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PostPosted: Sat Nov 05, 2016 5:15 pm    Post subject: Return trip to New Jersey after Durga Puja (2016) Reply with quote

Kolkata Durga Puja after few decades!!
One reason to visit Kolkata at this time was to visit Durga Puja after many years. Once upon a time Puja was a Hindu religious festival. But I noticed it has evolved into a transnational autumn festival across the globe. It is in fact a display of art, culture, fashion, literature and culinary skills under the cover of all mighty Goddess. As a result it has no religious binding, citizenship requirement and geographical limitations. Once Goddess was worshiped by Landed aristocrats of East India. Today she is widely worshiped by desis of New Jersey/NY/ London / Singapore/Banglasedh as also across the Indian subcontinent. I noticed there are fine display of electrical light shows which were not so during my days. It is worth a visit. Food, fun and festivities all around me for almost 24hrs. People continue to worship year after year and I noticed in my neighbourhood , my third generation boys are the organizer of local puja now. At the end of four days Puja its time to visit your seniors and exchange greetings. I fulfilled all my social obligations and now it’s time to head back to New Jersey.
I headed for NSCBI airport from north side. This locality was once a major industrial hub, today I noticed many smoke stack factories are replaced by high rise apartment complex. Soon airport perimeter wall came into my sight and it looks like a fortress. Watch towers on every 1000ft , all the shanties have been removed. I remember this area during the dark days of 1971, ringed by SAM 2/3 missiles. I entered the integrated terminal from south/west side and entry road was nice and clean. Underground garage is the new parking lot. But international entry gate was closed and we had to get in by domestic gate.
I headed for AI counter and a young lady notified me international connector AI701 will operate as domestic flight. So we have to use domestic part of the terminal, do manual X-ray check ; but luggage will be booked for JFK. We will get two boarding passes CCU-DEL and DEL-JFK. But we have to do customs and immigration in Delhi. I checked in,became free of luggage and took a tour inside the new terminal. It is 3 PM now, arrival area very crowded. But international not much traffic, I found only Regent air, Druk air and Air Asia aircrafts. Yes, there are lot more scope to expand here. Domestic security check poorly manned and slow took half hour!
Once inside the domestic security enclosure, it is a large shopping arcade cum airport terminal. You get the smell of food from a large food court. This has food stores from all parts of India. Although pricy it is well visited. Generally airports don’t sell gourmet foods but bongs will eat any food any where! Nearby a coffee shop selling coffee, Smirnoff Vodka, Heineken Beer, Gin/tonic all under one roof! There are stores for handicrafts, textiles, newspapers ,home decoration items and famed Kolkata sweets. At one corner I found a Biswa Bangla Store which sells famed Baluchari / Jamdani saris, cottage industry items and delicious sweets ( pricy ) under the smiling face of Miss MAMOTA ( chief minister of Kolkata ).
Nearby I noticed two large rest rooms and here you get an idea how much the airport has changed! There are room fresheners on all the four corners, floor dry and moped. Rabindra sangeet being played over head! I think biggest contribution of current generation of bongs are introduction of music in restrooms. Let mankind rest in peace!!
METAMORPHOSIS OF NSCBI AIRPORT: At this point we settle down on a sofa near gate 55 to get the full view of apron area and much of runway activities. Air field extremely busy almost one movement every two minutes. IndiGo is the biggest user followed by Spice Jet, GoAir, Jet/Jetlite, Air India. Most aircraft used are B737 of all varieties, A319/320 with occasional interruption by ATR and dash 8.At times so many IndiGO aircraft block the taxiway F. Air India still using the old livery (Indian) to their aircraft possibly forgot to change! Apron area dotted by large tugs for aircraft marshalling, mechanized conveyors for luggage retrieval. I was pleased to see most passenger movements by aerobridges and apron area completely free of passengers. Large buses taking care of ATR passengers.
I wonder how Kolkata’s ancient ATC handles such traffic load and is apron control good enough to handle such a load on the ground ? I learnt in the middle of Durga Puja one day airport handled 50,000 passengers. Newspaper predicts soon it may be 100,000/ day . Airport handles about 400 movement per day in spite of very inadequate taxing system. Integrated terminal has a capacity of 20 million pax and it is already 14 million! I think it is time to lease the old domestic terminal adjescent to T2 to IndiGo . They could put it to better use relieving pressure from integrated terminal.
Sitting on the apron side I also noticed brisk activities on the parallel runway system. Both runways are being used in every possible ways. Aircrafts enter main runway either by KILO taxiway and take off south side or enter by Charlie or Delta taxiway to main runway and take off north side. Sometimes it was so busy that as one aircraft roll out next departing aircraft move into the runway and occupy take off position. I have confidence on those ATC, keep up the good job.
