights of several airlines around the world have been either re-routed or cancelled, with as many as 400 flights being affected on a daily basis. Out of all the airlines, Air India is one of the worst-hit airlines.

Air India flies 66 weekly services to Europe and 33 to the US, reports said. Since the routes mostly fly through Pakistani airspace, majority of these flights had to be either cancelled or diverted.

Air India flights travelling west can no longer fly over Pakistan's airspace and need to swing south across Gujarat and then cut across the Arabian sea to reach their destinations in Europe and North America.

The most problematic flights for Air India are flights between India and the US east coast - Washington, New York, Newark and Chicago.

This has resulted in Air India, an airline which was already surviving on government bailouts, to incur heavy revenue losses, a spokesperson said.

Other airlines such as private carriers SpiceJet and Jet Airways have also been affected as they to cancel their flight between Delhi and Kabul.

On Tuesday, the Directorate General of Civil Aviation (DGCA) dismissed reports saying the Indian aviation regulator had called on all airlines to discuss airfare hike due to the cancellations and Pakistani airspace closure
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Air India Copenhagen inventory changes from May 2019

Air India from May 2019 is adjusting operational frequency for Delhi – Copenhagen service, as the airline closed reservations for service on Fridays, for travel on/after 03MAY19. This would see the airline operating this route 3 times a week, instead of 4.

Boeing 787-8 aircraft operates this route.

AI157 DEL1430 – 1845CPH 788 246
AI158 CPH2040 – 0735+1DEL 788 246


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 5:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Air India 2Q19 Birmingham / Madrid inventory changes as of 24MAR19

Air India in the last few days filed additional changes to its inventory for service to Birmingham and Madrid, for summer 2019 season.

Delhi – Amritsar – Birmingham
Reservation for 3 weekly service closed until 30JUN19

Delhi – Birmingham
Reservation for 3 weekly service closed until 30APR19

Delhi – Madrid
Reservation for 3 weekly service closed until 30JUN19


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https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/air-india-to-serve-curd-rice-in-place-of-salads-on-summer-flights-to-us/story-857rPg8HxXJHBCYiEyL80I.html

Curd-rice, jal jeera, mithai in Air India’s menu makeover

Mar 27, 2019

Curd-rice in place of green salad in the summers on flights to the US; round-the-clock coffee for business class passengers; sweets from renowned Indian confectioners; and traditional welcome drinks such as Aam Panna and Jaljeera in place of sweet fruit juices -- Air India is giving a complete makeover to the menu it serves passengers on its international flights starting on April 1.

The national airline has also decided to avoid fried foods and will replace them with Upma or Poha with tea, three Air India officials familiar with the plan said. The changes are being made keeping in mind both the health aspect and adding a traditional Indian touch to the menu .

“Our focus will be on better quality, taste, presentation and choice. Fried items will be avoided and changes will be applicable to breakfast, lunch/ dinner, high tea and welcome drinks,” said a senior Air India official, citing an internal note circulated within the airline. He asked not to be identified.

Air India, which spends around Rs 800 crore on catering services per year, has been experimenting with the menu for about two years. Initially, the airline stopped serving non-vegetarian food on domestic routes (to save cost), then started calling passengers to find out their food preferences in advance to avoid wastages. More recently, the airline started carrying food from India to long-haul destinations, in the process inviting criticism that it was compromising on quality and freshness to save costs.

“In welcome drinks, passengers can look forward to summer refreshers such as Aam Panna, Jaljeera, Masala Lassi and butter milk instead of the sweetened juices. Similarly in breakfast, sliced fruits are to be replaced with chilled flavoured yoghurt and bread roll are to be replaced with croissants. Also, instead of plain soft rolls, passengers will be served focaccia rolls and masala bread,” said a second airline official.

For lunch/dinner, the airline will serve two courses instead of three and salad will be replaced by mint green and ginger tomato chutneys. With high tea, instead of fried, packed food items, the airline will serve pao bhaji, cutlets/puffs, ragda pattice, vegetable upma or vegetable poha.

In some domestic flights, the airline has already introduced changes to the menu. On international flights, the changes will take effect on April 1.

First and business class passengers on long haul flights will also have a choice of chutneys and home-made pickles with their meals. Air India hasn’t forgotten desserts in the revised menu. High-quality sweets either prepared in house or procured from renowned sweet shops will be on offer.

