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Air Seychelles adds new Jet Airways codeshare routes from Oct 2016
Air Seychelles since 01OCT16 expanded codeshare network with Jet Airways, as HM code is being displayed on additional pair of Jet Airways service to East Asia.
Planned new codeshare routes include the following.
Air Seychelles operated by Jet Airways
Mumbai Hong Kong
Mumbai Singapore
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Incident: Jet Airways B773 at London on Aug 30th 2016, unsafe departure
A Jet Airways Boeing 777-300, registration VT-JEK performing flight 9W-117 from London Heathrow,EN (UK) to Mumbai (India), lined up Heathrow's runway 27L at taxiway S4E, about 1200 meters/4000 feet down the runway (total runway length 3660 meters/12000 feet leaving about 2400 meters/8000 feet remaining for that takeoff). The aircraft departed, climbed through 1000 feet MSL about 3200 meters/1.7nm past the runway end and continued the flight to Mumbai for a safe landing about 8:10 hours after departure.
However, local residents complained to police about a low flying aircraft, that had barely cleared the aerodrome perimeter fence. Police contacted Air Traffic Control at Heathrow Airport, who identified the aircraft and notified United Kingdom's AAIB. The AAIB opened an investigation into the occurrence and informed India's Directorate General of Civil Aviation (DGCA), who suspended both captain and first officer of the flight pending the investigation.
The airline reported there had been no injuries and no damage, the airline however investigates the occurrence as part of their active safety management, too. The aircraft performed an intersection departure, thus not using the full runway length, however, did not climb to required height in time and crossed the airport perimeter wall and traffic on the road just past the wall at very low height.
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330-200
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indopaki wrote: | me111993 wrote: |
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Is there a source for this info ( that it is "100% sold off")? It definitely started of as being leased directly to JU by 9W. _________________ 11000 posts (and counting) on Airliners-India.
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http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/industry/transportation/airlines-/-aviation/etihad-men-move-out-as-naresh-goyal-back-in-jet-pilots-seat/articleshow/54744533.cms
Etihad men move out as Naresh Goyal back in Jet pilot's seat
Oct 08, 2016
All representatives of Etihad Airways in Jet Airways have left, signalling that the operational control of the airline is back in the hands of founder Naresh Goyal.
People in the aviation industry and a few who are close to the development told ET that this and other developments hint the Jet-Etihad relationship is moving in a different direction three years after the two struck a deal.
In the last year and a half, Cramer Ball (CEO), Martin Drew (VP, Cargo), Rajeev Nambiar (VP, Sales), Renyl Rauf, (VP, Financial Planning, Reporting and Projects), Roy Kinnear and Rangesh Embar (both business advisers) have quit and most of them have returned to Etihad or taken up positions deputed by the airline.
Kinnear is now CEO of Air Seychelles and Ball is CEO of Alitalia, both strategic partners of Etihad which owns 24% of Jet. Embar was the last to leave.
His last Etihad men move out as Naresh Goyal back in Jet pilot's seat day was August 12, the last board meeting of the airline, said a person in the know.
Etihad Chief Executive Officer James Hogan and Chief Financial Officer James Rigney are Jet board members. Also, more than nine months after Cramer Ball quit as CEO, Jet is yet to fill the post. Sources said the names of three candidates were floated but the two partners didnt agree. While some posts have been filled Pradeep Kumar from Emirates now heads cargo operations at Jet the proposal for some top and middle rung positions is still pending, said executives of three headhunting firms ET spoke to.
Sources said while Goyal is involved in key decisions at Jet, he has entrusted the airlines operations to his three trusted lieutenants Amit Agarwal (CFO and acting CEO), Jayaraj Shanmugam (its newly appointed Chief Commercial Officer) and Gaurang Shetty (whole-time Director) who is steering new and far reaching commercial agreements for it globally.
In response to emailed queries, Jet said the movement of Etihad representatives is in the normal course of things as the teams were formed to work on a host of initiatives and many of these have been implemented, resulting in improved operating and financial performance of Jet Airways. _________________ 11000 posts (and counting) on Airliners-India.