DREAMLINER FLIGHT TO DEL: Our aircraft a B787 came 15 minutes late and parked at gate 16 which could handle both domestic and international passengers. Aircraft was full in short time and we took off from main runway . Pilot announced we will fly at 40,000 ft and will take 1.50 hrs. Dinner was served soon, it was rice , boneless chicken curry, steamed vegitable, Gulab Jamun (x1), water and coffee. We arrived DEL soon, aircraft parked at a remote stand, bussed to the basement level of T3 half a mile away. Now I have to find out international departure and the signage at this level was really poor. Three CISF staff and one customs agent later I arrived in a small elevator which took us to ground level of T3. I noticed huge immigration control area almost bigger than BOM, followed by security check. Once they saw our DEL-JFK boarding pass it was all clear soon.
AI101 will depart from gate 26 at 1.45AM. I know this area close to smiling Budda. Yes I found him, stood a few minutes near him and walked to gate 26 and fell asleep. Around 11.30PM someone woke me up, gate location changed again to 24A.I dragged my sleeping wife to 24A.Large number of passengers are pouring in from all over INDIA. Dark skin people from south, mongoloid people from east, a few sardarjis, UP ka bhaia; all heading for AI101.
DEL to JFK 8000 miles; are we safe?
Before takeoff AI usually offers one bottle of cold water to each seat. That was refreshing. Aircraft took off from runway 29 and we all fell asleep. An hour later I woke up, snacks are being served and we are heading over Chinese city Kashgarh! I was relieved that I am not flying over AFPAK airspace! I enjoyed this snack of large cheese croissant, fruits, Golab Jamun (x1),cold water and coffee and started examining the real time map.
So we arrived this area by flying over western Tibet, then we headed for Kazakh republic. A huge semicircular arc appeared on my map joining central Asia to NY City. It spans over Kazakhstan,western Siberia,Murmansk, over to arctic circle,Greenland,Labrador channel,New Foundland, US east coast near Boston, Long Island,JFK. Now I am relieved ,someone changed our flight path and we are safe! Whoever did it IAF or MCA will have my thanks!
Near Murmansk lunch was served at midnight. A huge Omelette, cooked spicy sausages, salad,bread, Golab jamun (x1),coffee. I felt the entry of the aircraft over to Atlantic ocean with increased turbulence. Outside completely dark, nothing could be seen. For the first time I travelled the entire distance between Kolkata and NY City in total darkness!. As we crossed Labrador Channel little snacks came in; roasted pea nuts and coke. I thought this is the end of food supply. The wife reported brisk activities near the kitchens. Near New Hampshire dinner came in at about 4.00AM. Rice,boneless chicken curry,steamed vegi.,salad,Gulab jamun (x2),water melon,coffee. We did not expect that much of food. But this was enough to keep us alive till we reach home. Thanks AI!!
Once dinner was over I felt rapid decent of the aircraft. Map wise we were over Long Island.First light of day broke out,I could see Nassau county beaches. Aircraft taking complex turns from one way point to another. Soon it locked up with glide path, I could see taxiways and then a feather touch landing by venerable B777-300 on runway 31L. Ten minutes later we parked at the same gate from where we departed. God bless America! I was asked whether I was carrying rice, tobacco or any other foods. Three hours later I arrived my empty NJ home with a heavy heart, only this time I was not alone!
Comments: 1) Signage at the basement level of DEL T3 must be updated, it is clearly inadequate. There must be someone posted there who understand English besides Hindi as this is the main entry point to Indian subcontinent.
2) Air India should altogether stop using the term “international connector”. Nothing like that exists anymore. One may use the term “spoke operation” and this term must be explained in their web site.
3) If AI wants to discontinue spoke operation all together from Kolkata I have no problem. But avoid secrecy and the practise of last minute notification at check in time must be discontinued. AI has a take it or leave it attitude but desi’s depend on this flight, no harassment needed.
4)There are huge passenger demand for flights between US east coast and DEL. AI should consider flights to cities like Boston, Philadelphia, Wash.DC besides NY,NJ areas. Believe me it will work!!
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 9:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sir, a trip report from you is always a treat. I love the descriptions of the flight path, geographical and historical quips, and the general descriptions! You also make some points, of which some are valid. And some, not so. I will go point-by-point.
sabya99 wrote:
...But I noticed it has evolved into a
transnational autumn festival across the globe. It is in fact a
display of art, culture, fashion, literature and culinary
skills...
You raise an important point. Taking it further,
I have seen even atheists take part in the celebrations for its
cultural significance. And of course, culinary treats.
The best example of such an occurrence is actually Onam, which is
celebrated across the state by people of all religions.
Second, the Durga Puja in Calcutta has to be seen to be believed.
Pandals erected in tiny areas showcase the artistic talent of the local region.
I am glad you liked it, and were able to take part in it, after
such a long hiatus.
sabya99 wrote:
I headed for NSCBI airport from north side. This
locality was once a major industrial hub, today I noticed many
smoke stack factories are replaced by high rise apartment
complex. Soon airport perimeter wall came into my sight and it
looks like a fortress. Watch towers on every 1000ft , all the
shanties have been removed. I remember this area during the dark
days of 1971, ringed by SAM 2/3 missiles. I entered the
integrated terminal from south/west side and entry road was nice
and clean. Underground garage is the new parking
lot.
Beautiful description of the change with the times!