“Curd-rice is actually light on the stomach and can help {passengers} stay comfortable during long flights. Drinks like Aam Panna and buttermilk or fresh juices are always a healthier substitute to tinned or packaged juices that are usually high on added sugar. It sounds like a healthier meal plan,” says Ruhee Sagar, Delhi-based nutritionist.

In August 2017, the airline stopped serving non-vegetarian food for economy class passengers aboard Air India’s domestic flights to save money and avoid wastage. It later decided to restrict the menu for business and first class passengers, too. The airline earlier used to offer six menus to business and first class passengers which it cut down to demand-based.

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747-237 wrote:
https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/air-india-to-serve-curd-rice-in-place-of-salads-on-summer-flights-to-us/story-857rPg8HxXJHBCYiEyL80I.html

Curd-rice, jal jeera, mithai in Air India’s menu makeover

Mar 27, 2019

Curd-rice in place of green salad in the summers on flights to the US; round-the-clock coffee for business class passengers; sweets from renowned Indian confectioners; and traditional welcome drinks such as Aam Panna and Jaljeera in place of sweet fruit juices -- Air India is giving a complete makeover to the menu it serves passengers on its international flights starting on April 1.

The national airline has also decided to avoid fried foods and will replace them with Upma or Poha with tea, three Air India officials familiar with the plan said. The changes are being made keeping in mind both the health aspect and adding a traditional Indian touch to the menu .

“Our focus will be on better quality, taste, presentation and choice. Fried items will be avoided and changes will be applicable to breakfast, lunch/ dinner, high tea and welcome drinks,” said a senior Air India official, citing an internal note circulated within the airline. He asked not to be identified.

Air India, which spends around Rs 800 crore on catering services per year, has been experimenting with the menu for about two years. Initially, the airline stopped serving non-vegetarian food on domestic routes (to save cost), then started calling passengers to find out their food preferences in advance to avoid wastages. More recently, the airline started carrying food from India to long-haul destinations, in the process inviting criticism that it was compromising on quality and freshness to save costs.

“In welcome drinks, passengers can look forward to summer refreshers such as Aam Panna, Jaljeera, Masala Lassi and butter milk instead of the sweetened juices. Similarly in breakfast, sliced fruits are to be replaced with chilled flavoured yoghurt and bread roll are to be replaced with croissants. Also, instead of plain soft rolls, passengers will be served focaccia rolls and masala bread,” said a second airline official.

For lunch/dinner, the airline will serve two courses instead of three and salad will be replaced by mint green and ginger tomato chutneys. With high tea, instead of fried, packed food items, the airline will serve pao bhaji, cutlets/puffs, ragda pattice, vegetable upma or vegetable poha.

In some domestic flights, the airline has already introduced changes to the menu. On international flights, the changes will take effect on April 1.

First and business class passengers on long haul flights will also have a choice of chutneys and home-made pickles with their meals. Air India hasn’t forgotten desserts in the revised menu. High-quality sweets either prepared in house or procured from renowned sweet shops will be on offer.

“Curd-rice is actually light on the stomach and can help {passengers} stay comfortable during long flights. Drinks like Aam Panna and buttermilk or fresh juices are always a healthier substitute to tinned or packaged juices that are usually high on added sugar. It sounds like a healthier meal plan,” says Ruhee Sagar, Delhi-based nutritionist.

In August 2017, the airline stopped serving non-vegetarian food for economy class passengers aboard Air India’s domestic flights to save money and avoid wastage. It later decided to restrict the menu for business and first class passengers, too. The airline earlier used to offer six menus to business and first class passengers which it cut down to demand-based.


Meanwhile other airlines offer champagne as a welcome drink for J Class pax. Don't get me wrong, I love Jal Jeera, but not everyone does.
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Meanwhile other airlines offer champagne as a welcome drink for J Class pax. Don't get me wrong, I love Jal Jeera, but not everyone does.


I don't think they said they'll serve ONLY Jal Jeera.
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Meanwhile other airlines offer champagne as a welcome drink for J Class pax. Don't get me wrong, I love Jal Jeera, but not everyone does.


I don't think they said they'll serve ONLY Jal Jeera.


Right now all they serve are fruit juices and water.