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Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 2:36 pm Post subject: |
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747-237 wrote: | indopaki wrote: | me111993 wrote: |
330-200
1X with JU (100% sold off)
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Sold to JU or Etihad? |
Is there a source for this info ( that it is "100% sold off")? It definitely started of as being leased directly to JU by 9W. |
Subleased to JU
www.jetairways.com/documents/Q3-JetAirways.pdf
Page 8, line from Cramer Ball - 9W's then CEO.
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The aircraft sub-lease to Turkish Airlines have been sub-leased for quite some time, so there is no change in that regard. We are in the midst of closing sub-lease to Air Serbia and that will be finalized hopefully in the coming weeks. The other options we have, as I said we have the options of taking in some more capacity and we are currently doing some studies looking at the opportunities of where and how we can deploy, but the beauty is we have a number of options and we are in a good position to take advantage of the opportunities that exist in the market. |
The 2 A330-200s that headed to Etihad, before making their home in Alitalia (ex-A6-AGA/B, current I-EJGA/B) have been sold off. _________________ <a><img></a> |
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abhijith16 Member
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747-237 wrote: | http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/industry/transportation/airlines-/-aviation/etihad-men-move-out-as-naresh-goyal-back-in-jet-pilots-seat/articleshow/54744533.cms
Etihad men move out as Naresh Goyal back in Jet pilot's seat
Oct 08, 2016
All representatives of Etihad Airways in Jet Airways have left, signalling that the operational control of the airline is back in the hands of founder Naresh Goyal.
People in the aviation industry and a few who are close to the development told ET that this and other developments hint the Jet-Etihad relationship is moving in a different direction three years after the two struck a deal.
In the last year and a half, Cramer Ball (CEO), Martin Drew (VP, Cargo), Rajeev Nambiar (VP, Sales), Renyl Rauf, (VP, Financial Planning, Reporting and Projects), Roy Kinnear and Rangesh Embar (both business advisers) have quit and most of them have returned to Etihad or taken up positions deputed by the airline.
Kinnear is now CEO of Air Seychelles and Ball is CEO of Alitalia, both strategic partners of Etihad which owns 24% of Jet. Embar was the last to leave.
His last Etihad men move out as Naresh Goyal back in Jet pilot's seat day was August 12, the last board meeting of the airline, said a person in the know.
Etihad Chief Executive Officer James Hogan and Chief Financial Officer James Rigney are Jet board members. Also, more than nine months after Cramer Ball quit as CEO, Jet is yet to fill the post. Sources said the names of three candidates were floated but the two partners didnt agree. While some posts have been filled Pradeep Kumar from Emirates now heads cargo operations at Jet the proposal for some top and middle rung positions is still pending, said executives of three headhunting firms ET spoke to.
Sources said while Goyal is involved in key decisions at Jet, he has entrusted the airlines operations to his three trusted lieutenants Amit Agarwal (CFO and acting CEO), Jayaraj Shanmugam (its newly appointed Chief Commercial Officer) and Gaurang Shetty (whole-time Director) who is steering new and far reaching commercial agreements for it globally.
In response to emailed queries, Jet said the movement of Etihad representatives is in the normal course of things as the teams were formed to work on a host of initiatives and many of these have been implemented, resulting in improved operating and financial performance of Jet Airways. |
Interesting bit from the same article -
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There have been other issues as well between the two. One person in the know said when Jet made its long-pending confirmation of an order of 75 Boeing 737 Max planes in November 2015, it came after a long to-and-fro with the Etihad management. The order included an option for 50 planes. The options have now been firmed up, said one of the people cited above. The airline wanted to make an announcement to that effect during the Farnborough Airshow in July 2016, but the Etihad management, headed by Hogan put its foot down, said one of the people cited above.
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So if this report is true - then 9W's orderbook with Boeing stands at 125 Boeing 737 MAXs & 10 Boeing 787-9 Dream)Liners. _________________ <a><img></a> |
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Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 3:29 pm Post subject: |
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abhijith16 wrote: | 747-237 wrote: | indopaki wrote: | me111993 wrote: |
330-200
1X with JU (100% sold off)
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Sold to JU or Etihad? |
Is there a source for this info ( that it is "100% sold off")? It definitely started of as being leased directly to JU by 9W. |
Subleased to JU
www.jetairways.com/documents/Q3-JetAirways.pdf
Page 8, line from Cramer Ball - 9W's then CEO.