sabya99 wrote:
I headed for AI counter and a young lady
notified me international connector AI701 will operate as
domestic flight. So we have to use domestic part of the terminal,
do manual X-ray check ; but luggage will be booked for JFK. We
will get two boarding passes CCU-DEL and DEL-JFK. But we have to
do customs and immigration in Delhi.

I will dwell on this in your summary in detail. AI 701 is
not an International connector. You could have easily
taken AI 023, which is an international connector, and is
specifically meant to connect to the near-midnight bank of
departures from DEL, which includes all the North American bank,
for instance. However, Dr.(Mrs.)G booked the tickets for you, and she
would not have known, as you mentioned in the previous part.

sabya99 wrote:
Once inside the domestic security enclosure, it
is a large shopping arcade cum airport terminal.
Very nice
description again, Sir. The International terminal is definitely
changing for the better. All this is a good sign. It had started
off as a rather spartan enclosure.

sabya99 wrote:
Air India still using the old livery (Indian) to
their aircraft possibly forgot to change!
These are leased
birds, which may be returned soon. Hence, there is no point in
taxpayers' money going further down the drain, here. On another
note, the interiors often leave a lot to be desired, in these birds.

sabya99 wrote:
I wonder how Kolkata’s ancient ATC handles such
traffic load and is apron control good enough to handle such a
load on the ground?
Indeed! I hope the new tower comes up
soon, along with a more modern system, which is needed for the
huge amount of air traffic controlled over the region.

[quote="sabya99]I think it is time to lease the old domestic
terminal adjescent to T2 to IndiGo . They could put it to better
use relieving pressure from integrated terminal.[/quote]
Indigo's expansion is welcome news, and yes, has put a lot of
pressure on exsiting facilities. DEL and BOM are feeing the pinch
as well. DEL is going to have an expansion in T1-D, for which
they are planning to have the erstwhile T2 opened up (which is
currently in use as the Haj Terminal), which will finally make
way for T4. BOM: you would have heard about T1-A/B/C news, as well.

sabya99 wrote:
Sitting on the apron side I also noticed brisk
activities on the parallel runway system. Both runways are being
used in every possible ways...
I have confidence on those ATC, keep up the good job.