If they're getting rid of those fruit juices, what's left?
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binaiks wrote:
Jaysit wrote:

Meanwhile other airlines offer champagne as a welcome drink for J Class pax. Don't get me wrong, I love Jal Jeera, but not everyone does.


I don't think they said they'll serve ONLY Jal Jeera.


Right now all they serve are fruit juices and water.

If they're getting rid of those fruit juices, what's left?


Aam Panna, Jaljeera, Masala Lassi and butter milk instead of the sweetened juices
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Air India's first 707-300 VT-DPM "Makalu" seen relatively intact as on 10 Feb 2019 at Davis Monthan AFB.



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The cost savings by switching to all vegetarian is marginal, however AI can save money by giving only light snacks and a drink on flights 2 hours or less and may be introduce buy on board also.

And I don't know if pav bhaji is any better than fried food, health wise. Fried food lasts longer whereas pav bhaji will not.
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I actually like these offerings on a flight. They are way more healthier than the sugar and artificial colour laced fruit juices.

On international flights, they should stick to these offerings as well as western choices like juices and champagne.
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Air India has added a new A320NEO to the fleet today, as VT-EXS.
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Air India S19 Copenhagen inventory changes as of 28MAR19

Air India in this week’s inventory update filed additional changes to Delhi – Copenhagen route, from 03MAY19, Fridays service is once again opened for reservation.
The Star Alliance carrier last week closed Fridays booking from 03MAY19 to 26OCT19, which would see the airline operating 3 weekly flights, instead of 4.

AI157 DEL1430 – 1845CPH 788 x137
AI158 CPH2040 – 0735+1DEL 788 5
AI158 CPH2045 – 0735+1DEL 788 246



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Air India's first 707-300 VT-DPM "Makalu" seen relatively intact as on 10 Feb 2019 at Davis Monthan AFB.
747-237: please tell us more about this one. `Makalu' is the somewhat maligned plane which was subject to the sabotage threat, before PM Indira Gandhi was supposed to undergo a foreign trip. To see this beauty relatively intact is a delight. Given AI's stellar maintenance record of that era, this bird will possibly still be in good shape for spares, for the large number of B707 military variants still flying. Please share more information about `Makalu', if not here, on email, or a PM.
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Air India's first 707-300 VT-DPM "Makalu" seen relatively intact as on 10 Feb 2019 at Davis Monthan AFB.
747-237: please tell us more about this one. `Makalu' is the somewhat maligned plane which was subject to the sabotage threat, before PM Indira Gandhi was supposed to undergo a foreign trip. To see this beauty relatively intact is a delight. Given AI's stellar maintenance record of that era, this bird will possibly still be in good shape for spares, for the large number of B707 military variants still flying. Please share more information about `Makalu', if not here, on email, or a PM.
Cheers, Sumantra.


Sumantra; "Makalu" was (eventually) bought by the USAF for use in their KC-135 program (just as "Shahjehan" was the test bed for the YAL-1 Airborne Laser program). VT-DPM seems to have been used primarily for spares, (unlike "Shahjehan", that was cut up and nose section used for the program). And you're correct in the sabotage conspiracy that involved "Makalu".

Given that the IAF's ELINT 707s were delivered to AI after Makalu was, VT-DPM might well be Air India's longest surviving airframe. For me, it puts things in perspective to know that my Dad flew her half a century ago...and she's still sitting in the desert sun, her Air India colors still visible. A lot of Air India old timers (cockpit & cabin crew) that served aboard her, were pleasantly surprised to see "Makalu" still (relatively) intact.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 12:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Sumantra; "Makalu" was (eventually) bought by the USAF for use in their KC-135 program (just as "Shahjehan" was the test bed for the YAL-1 Airborne Laser program). VT-DPM seems to have been used primarily for spares, (unlike "Shahjehan", that was cut up and nose section used for the program).
Thanks you for confirming my suspicions, about the KC-135. It is actually very nice to see these frames still flying in some form or the other. I saw one take off at KOA on 11 Jan this year, and was as awestruck as I always have been, on seeing the B707 variants flying, over the ages. The drogue ariel is such a distinctive feature, and the new CFM-56 engines look brilliant.

Thank you for the information about `Shahjehan': I did not know about this. You are a storehouse of great information.

