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Indonesia AirAsia X commences Mumbai effective 19MAY17

 
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PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2017 12:31 pm    Post subject: Indonesia AirAsia X commences Mumbai effective 19MAY17 Reply with quote

Indonesia AirAsia X will commence daily Denpasar Bali-Kuala Lumpur-Mumbai effective 19MAY17

XT852 DPS1510 - 1810KUL1910 - 2135BOM 333 D

XT853 BOM2250 - 0630+1KUL0745 - 1045DPS 333 D

Bookings are open for all sectors.

Passengers can travel on these flights to/from Kuala Lumpur and connect to AirAsia and its affiliate's network out of KLIA2
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PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2017 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A 333 seems like a lot of lift to me. Anyone figured out why Malaysia consistently shows up as a prime tourist destination for Indians yet no Indian carrier can make flights work? Are the Malaysian carriers just dumping seats?
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PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2017 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Caliguy wrote:
Anyone figured out why Malaysia consistently shows up as a prime tourist destination for Indians yet no Indian carrier can make flights work? Are the Malaysian carriers just dumping seats?
The Malaysian LCCs rule the roost and are deeply entrenched in the route, whereas whatever premium traffic that has still remained, has always been MH's. It just does not make any financial sense for an Indian carrier to try and make a dent in the market now. Forget FSCs...even successful LCCs like 6E will not venture into this bloodbath. At least, not in the near future. They do not stand even a half-chance.
Cheers, Sumantra.
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PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2017 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sumantra wrote:
Caliguy wrote:
Anyone figured out why Malaysia consistently shows up as a prime tourist destination for Indians yet no Indian carrier can make flights work? Are the Malaysian carriers just dumping seats?
....whereas whatever premium traffic that has still remained, has always been MH's. It just does not make any financial sense for an Indian carrier to try and make a dent in the market now. Forget FSCs...Cheers, Sumantra.


What is preventing Jet and/or AI to make a run at the FSC segment that MH has, and MH has its own issues. Most of the O & D is still primarily Indian origin and Jet/AI with a bunch of code shares from Kuala Lumpur and offering connections to Malaysian residents via DEL or BOM, can make it work. Agreed on the LCC's, even 6E or AI express cannot make a dent. AI express has an outside chance from Tiruchirapalli.
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PostPosted: Fri May 05, 2017 8:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

iah87 wrote:
sumantra wrote:
Caliguy wrote:
Anyone figured out why Malaysia consistently shows up as a prime tourist destination for Indians yet no Indian carrier can make flights work? Are the Malaysian carriers just dumping seats?
....whereas whatever premium traffic that has still remained, has always been MH's. It just does not make any financial sense for an Indian carrier to try and make a dent in the market now. Forget FSCs...Cheers, Sumantra.


What is preventing Jet and/or AI to make a run at the FSC segment that MH has, and MH has its own issues. Most of the O & D is still primarily Indian origin and Jet/AI with a bunch of code shares from Kuala Lumpur and offering connections to Malaysian residents via DEL or BOM, can make it work. Agreed on the LCC's, even 6E or AI express cannot make a dent. AI express has an outside chance from Tiruchirapalli.


Yields are crap ex-Malaysia as the cut-throat competition between Malindo, AirAsia and Malaysia have driven fares to rock bottom.

Do not discount MH - they've rebounded quite well and are holding their own against AirAsia and Malindo.

Add to the fact that KL is only good for funnelling traffic onward to Indonesia, Singapore, Australia, Thailand - and its a lose-lose proposition for Indian carriers.

Even IX had to pull out of Malaysia because according to them - the route was their only loss-making route
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PostPosted: Fri May 05, 2017 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

abhijith16 wrote:
iah87 wrote:
sumantra wrote:
Caliguy wrote:
Anyone figured out why Malaysia consistently shows up as a prime tourist destination for Indians yet no Indian carrier can make flights work? Are the Malaysian carriers just dumping seats?
....whereas whatever premium traffic that has still remained, has always been MH's. It just does not make any financial sense for an Indian carrier to try and make a dent in the market now. Forget FSCs...Cheers, Sumantra.


What is preventing Jet and/or AI to make a run at the FSC segment that MH has, and MH has its own issues. Most of the O & D is still primarily Indian origin and Jet/AI with a bunch of code shares from Kuala Lumpur and offering connections to Malaysian residents via DEL or BOM, can make it work. Agreed on the LCC's, even 6E or AI express cannot make a dent. AI express has an outside chance from Tiruchirapalli.



Yields are crap ex-Malaysia as the cut-throat competition between Malindo, AirAsia and Malaysia have driven fares to rock bottom.

Do not discount MH - they've rebounded quite well and are holding their own against AirAsia and Malindo.

Add to the fact that KL is only good for funnelling traffic onward to Indonesia, Singapore, Australia, Thailand - and its a lose-lose proposition for Indian carriers.

Even IX had to pull out of Malaysia because according to them - the route was their only loss-making route




See I view this as another instance of a country using Indian traffic to essentially fill planes while maintaining higher yields on their home routes - which is called SEAT DUMPING. I know now someone will say but its good for the Indian consumer blah blah blah. I say it isn't. Flights to KUL should be priced fairly. Maybe the ASEAN open skies hasn't worked. Also Indian is very poorly connected to SE Asia from a nonstop perspective. This doesn't help
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