Nice, Sir! Smile

sabya99 wrote:
DREAMLINER FLIGHT TO DEL: Our aircraft
a B787 came 15 minutes late and parked at gate 16 which could
handle both domestic and international passengers.

What you experienced was NSCBIA T2's flexigates, on the spine of
the terminal building. These can be cordoned off to serve in the
domestic and international sections, within a very short period
of time. Gate 16 is currently used specifically for the unique
Air India rotations, where one segment is an International
Connector, and one, a domestic one. You experienced one
first-hand: the plane came in an an International Connector AI 020,
and went back as a pure domestic flight AI 701. As you
experienced, this is a very popular business hour domestic flight.
The opposite takes place on the AI 401/021 rotation. DEL-CCU
domestic, followed by CCU-DEL International.

sabya99 wrote:
Dinner was served soon,
it was rice , boneless chicken curry, steamed
vegetable, Gulab Jamun (x1), water and coffee.


sabya99 wrote:
...soon, aircraft parked at a remote stand,
bussed to the basement
level of T3 half a mile away. Now I have to find out
international departure and the signage at this level was really poor.

Sir, did you give this as a suggestion? I know the area on the
back of my hand, so I would know exactly where to go: it is a bit
ahead, with the signage there, close to the Mudras gallery.
I will dwell on this, below.

sabya99 wrote:
AI101 will depart from gate 26 at 1.45AM. I know
this area close to smiling Budda. Yes I found him, stood a few
minutes near him and walked to gate 26 and fell asleep. Around
11.30PM someone woke me up, gate location changed again to 24A.I
dragged my sleeping wife to 24A.Large number of passengers are
pouring in from all over INDIA. Dark skin people from south,
mongoloid people from east, a few sardarjis, UP ka bhaia; all
heading for AI101.
Very interesting descriptions!

sabya99 wrote:
DEL to JFK 8000 miles; are we safe?
We did not expect that much of food...Thanks AI!!

Wonderful descriptions again, Sir! And yes indeed, I am glad you
experienced why all of us go ga-ga over AI's food and beverage offerings!
They excel in quality as well as quantity.

sabya99 wrote:
1) Signage at the basement level of DEL T3 must
be updated, it is clearly inadequate. There must be someone
posted there who understand English besides Hindi as this is the
main entry point to Indian subcontinent.
As I mentioned
above, I hope you gave this as a suggestion. The GMR group which
runs IGIA, DEL usually takes these seriously. In this case, this
is a small step which could make things easier.

sabya99 wrote:
2) Air India should altogether stop using the
term “international connector”. Nothing like that exists anymore.
One may use the term “spoke operation” and this term must be
explained in their web site.
Sir, you have a valid point
about explaining an `International Connector' on the website.
Sicne Dr.(Mrs.)G booked the tickets for you, she is absolved of
this...but not an avgeek like you! Come on, Sir. You could have
asked any of us who follow your trip reports, or are in regular
correspondence with you. I have specifically documented all of
this in a trip report,
84. The Planned City. By Plane. Mar'14
http://www.airlinersindia.s4.bizhat.com/airlinersindia-ftopic14392.html
I guess I am especially unfortunate that most people do not read my trip
reports. Unlike AI, I do not dish out both quality as well as quantity.
The former takes a hit.
Second, as I had mentioned in my reply to part 1 of your trip,
AI's in-flight magazine has a full page on the description of such situations.
But yes, your point is taken: this should be there at a prominent
place on the AI website, which is currently just about
functional. There are many parts which are rough on the edges,
and you have pointed to one of them.

sabya99 wrote:
3) If AI wants to discontinue spoke operation
all together from Kolkata I have no problem. But avoid secrecy
and the practise of last minute notification at check in time
must be discontinued. AI has a take it or leave it attitude but
desi’s depend on this flight, no harassment needed.