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Given that the IAF's ELINT 707s were delivered to AI after Makalu was, VT-DPM might well be Air India's longest surviving airframe. For me, it puts things in perspective to know that my Dad flew her half a century ago...and she's still sitting in the desert sun, her Air India colors still visible. A lot of Air India old timers (cockpit & cabin crew) that served aboard her, were pleasantly surprised to see "Makalu" still (relatively) intact.
Frankly, it brings about a great amount of joy to me as well. No, I have never flown on "Makalu", or been associated with Air India (though Papa may have flown her as a passenger), but the joy it brings on seeing the frame relatively intact is not something that words alone can describe.

Cheers, Sumantra.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 10:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Air India resumes Delhi – Birmingham nonstop service in late-March 2019

Air India yesterday (31MAR19) resumed Delhi – Birmingham nonstop service, after the airline last week re-opened reservation for this route from 31MAR19 to 30APR19.
This route is served by Boeing 787-8 aircraft, 3 times a week.

AI113 DEL1230 – 1830BHX 788 137
AI114 BHX2045 – 1030+1DEL 788 137

Delhi – Amritsar – Birmingham service is scheduled to resume on 02JUL19.


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AI to allow only 1 free check-in baggage on its Newark flight

Apr 2, 2019

Air India has reduced by half it’s free check-in bag allowance on its Mumbai-Newark economy class tickets booked from April 1 onwards. The check-in bag allowance reduction will also apply on flights from Mumbai that go beyond Newark to interior destinations in the US and Canada.

“Because of obstructions along the take-off path of Mumbai runway 27, we had to reduce the weight of the aircraft so that it could climb out safely. We did that by flying empty seats. Now we’ve decided to reduce baggage allowance instead and cut losses,” said an AI official.

Currently, Air India allows its economy class passengers two check-in bags not weighing more than 23kg each on flights to Newark/beyond and back. Under the revised policy, only one check-in bag, weighing not more than 23kg, will be allowed for free, said a note issued last week by AI’s sales department. AI spokesperson was not available for comment. Passengers with a second check-in bag would need to pay a fee of $50. Those whose first check-in bag weigh more than 23kg (but less than 32kg) would also be charged $50 extra.

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Fail to understand why the BMC or AAI does not remove those hoardings.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

747-237 wrote:
Air India resumes Delhi – Birmingham nonstop service in late-March 2019

Air India yesterday (31MAR19) resumed Delhi – Birmingham nonstop service, after the airline last week re-opened reservation for this route from 31MAR19 to 30APR19.
This route is served by Boeing 787-8 aircraft, 3 times a week.

AI113 DEL1230 – 1830BHX 788 137
AI114 BHX2045 – 1030+1DEL 788 137

Delhi – Amritsar – Birmingham service is scheduled to resume on 02JUL19.


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So they opened it for a month? For easter? And then it shuts down until July?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Air India 1H19 Singapore service adjustment

Air India in the first-half of 2019 is adjusting service to Singapore, already in effect since February 2019.
Planned service changes is scheduled until late-April 2019.

Chennai – Singapore 07FEB19 – 01MAY19 A321 replaces 787-8, 1 daily
Delhi – Singapore 18MAR19 – 30APR19 Reduce from 2 to 1 daily
Mumbai – Singapore 06FEB19 – 30APR19 A321 reduces 787-8, 1 daily


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Air India 1H19 Singapore service adjustment

Air India in the first-half of 2019 is adjusting service to Singapore, already in effect since February 2019.
Planned service changes is scheduled until late-April 2019.

Chennai – Singapore 07FEB19 – 01MAY19 A321 replaces 787-8, 1 daily
Delhi – Singapore 18MAR19 – 30APR19 Reduce from 2 to 1 daily
Mumbai – Singapore 06FEB19 – 30APR19 A321 reduces 787-8, 1 daily


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So Jet cuts service to SIN from India and so does AI???? Why wouldn’t they deploy more aircraft on routes during this period (domestic and international).
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747-237 wrote:
Air India 1H19 Singapore service adjustment

Air India in the first-half of 2019 is adjusting service to Singapore, already in effect since February 2019.
Planned service changes is scheduled until late-April 2019.

Chennai – Singapore 07FEB19 – 01MAY19 A321 replaces 787-8, 1 daily
Delhi – Singapore 18MAR19 – 30APR19 Reduce from 2 to 1 daily
Mumbai – Singapore 06FEB19 – 30APR19 A321 reduces 787-8, 1 daily


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So Jet cuts service to SIN from India and so does AI???? Why wouldn’t they deploy more aircraft on routes during this period (domestic and international).