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So that one will be back. I believe the lease is 3 years.
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The 2 A330-200s that headed to Etihad, before making their home in Alitalia (ex-A6-AGA/B, current I-EJGA/B) have been sold off. |
Is that in the document as well ? I missed seeing that. _________________ 11000 posts (and counting) on Airliners-India.
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me111993 Member
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Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 8:32 pm Post subject: |
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747-237 wrote: | abhijith16 wrote: | 747-237 wrote: | indopaki wrote: | me111993 wrote: |
330-200
1X with JU (100% sold off)
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Sold to JU or Etihad? |
Is there a source for this info ( that it is "100% sold off")? It definitely started of as being leased directly to JU by 9W. |
Subleased to JU
www.jetairways.com/documents/Q3-JetAirways.pdf
Page 8, line from Cramer Ball - 9W's then CEO.
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So that one will be back. I believe the lease is 3 years.
abhijith16 wrote: |
The 2 A330-200s that headed to Etihad, before making their home in Alitalia (ex-A6-AGA/B, current I-EJGA/B) have been sold off. |
Is that in the document as well ? I missed seeing that. |
AZ have actually reconfigured their planes, so those planes I guess are gone.
Lets see about the JU 332. Even the TK 332s. I don't see either returning. Sold or not. _________________ Causal Determinism : We are hardwired to need answers. The Caveman who heard a rustle in the bushes and checked out to see what it was, lived longer than the guy, who assumed it was just a breeze.
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747-237 Member
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Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 9:52 pm Post subject: |
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me111993 wrote: | 747-237 wrote: | abhijith16 wrote: | 747-237 wrote: | indopaki wrote: | me111993 wrote: |
330-200
1X with JU (100% sold off)
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Sold to JU or Etihad? |
Is there a source for this info ( that it is "100% sold off")? It definitely started of as being leased directly to JU by 9W. |
Subleased to JU
www.jetairways.com/documents/Q3-JetAirways.pdf
Page 8, line from Cramer Ball - 9W's then CEO.
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So that one will be back. I believe the lease is 3 years.
abhijith16 wrote: |
The 2 A330-200s that headed to Etihad, before making their home in Alitalia (ex-A6-AGA/B, current I-EJGA/B) have been sold off. |
Is that in the document as well ? I missed seeing that. |
AZ have actually reconfigured their planes, so those planes I guess are gone.
Lets see about the JU 332. Even the TK 332s. I don't see either returning. Sold or not. |
Oh, ok; so thats more of an inference, rather than fact. Fair enough. _________________ 11000 posts (and counting) on Airliners-India.
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me111993 Member
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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2016 5:35 pm Post subject: |
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747-237 wrote: | me111993 wrote: | 747-237 wrote: | abhijith16 wrote: | 747-237 wrote: | indopaki wrote: | me111993 wrote: |
330-200
1X with JU (100% sold off)
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Sold to JU or Etihad? |
Is there a source for this info ( that it is "100% sold off")? It definitely started of as being leased directly to JU by 9W. |
Subleased to JU
www.jetairways.com/documents/Q3-JetAirways.pdf
Page 8, line from Cramer Ball - 9W's then CEO.
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So that one will be back. I believe the lease is 3 years.
abhijith16 wrote: |
The 2 A330-200s that headed to Etihad, before making their home in Alitalia (ex-A6-AGA/B, current I-EJGA/B) have been sold off. |
Is that in the document as well ? I missed seeing that. |
AZ have actually reconfigured their planes, so those planes I guess are gone.
Lets see about the JU 332. Even the TK 332s. I don't see either returning. Sold or not. |
Oh, ok; so thats more of an inference, rather than fact. Fair enough. |
The focus was more on the utilization of the 330s, which no one seems to be bothering about in this post.