Sir, as I had written in my reply to your previous post, this is
blatantly incorrect, and it is sad that you are continuing
with your line. There is no last minute notification, or a
take-it-or-leave it. The rules are clear, and unambiguous.
You had not done your homework, and ended up second-best.

I have written above that AI's website should have these points.
However, an avgeek usually does his/her homework well.
For instance, you had a better choice for your return flight.
AI 023 [08:15pm-10:40pm] is an International Connector.
It connects to AI 101 much better, and is specifically supposed to.
You would have completed your Immigration and Customs at Calcutta itself.
You would have de-boarded at the International part itself, seen
the International connections right in front of you: much better
signage, helpful AI staff all around, specifically to have a
human element in enabling connections...and of course, less waiting time.

sabya99 wrote:
4)There are huge passenger demand for flights
between US east coast and DEL. AI should consider flights to
cities like Boston, Philadelphia, Wash.DC besides NY,NJ areas.
Believe me it will work!!
DC, perhaps. It is on the anvil.
Right now, Boston and Philly do not justify the traffic.

Thanks for a nice trip report again, Sir!
Cheers, Sumantra.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 3:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sabya,
Again your TR of the return sector is as good as (may be even better) than the JFK-CCU sector. Sumantra has commented on all main aspects of your TR, so I am covering one or two that he overlooked Smile

- You must have noticed there is decent food court at CCU departure level. I had a hearty meal there late in the evening before I boarded my Indigo flight to DEL last April (part of YWG-YYZ-LHR-HEL-DEL-CCU return).

- Miss MAMOTA (chief minister of KOLKATA !!! If her goons come to know that you reduced her territory to the perimeters of Calcutta, you may not get a visa next time to enter India Very Happy

- Gulab Jamun (x1), Gulab Jamun (x1) and finally Gulab Jamun (x2)
4 in a single flight, not bad at all...
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2016 8:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

@ Sumantra and Mr.Pal thanks for the reply. You two are regular readers of my trip reports. I know it is not a fancy report devoid of any picture, will not be very attractive to many younger generation readers but I try to write down whatever I see or experience.
1) Onam is a harvest festival, there is no need to involve any religion in that business. Durga puja has evolved into a transnational autumn festival and anybody could participate.
2) The issue of new ATC building at Kolkata airport is becoming a pressing issue as each day pass by. I don’t know how that ancient tower handles the load. Current integrated terminal could handle the passenger load another ten years.
3) The scope, timing, locations of international connectors should be clearly mentioned in AI website and not in in-flight magazine. This does not cost money and will help ordinary people!
4) Easy transfer at DEL hub to various spoke flights will increase AI passenger loads and monopoly of ME3 airlines could be checked.
5) ME3 airlines connect Boston area with Indian subcontinent and they have good passenger loads. Philadel. Area is now home to large number of desis.

@ Mr.Pal we also visited that food court and had masala dosha cooked right in front of us, it was delicious. Miss MAMOTA ( chief minister of Kolkata) instead of West Bengal was a slip of pen. I did not mean anything political. Number of Gulab Jamun CCU-DEL 1x + DEL-JFK 4x= total 5 sweets. That was unforgettable!
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2016 10:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sabya99 wrote:
1) Onam is a harvest festival, there is no need to involve any religion in that business.
Sir, you obviously do not have too many Keralite friends Smile Hindu mythology has Vishnu's vAman (dwarf) avatAr subjugating the mighty king Mahabali. Mahabali however, was an extremely loved and popular king, who was permitted to come and visit the people whom he loved, once a year. That coincides with the harvest period as well.
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3) The scope, timing, locations of international connectors should be clearly mentioned in AI website and not in in-flight magazine. This does not cost money and will help ordinary people!
Indeed, I have specifically dwelt on that. Did you pass that on as a suggestion? That would help everybody.
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5) ME3 airlines connect Boston area with Indian subcontinent and they have good passenger loads. Philadel. Area is now home to large number of desis.
Sir, from what I know, it is an issue both with the numbers, as well as the yields. AI will soon have more aircraft. Boston and Philly will not come in a hurry: there are other US destinations of better interest to AI, and the Indian taxpayer.
This is right now. Of course, the situation may change in the near future.
sabya99 wrote:
Number of Gulab Jamun CCU-DEL 1x + DEL-JFK 4x= total 5 sweets. That was unforgettable!
Smile This pleases the resident glutton of the forum (Yours Truly).
Now, I have quiz question for you. Do you know the origin of the related Bong sweet, the leDIkenI/leDIgenI? It has an interesting history!
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sumantra wrote:
Sir, you obviously do not have too many Keralite friends Smile Hindu mythology has Vishnu's vAman (dwarf) avatAr subjugating the mighty king Mahabali. Mahabali however, was an extremely loved and popular king, who was permitted to come and visit the people whom he loved, once a year. That coincides with the harvest period as well.