Yes it baffles me too. Now is the time for AI to cash in. Look out for some budget airline or even SQ to introduce 380's to DEL and may be increase service to BOM.
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https://airlinegeeks.com/2019/04/08/united-air-india-continue-to-market-flights-from-india-as-nonstop-despite-fuel-stops-en-route/

United, Air India Marketing New Delhi Flights as Nonstop Despite Fuel Stops En Route

April 8, 2019

With Pakistan restricting access to its airspace, airlines operating in the region have been forced to take indirect flight paths to get to their destinations. While this may mean an extra hour or so flying time and a brief delay for some, it means fuel stops for those flying the ultra-long-haul routes from India to North America.

United Airlines, Air Canada and Air India, the only carriers flying between North America and India, have all been forced to factor in fuel stops to their daily services in the westbound direction from New Delhi. Despite knowing that their aircraft will need to make the stop, however, two airlines have been continuing to market their flights as nonstop, potentially misleading customers.

As the only U.S.-based carrier to serve the subcontinent, United Airlines flies between New Delhi and Newark with a daily flight on its Boeing 777-200 aircraft. While the outbound flight from Newark to India’s capital is able to fly nonstop without difficulty as the flight is blocked at around 14 hours, the return flight is almost two hours longer, at the upper limits of the aircraft’s range.

Since the restrictions were imposed by India’s neighbor to the west, United flights departing from New Delhi en route to Newark have had to make stops in Germany for fuel and to change crew. United chose the cities of Munich and Frankfurt for the stop, cities which already see United service and are hubs for fellow Star Alliance member Lufthansa. Once on the ground, the aircraft are refueled and recrewed before heading back to the skies for the remainder of the journey.

However, despite knowing that its aircraft will be forced to make a stop should Pakistan’s airspace be closed, United continued to sell its flights as from New Delhi to Newark as nonstop and as the same duration. Once booked, however, passengers received the notification that the aircraft would need to make a stop in Germany due to the airspace issues.

Passengers onboard United flights described their experiences with the airline when traveling from New Delhi to Newark and the confusion that ensued as a result. One passenger told AirlineGeeks that he received a notification that his flight had been canceled, only to call and have United tell him that the flight was still going and even the phone agent was unaware of the fuel stop in Frankfurt. The passenger, who flew home two weeks following the airspace closure, described how nobody at United could accurately tell the passengers what was going on. The resulting trip took around 20 hours.

AirlineGeeks reached out to United, who said that the reasoning behind flights still being sold as nonstop instead of with the fuel stop is that the situation with Pakistan is “fluid” and that the airspace can reopen at a moment’s notice. According to the airline, the flights could and would go nonstop should the airspace open back up before departure. Marketing the flight as with a stop would be conceding before its officially known whether the stop would have to be made.

Indian national carrier Air India, which serves numerous cities in the United States from major cities in India, was one of the worst affected by the closure of Pakistan’s airspace to foreign carriers. Currently flying from New Delhi to New York, Chicago and Washington with its Boeing 777-300ER aircraft, Air India has seen all of its flights from its capital city needing to make a stop in Europe along the way at an incredible financial cost to the airline.

The city of choice for the Chicago and New York flights’ fuel stops has been Vienna, Austria, home to fellow Star Alliance member Austrian Airlines, while Washington flights have been routed through Air India’s secondary hub in Mumbai, a coastal Indian city within range of the U.S. East Coast with the carrier’s Boeing 777-300ERs.

Although Air India has had to make these stops for the same reason as United, the already-struggling carrier’s approach has been drastically different. Instead of marketing the flights with the fuel stop in Vienna or Mumbai, the carrier has simply increased the time of the flight from its standard flight times of 15-16 hours, depending on destination, to over 20 hours to account for the additional time needed to make the stop.

As seen on the carrier’s website, AI101 from New Delhi to New York on April 8 is marketed as nonstop yet is blocked by the airline at 21 hours; whereas the typical flight time for the flight is just over 15 hours. If the new duration sold by Air India had any basis in reality for a nonstop flight, it would be not only the longest flight in the world but would make Boeing, the manufacturer of the 777-300ER, blush as it would surpass all known limits of the aircraft.