Rest, god himself will not be able to predict 9W's WB fleet. _________________ Causal Determinism : We are hardwired to need answers. The Caveman who heard a rustle in the bushes and checked out to see what it was, lived longer than the guy, who assumed it was just a breeze.
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Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2016 7:13 am Post subject: |
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me111993 wrote: | 747-237 wrote: | me111993 wrote: | 747-237 wrote: | abhijith16 wrote: | 747-237 wrote: | indopaki wrote: | me111993 wrote: |
330-200
1X with JU (100% sold off)
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Sold to JU or Etihad? |
Is there a source for this info ( that it is "100% sold off")? It definitely started of as being leased directly to JU by 9W. |
Subleased to JU
www.jetairways.com/documents/Q3-JetAirways.pdf
Page 8, line from Cramer Ball - 9W's then CEO.
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So that one will be back. I believe the lease is 3 years.
abhijith16 wrote: |
The 2 A330-200s that headed to Etihad, before making their home in Alitalia (ex-A6-AGA/B, current I-EJGA/B) have been sold off. |
Is that in the document as well ? I missed seeing that. |
AZ have actually reconfigured their planes, so those planes I guess are gone.
Lets see about the JU 332. Even the TK 332s. I don't see either returning. Sold or not. |
Oh, ok; so thats more of an inference, rather than fact. Fair enough. |
The focus was more on the utilization of the 330s, which no one seems to be bothering about in this post.
Rest, god himself will not be able to predict 9W's WB fleet. |
No doubt. Some of us were trying to figure out if airframes in 9W's fleet have been "sold off" (whether 100%, or probably), because that's the first we've heard about it. _________________ 11000 posts (and counting) on Airliners-India.
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me111993 Member
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Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2016 10:06 am Post subject: |
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747-237 wrote: | me111993 wrote: | 747-237 wrote: | me111993 wrote: | 747-237 wrote: | abhijith16 wrote: | 747-237 wrote: | indopaki wrote: | me111993 wrote: |
330-200
1X with JU (100% sold off)
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Sold to JU or Etihad? |
Is there a source for this info ( that it is "100% sold off")? It definitely started of as being leased directly to JU by 9W. |
Subleased to JU
www.jetairways.com/documents/Q3-JetAirways.pdf
Page 8, line from Cramer Ball - 9W's then CEO.
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So that one will be back. I believe the lease is 3 years.
abhijith16 wrote: |
The 2 A330-200s that headed to Etihad, before making their home in Alitalia (ex-A6-AGA/B, current I-EJGA/B) have been sold off. |
Is that in the document as well ? I missed seeing that. |
AZ have actually reconfigured their planes, so those planes I guess are gone.
Lets see about the JU 332. Even the TK 332s. I don't see either returning. Sold or not. |
Oh, ok; so thats more of an inference, rather than fact. Fair enough. |
The focus was more on the utilization of the 330s, which no one seems to be bothering about in this post.
Rest, god himself will not be able to predict 9W's WB fleet. |
No doubt. Some of us were trying to figure out if airframes in 9W's fleet have been "sold off" (whether 100%, or probably), because that's the first we've heard about it. |
Yes, because opening planespotters.net is equivalent to *figuring* out the half life of plutonium-239 radioisotopes. _________________ Causal Determinism : We are hardwired to need answers. The Caveman who heard a rustle in the bushes and checked out to see what it was, lived longer than the guy, who assumed it was just a breeze.
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Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2016 10:12 am Post subject: |
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me111993 wrote: | 747-237 wrote: | me111993 wrote: | 747-237 wrote: | me111993 wrote: | 747-237 wrote: | abhijith16 wrote: | 747-237 wrote: | indopaki wrote: | me111993 wrote: |
330-200
1X with JU (100% sold off)
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Sold to JU or Etihad? |
Is there a source for this info ( that it is "100% sold off")? It definitely started of as being leased directly to JU by 9W. |
Subleased to JU
www.jetairways.com/documents/Q3-JetAirways.pdf
Page 8, line from Cramer Ball - 9W's then CEO.
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So that one will be back. I believe the lease is 3 years.
abhijith16 wrote: |
The 2 A330-200s that headed to Etihad, before making their home in Alitalia (ex-A6-AGA/B, current I-EJGA/B) have been sold off. |
Is that in the document as well ? I missed seeing that. |
AZ have actually reconfigured their planes, so those planes I guess are gone.