While Vamanan is considered to be an avatar of Vishnu finds a place in Hindu Mythology, Onam is not a religious festival. Please don't give religious colours to the festival. It is celebrated as a harvest festival by all means.
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binaiks wrote:
While Vamanan is considered to be an avatar of Vishnu finds a place in Hindu Mythology, Onam is not a religious festival. Please don't give religious colours to the festival. It is celebrated as a harvest festival by all means.
Thank you for the correction, Binai!
And this is one festival where even the staunchest non-vegetarians go pure-veg for the oNya-sAdyam: either the full 10-course version, or the Nair household abbreviated 4-course one.
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HISTORY OF LADICANI ( the sweet ):
Time 1857-58: Mutiny and rebellion broke out all over British India against the oppressive British rule. Much of north and central India plunged into chaos, British rule ceased to exist for much of the subcontinent. Anarchy, looting and plundering became the order of the day. Against this backdrop an young British officer was sent to India to put down the mutiny and restore order, he was Lord Canning. Lord Canning spend a few months in Governor House ,Calcutta, set up detailed plan for reconquest of lost territory in North/Central India. He also rediscovered a small trading post only 20 miles north of Calcutta—Barackpore. Both Lord and Lady Canning liked the serenity of this place and this became ultimate command center of Lord Canning and great Indian mutiny was put down from here. The Golgen Victorian age ushered from here. India then a,dark subcontinent ultimately exposed to European culture and technology. New Anglophobic aristocrats appeared on social scene and they were loyal subjects of Queen Victoria. All around the capital city Calcutta ,victory of British forces were celebrated. Statues of British Generals were erected in traffic islands, roads were named as Queens Way, Red road. At this festive time a group of loyal British subjects from north Calcutta decided to celebrate the victory of British Army in unique way; they wanted to have a sweet named after an important British personality. After some debate these gentoos decided to name a sweet after India’s then first Lady lovely Lady Canning.
The sweet they reinvented was nothing but today’s Golab Jamun, but it was made of 50:50 flour and cottage cheese and boiled in heavy syrup. It is as delicious as its namesake and still sold all around Calcutta . Only desi folks have changed its name from Lady Canning to LADYCANI. If you visit Kolkata try it in any sweet store and this mouth watering sweet is still available . And what happened to Lady Canning? She passed away ( childbirth mishap ?) and was buried in Barackpore Cantonment.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2016 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sabya99 wrote:
HISTORY OF LADICANI ( the sweet ):
Sir, I am actually surprised that you had to quote some facts from the Internet...I had thought that you would have known this from your childhood days in Calcutta Smile Lady Canning died of Malaria.
On a related (sweet) note, I also trust that you know the origins of the rossogollA, and that it is in all probability, not a Bong invention, but has Utkaliya origins (the state of Orissa/Odisha). History points to an ancestor of this sweet being offered to the deity at the famous Jagannath in Puri. The second theory is related to the story K. C. Das have on their rossogollA tins...the ancestors of Nobin Das (the person credited with the invention of the grand sweet), were Utkaliyas (a `Das' can be a Bong or an Utkaliya, in the latter case, a term often used to describe one who devoted his life in the service of the Lord)
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