While the flights are rarely taking the entirety of their allotted 21-hour durations, marketing a flight as taking that long while also not including the fuel stop is highly suspect from a consumer standpoint. While still continuing to service the U.S. around Pakistani airspace, the carrier has also restricted baggage allowances to reduce fuel compensation and the estimated $1 million lost from each route while the airspace restrictions are in place.

Both United and Air India, however, have conceded on their respective websites that the aircraft will have to make a stop. Air India informs passengers on its flight status page that flights to New York and Chicago will make a stop in Vienna and flights to Washington will make a stop in Mumbai until April 30, when hopefully the airspace situation is resolved, and United states on its website that the flights may make a stop for fuel in Germany.

In this scenario, however, it’s up to the passenger to find out whether or not the flights will incur a stop as the airlines clearly aren’t being proactive in providing this information. So why haven’t the airlines informed passengers of this on their booking pages? Competitive advantage, amongst others.

As the only airlines flying nonstop between the U.S. and India, before the airspace closure, United and Air India have an advantage over other carriers. If flying United nonstop saves a traveler 4 hours over British Airways through London, even if British Airways, United will likely win over the traveler whose time is valuable and the same goes for Air India. However, by conceding that the flights will need to make a fuel stop on their booking pages, especially when a situation is as unpredictable as this one is, both airlines are giving up that competitive edge.

Despite the fluidity of the situation, however, the fact remains that both Air India and United Airlines are potentially misleading customers by selling the flights as nonstop when a stop is nearly guaranteed as long as Pakistani airspace remains closed. The question then becomes, is this a bait and switch?

A spokesperson for the U.S. Department of Transportation (DOT), the main regulatory agency for U.S. aviation, told AirlineGeeks, “When a carrier has a reasonable expectation that a fuel stop is likely to be required for a given route, but nevertheless advertises the route as ‘nonstop’ without adequate notice to the consumer regarding the likelihood of a fuel stop, DOT’s Aviation Enforcement Office considers the practice to be unfair or deceptive.“ Are United and Air India meeting this criterion? The answer isn’t as cut and dry as you’d think.

While United and Air India are advertising their flights as nonstop, which they would be if they were able to fly the direct routings, they are technically not violating DOT rules as they are making it known to passengers on their websites that the flights will be making a stop. It’s listed in black and white that stops will or may be made, if the passenger knows where to look.

Though the DOT may say the website warnings suffice as advance notice, the complaint comes from passengers who claim that true advance notice was not provided and they only found out about the stops while at the airport or less than a day before their flights, too late to do anything about it. After all, not all can be expected to be abreast of geopolitics when traveling and not everybody checks the notices page when booking a flight.

The DOT declined to comment on these specific cases, stating that each complaint is handled on a case-by-case basis to determine whether an airline took the necessary precautions in these situations, but encouraged passengers who felt wronged to file a complaint on the department’s website. In cases like these, however, it’s unlikely that a regulatory body would rule against the airline.

As a result, the flight delays for the flights stacked up and it was joked among aviation news reporters that passengers should show up late for their flight as it was nearly guaranteed the flight was going to be delayed as long as the aircraft was used. Passengers on those flights who applied for compensation under European Commission Regulation 261/2004, which dictates the circumstances under which airlines must compensate delayed passengers, were denied as the delays were out of the airline’s control, despite their length.

It’s likely that in this scenario, passengers will even be turned down by the airlines for delay compensation as the airline had no other option to make the stop. As with weather or air traffic control delays, airlines are not at fault when circumstances out of their control cause a delay.

As a result of the continuing restrictions on Pakistani airspace, United canceled its flights to India for a two-week period starting in early April, offering to rebook affected passengers on other carriers. While the flights could’ve continued, the indirect routings, fuel stops and crew changes likely made flying to India while Pakistani airspace remained closed unprofitable. Air India continues to fly its U.S. routes.

Air Canada, on the other hand, had a more eloquent solution. The carrier operates two routes from New Delhi, one to Toronto and one to Vancouver, both operated by its Boeing 787-9 Dreamliner. Flights to Vancouver fly in the opposite direction as the Toronto flights, avoiding Pakistani airspace entirely, so Air Canada decided to route its flights to Toronto via Vancouver and sell the flights as New Delhi-Vancouver-Toronto.