Lets see about the JU 332. Even the TK 332s. I don't see either returning. Sold or not. |
Oh, ok; so thats more of an inference, rather than fact. Fair enough. |
The focus was more on the utilization of the 330s, which no one seems to be bothering about in this post.
Rest, god himself will not be able to predict 9W's WB fleet. |
No doubt. Some of us were trying to figure out if airframes in 9W's fleet have been "sold off" (whether 100%, or probably), because that's the first we've heard about it. |
Yes, because opening planespotters.net is equivalent to *figuring* out the half life of plutonium-239 radioisotopes. |
Is that where you get your "expert" advice from ? No wonder you're quite the aviation anal-yst around here. And apparently, a scientist too. _________________ 11000 posts (and counting) on Airliners-India.
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Jet Airways adds new A330 Middle East service in W16
Jet Airways in winter 2016/17 season is expanding wide-body aircraft operations to the Middle East, with the placement of A330-200/-300 aircraft to Qatar and Saudi Arabia. Planned changes as follow.
eff 30OCT16 Delhi Dammam A330-200/-300 replaces 737-800, overall service reduces from 2 to 1 daily
eff 30OCT16 Mumbai Dammam A330-200/-300 replaces 737-800, overall service reduces from 2 to 1 daily
eff 30OCT16 Mumbai Doha A330-200/-300 replaces 737-800, overall service reduces from 11 to 7 weekly (737 operates Day 67 from 04FEB17)
eff 15JAN17 Mumbai Jeddah A330-200 replaces 737-900 (except 16JAN17/17JAN17; Selected dates operated by A330-300)
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Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2016 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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747-237 wrote: | Jet Airways adds new A330 Middle East service in W16
Jet Airways in winter 2016/17 season is expanding wide-body aircraft operations to the Middle East, with the placement of A330-200/-300 aircraft to Qatar and Saudi Arabia. Planned changes as follow.
eff 30OCT16 Delhi Dammam A330-200/-300 replaces 737-800, overall service reduces from 2 to 1 daily
eff 30OCT16 Mumbai Dammam A330-200/-300 replaces 737-800, overall service reduces from 2 to 1 daily
eff 30OCT16 Mumbai Doha A330-200/-300 replaces 737-800, overall service reduces from 11 to 7 weekly (737 operates Day 67 from 04FEB17)
eff 15JAN17 Mumbai Jeddah A330-200 replaces 737-900 (except 16JAN17/17JAN17; Selected dates operated by A330-300)
Source: Airlineroute.net |
Are these placeholder flights for one season? Do we think Jet can make money with premium heavy planes on these routes?
Any rumors of what new flights Jet will start as part of their AF/DL partnership? They said US flights, any news? |
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Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2016 8:20 pm Post subject: |
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Caliguy wrote: | 747-237 wrote: | Jet Airways adds new A330 Middle East service in W16
Jet Airways in winter 2016/17 season is expanding wide-body aircraft operations to the Middle East, with the placement of A330-200/-300 aircraft to Qatar and Saudi Arabia. Planned changes as follow.
eff 30OCT16 Delhi Dammam A330-200/-300 replaces 737-800, overall service reduces from 2 to 1 daily
eff 30OCT16 Mumbai Dammam A330-200/-300 replaces 737-800, overall service reduces from 2 to 1 daily
eff 30OCT16 Mumbai Doha A330-200/-300 replaces 737-800, overall service reduces from 11 to 7 weekly (737 operates Day 67 from 04FEB17)
eff 15JAN17 Mumbai Jeddah A330-200 replaces 737-900 (except 16JAN17/17JAN17; Selected dates operated by A330-300)
Source: Airlineroute.net |
Are these placeholder flights for one season? Do we think Jet can make money with premium heavy planes on these routes?
