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Air India to lease 7 x 787-9s

 
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 5:04 pm    Post subject: Air India to lease 7 x 787-9s Reply with quote

http://www.dnaindia.com/money/report-with-plans-of-us-expansion-ai-to-induct-wide-bodied-boeing-2379791

With plans of US expansion, AI to induct wide-bodied Boeing

Mon, 3 Apr 2017

The Air India board has approved a proposal seeking to induct the wide-bodied Boeing 787-9 aircraft in the fleet as it plans to expand operations to the US besides launching services to Canada.

Air India will lease seven B787-900 planes, the higher range of B787-8 aircraft, for which the Board has given its go-ahead, Chairman and Managing Director Ashwani Lohani said.

"The board's approval for leasing of seven B787-900 planes has come by," Lohani told PTI.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is great. Now will AI please upgrade their J seat to aisle access? Also I think AI should launch a premium Econ class not these planes to have J/Y+/Y. Also two or three rows of extra leg room for Star Golds and paid is a must.

Btw could a 789 do DEL-SFO and DEL-IAH without payload restrictions. Also what ever happened to AI taking out First on their 77L and will they upgrade their J seat
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 11:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Caliguy wrote:
This is great.
A pleasant surprise, since AI Engineering were initially dead against the B789 Dream)liner, with its commonality with the B788 being not that much, and the B789 being a rather new aircraft. My guess is that discussions with UA Engineering may have turned the decision, as well as the current economics, and expansion plans. AI is looking to enter the NA market gradually, with the ME3 being put back by the large electronic personal item ban. the UA code-shares should be in place this summer, if all goes well. This will benefit both UA and AI alike.
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Now will AI please upgrade their J seat to aisle access? Also I think AI should launch a premium Econ class not these planes to have J/Y+/Y. Also two or three rows of extra leg room for Star Golds and paid is a must.
AI may stick to conservative ideas here. There are some indications to this effect, but as in most things AI, this may go either way.
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Also what ever happened to AI taking out First on their 77L and will they upgrade their J seat
Cabin reconfig on the B77L, along with some interior+IFE repairs are urgently required. However, I doubt if the B77Ls will be taken out of service long enough for a deep refit, unless a heavy check comes close, or the birds go in for some deep service before IAD comes on the line. Let us wait and watch.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good decision to go for the 789 but its coming a bit too late!

They must act fast and pick up or wet-lease some aircraft and start routes faster.. by the time the new 789s come.. Trump may cancell the ban.. who knows!
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They need a serious renewal of their tired J product on both the 777 and 787.

This may be a good time, but then AI is notorious for doing nothing.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 11:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jaysit wrote:
They need a serious renewal of their tired J product on both the 777 and 787.

This may be a good time, but then AI is notorious for doing nothing.


True. The seats look like 20 year old already
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 11:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ameya wrote:
Jaysit wrote:
They need a serious renewal of their tired J product on both the 777 and 787. This may be a good time, but then AI is notorious for doing nothing.
True. The seats look like 20 year old already
Either way, I do not see any change coming soon, from what I know. At best, we should be looking at a B77L reconfig on a heavy check, as and when the next one takes place. The second thing to look forward to, is a wide-ranging list of UA code-shares, scheduled for sometime this summer.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the 787 their seats at least are in use by many airlines. The 777 need to be changed to a high dense lie flat like Swiss. They can change the seat covers and do a deep clean without taking out of service for too long. If they do, AI should really think of more muted seat colors. Being Indian is one thing, bucking design trends and getting loads of negative feedback is another.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sumantra wrote:
ameya wrote:
Jaysit wrote:
They need a serious renewal of their tired J product on both the 777 and 787. This may be a good time, but then AI is notorious for doing nothing.
True. The seats look like 20 year old already
Either way, I do not see any change coming soon, from what I know. At best, we should be looking at a B77L reconfig on a heavy check, as and when the next one takes place. The second thing to look forward to, is a wide-ranging list of UA code-shares, scheduled for sometime this summer.
Cheers, Sumantra.


And that's one reason why I won't bother flying them. Between a tired 77W on an IAD-DEL-BOM routing, or AC's new 789 DCA-YYZ-BOM, I'll take the latter any day. Especially since the latter are about $1100 cheaper.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jaysit wrote:
And that's one reason why I won't bother flying them. Between a tired 77W on an IAD-DEL-BOM routing, or AC's new 789 DCA-YYZ-BOM, I'll take the latter any day. Especially since the latter are about $1100 cheaper.
Not to nitpick Sanjay, but the DCA-YYZ leg will always be a JungleJet route, you'll get the B789 Dream)liner on the YYZ-BOM route. I guess you will fly J, so the food on AC should not be that bad.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 1:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sumantra wrote:
Jaysit wrote:
And that's one reason why I won't bother flying them. Between a tired 77W on an IAD-DEL-BOM routing, or AC's new 789 DCA-YYZ-BOM, I'll take the latter any day. Especially since the latter are about $1100 cheaper.
Not to nitpick Sanjay, but the DCA-YYZ leg will always be a JungleJet route, you'll get the B789 Dream)liner on the YYZ-BOM route. I guess you will fly J, so the food on AC should not be that bad.
Cheers, Sumantra.


Not to nitpick Sumantra, the DEL-BOM leg wont be a widebody service either cause AI 104 gets in at 10.30 am. Also the short 1 hour hop is I guess never a deterrent while making decisions on long haul flights. With that being said, if AI really wants to step up its game, the premium cabins (particularly on the 777s) need a major upgrade.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yashkhullar wrote:
Not to nitpick Sumantra, the DEL-BOM leg wont be a widebody service either cause AI 104 gets in at 10.30 am.

He he...good one Wink
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Also the short 1 hour hop is I guess never a deterrent while making decisions on long haul flights.
Indeed. Plus, for IAD, most of the traffic is centred arond DEL, so an international connector for the BOM-DEL route around mid-day may not be on the cards.
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With that being said, if AI really wants to step up its game, the premium cabins (particularly on the 777s) need a major upgrade.
True, but as I wrote above, I doubt if that will happen anytime very soon. Even the more important B77L reconfig will possibly happen with a heavy check.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2017 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

.........the state-owned airline has also dropped plans to lease in eight B787-9s despite the move garnering board approval in April.


https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news/57931-air-india-tackles-debt-issues-freezes-fleet-expansion-plans
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How about they refurbish and then maintain the cabins of their increasingly filthy and tatty 777s and 787s before they buy new ones.
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http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/industry/transportation/airlines-/-aviation/air-india-puts-on-hold-leasing-of-787-9-planes-says-boeing/articleshow/59854102.cms

Air India puts on hold leasing of 787-9 planes, says Boeing

Aug 01, 2017

Air India has put on hold plans to lease Boeing 787-9 planes amid the government's decision to divest stake in the airline, a senior official from the US aircraft maker said today.

Boeing also said it would honour commitment to Air India, which is expected to take delivery of six more planes from the aircraft maker this fiscal.

When asked about Air India's plans to induct 787-9 aircraft, Boeing Commercial Airplanes Senior Vice President (Asia Pacific and India Sales) Dinesh Keskar said those are on hold now.

Air India has put on "hold" plans to lease Boeing 787-9s because of government's plans to sell stake in the carrier, he said here

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