By flying directly to Canada on an existing route, Air Canada was able to sell tickets on the New Delhi-Vancouver leg, in addition to its existing New Delhi-Vancouver flight and refuel and recrew its aircraft in an existing Air Canada hub on Canadian soil. United possibly could’ve done the same using its San Francisco hub, but would’ve still given up the right to sell its flights as nonstop.

Once Pakistan begins to allow foreign aircraft to pass through its airspace, operations from all three airlines will go back to normal. Until then, however, travelers heading from India to the U.S. can expect delays, cancellations and, with almost certainly, fuel stops.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't see a big deal in marketing as non stop as it is non stop in one direction, but a fuel stop in the other and that also may not be for long. I think Pakistan will close the airspace until the Indian elections are over and after that will reopen. Also curious now if DEL-SFO flights and all flights from BOM are now nonstop then ?

In addition UA from BOM also makes a fuel stop since it does not normally go through Iran while AI is non stop from BOM, an advantage to AI which I hope they take advantage of.
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Slow news day if they're making a fuss about these nonstops being forced to make a stop because of political considerations.

In any case, once the elections are done, both governments will negotiate in private, thump their chests in public, Pak airspace will be reopened, and all will be back to normal.
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https://www.livemint.com/companies/news/air-india-to-resume-delhi-madrid-flight-from-april-18-1555332097068.html

Air India to resume Delhi-Madrid flight from April 18

15 Apr 2019

Air India is set to resume its flight services to Madrid from New Delhi from April 18, the airline said Monday.

The airline had temporarily suspended services to Madrid along with Birmingham from New Delhi last month following the closure of the Pakistani airspace for all West-bound flights to and from India.

The national carrier operates three times-a-week flight services to the Spanish capital from New Delhi.

"Air India is set to resume its thrice-a-week service on the Delhi-Madrid-Delhi sector from April 18, after a brief interlude to cater to the consistent heavy demand from passengers both in Spain and India," the airline said in a statement.

The New Delhi-Madrid route is serviced by India's flagship aircraft Boeing 787-800.

Air India has also announced return fares, starting from Euro 487, for travel on Madrid-Delhi-Madrid sector.

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https://www.ndtv.com/business/jet-airways-crisis-air-india-keen-on-taking-5-grounded-jet-airways-boeing-planes-report-2024969

Air India Keen On Taking 5 Grounded Jet Airways Boeing Planes: Report

April 18, 2019

Air India wants to take 4-5 wide-body Boeing 777 aircraft of the now-grounded Jet Airways and may hold discussions for it with the airline's lead lender State Bank of India (SBI).
The move is aimed at catering the peak demand on various international routes such as India-Gulf and India-UK.

Jet Airways has 10 Boeing 777 in its fleet which it used to serve various popular destinations in Europe and North America before halting the entire international operations.

"Air India has expressed its interest to take some of the B777s on lease. The initial proposal is there," an industry source told IANS.

A SBI spokesperson could not be reached for comment on the development.

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Air India adds Mumbai – Colombo service from May 2019

Air India from May 2019 is adding new service to Sri Lanka, where it plans to launch Mumbai – Colombo route.
Operated by Airbus A321 aircraft, this route will be served 5 times a week, from 01MAY19.

AI275 BOM2300 – 0130+1CMB 32B x47
AI276 CMB0230 – 0455BOM 32B x15


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https://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Coimbatore/alliance-air-to-introduce-daily-morning-flights-between-chennai-and-coimbatore/article26867957.ece

Alliance Air to introduce daily morning flights between Chennai and Coimbatore

APRIL 17, 2019

Alliance Air, a subsidiary of Air India, will introduce daily morning flights between Chennai and Coimbatore with effect from April 25.

Flight no. 9I-565 will depart from Chennai at 5.45 a.m. and reach Coimbatore at 7.10 a.m.

Flight No. 9I-566 will take off from Coimbatore at 7.35 a.m. and land in Chennai at 9 a.m. These flights will be available on all days of the week.

Girija Ramesh, Station Manager, Coimbatore Air India, told The Hindu that there was a demand from the people of Coimbatore for the flight. “The potential of Coimbatore has grown so much [that] it is a necessity. We asked the management to include one flight in the morning,” she said.

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