Any rumors of what new flights Jet will start as part of their AF/DL partnership? They said US flights, any news? |
Finally putting better aircraft on their bread and butter ME routes. |
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Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2016 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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Caliguy wrote: | 747-237 wrote: | Jet Airways adds new A330 Middle East service in W16
Jet Airways in winter 2016/17 season is expanding wide-body aircraft operations to the Middle East, with the placement of A330-200/-300 aircraft to Qatar and Saudi Arabia. Planned changes as follow.
eff 30OCT16 Delhi Dammam A330-200/-300 replaces 737-800, overall service reduces from 2 to 1 daily
eff 30OCT16 Mumbai Dammam A330-200/-300 replaces 737-800, overall service reduces from 2 to 1 daily
eff 30OCT16 Mumbai Doha A330-200/-300 replaces 737-800, overall service reduces from 11 to 7 weekly (737 operates Day 67 from 04FEB17)
eff 15JAN17 Mumbai Jeddah A330-200 replaces 737-900 (except 16JAN17/17JAN17; Selected dates operated by A330-300)
Source: Airlineroute.net |
Are these placeholder flights for one season? Do we think Jet can make money with premium heavy planes on these routes?
Any rumors of what new flights Jet will start as part of their AF/DL partnership? They said US flights, any news? |
Not a big difference in Premium capacity. 9Ws 73H has 16 J seats. The 332 has 18 J (herringbone config)
With BOM-JED, it's actually a reduction in J-Seats offered.. (28 J on the 739ER)
OTOH, Y sees a jump in capacity, so does cargo.. |
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Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2016 10:37 am Post subject: |
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GF1011 wrote: |
Not a big difference in Premium capacity. 9Ws 73H has 16 J seats. The 332 has 18 J (herringbone config)
With BOM-JED, it's actually a reduction in J-Seats offered.. (28 J on the 739ER)
OTOH, Y sees a jump in capacity, so does cargo.. |
The 737-800s and -900ERs have 12J seats where are the old -900s (JGC/JGD) have 28J seats. _________________ Flying High.... You and Me...! |
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abhijith16 Member
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Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2016 1:14 pm Post subject: |
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GF1011 wrote: | Caliguy wrote: | 747-237 wrote: | Jet Airways adds new A330 Middle East service in W16
Jet Airways in winter 2016/17 season is expanding wide-body aircraft operations to the Middle East, with the placement of A330-200/-300 aircraft to Qatar and Saudi Arabia. Planned changes as follow.
eff 30OCT16 Delhi Dammam A330-200/-300 replaces 737-800, overall service reduces from 2 to 1 daily
eff 30OCT16 Mumbai Dammam A330-200/-300 replaces 737-800, overall service reduces from 2 to 1 daily
eff 30OCT16 Mumbai Doha A330-200/-300 replaces 737-800, overall service reduces from 11 to 7 weekly (737 operates Day 67 from 04FEB17)
eff 15JAN17 Mumbai Jeddah A330-200 replaces 737-900 (except 16JAN17/17JAN17; Selected dates operated by A330-300)
Source: Airlineroute.net |
Are these placeholder flights for one season? Do we think Jet can make money with premium heavy planes on these routes?
Any rumors of what new flights Jet will start as part of their AF/DL partnership? They said US flights, any news? |
Not a big difference in Premium capacity. 9Ws 73H has 16 J seats. The 332 has 18 J (herringbone config)
With BOM-JED, it's actually a reduction in J-Seats offered.. (28 J on the 739ER)
OTOH, Y sees a jump in capacity, so does cargo.. |
Do note though, that the overall capacity in Delhi-Dammam, Mumbai-Dammam/Doha will drop after the introduction of the A330. _________________ <a><img></a> |
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abhijith16 Member
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Jet Airways to commence Hyderabad - Sharjah effective 12DEC
9W510 HYD0001 - 0230SHJ 73H D
9W509 SHJ0330 - 0830HYD 73H D
Bookings to commence shortly.
Along with that - 9W will also add an additional Hyderabad - Bengaluru from 11DEC
From 11DEC - 14DEC (till 13DEC for 9W2803)
9W2806 HYD0900 - 1000BLR 73H
9W2803 BLR2210 - 2300HYD 73H
From 15DEC
9W2806 BLR0855 - 0955HYD 73H D
9W2803 HYD2215 - 2305BLR 73H D _________________ <a><img></a> |
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747-237 Member
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Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2016 6:38 am Post subject: |
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Delta expands Jet Airways codeshare service in W16
Delta later this month is enhancing travel options to India, with expanded codeshare deal with Jet Airways, effective from 30OCT16.
Deltas DL code will be placed on following service operated by Jet Airways.
DELTA operated by Jet Airways
Mumbai Coimbatore
Mumbai Goa
Mumbai Indore
Mumbai Jaipur
Mumbai Kozhikode
Mumbai Lucknow
Mumbai Mangalore
Mumbai Paris CDG
Mumbai Pune
Mumbai Thiruvananthapuram
Mumbai Vadodara
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Caliguy Member
Joined: 14 Nov 2007 Posts: 723 Location: Los Angeles
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Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2016 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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The fact that CDG-BOM is on the list, makes me scared AF will stop CDG-BOM. Would be a bummer. |
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jbalonso777 Member
Joined: 05 Jul 2012 Posts: 1501 Location: Never, never land
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Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2016 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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^^ Wouldn't be surprised if it happens, tbh.
For long AF has said that they might pull out of one Indian destination, but I do believe that BOM has enough traffic to sustain both flights...
Edit - AF haven't explicitly said that, but there have been rumors... _________________ http://www.youtube.com/c/JishnuBasu777 |
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747-237 Member
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Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 4:51 pm Post subject: |
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Another Etihad leased 777 has been returned to Jet Airways. The airframe in question is A6-JAD; the former VT-JEB/VT-JEP.
She has been re-re-registered as VT-JEV.
To summarize;
VT-JEB -> To Thai as HS-TKH -> To Jet Airways as VT-JEP -> To Turkish as VT-JEP -> To Jet Airways as VT-JEP -> To Etihad as A6-JAD -> To Jet Airways as VT-JEV _________________ 11000 posts (and counting) on Airliners-India.
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747-237 Member
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Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2016 9:06 am Post subject: |
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With 2 more 777s due back from Etihad (A6-JAF/VT-JEE/VT-JEL(II), & A6-JAE/VT-JEG), it would be interesting to see whether the next one in is re-re-registered VT-JEW .....and flown all over the Middle East (since Jew-S-A is no longer served)....wonder how that would go down with 9W's Arab overlords. _________________ 11000 posts (and counting) on Airliners-India.
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747-237 Member
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Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2016 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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Jet Airways expands AIRFRANCE-KLM codeshare routes in W16
Jet Airways at the launch of winter 2016/17 schedule expands codeshare partnership with AIRFRANCE-KLM, covering additional Trans-Atlantic routes operated by the Skyteam carriers.
Planned new codeshare routes from 30OCT16 as follow.
Jet Airways operated by AIRFRANCE
Paris CDG Montreal
Paris CDG Toronto
Paris CDG Vancouver
Jet Airways operated by KLM
Amsterdam Atlanta
Amsterdam Miami
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747-237 Member
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Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2016 8:54 pm Post subject: |
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Jet Airways expands Delta codeshares from Oct 2016
Jet Airways starting 30OCT16 is expanding codeshare partnership with DELTA, covering the latters service between Europe and US, as well as domestic US routes.
Planned new codeshare routes as follow.
Jet Airways operated by DELTA
Amsterdam Atlanta
Amsterdam Boston
Amsterdam Detroit
Amsterdam Minneapolis/St. Paul
Amsterdam Portland OR
Amsterdam Salt Lake City
Amsterdam Seattle
Atlanta Austin
Atlanta Boston
Atlanta Charlotte
Atlanta Chicago OHare
Atlanta Cincinnati
Atlanta Columbus OH
Atlanta Denver
Atlanta Detroit
Atlanta Las Vegas
Atlanta Minneapolis/St. Paul
Atlanta Newark
Atlanta New York JFK
Atlanta Orlando
Atlanta Philadelphia
Atlanta Phoenix
Atlanta Pittsburgh
Atlanta Portland OR
Atlanta Raleigh
Atlanta St. Louis
Atlanta Salt Lake City
Atlanta San Diego
Atlanta San Francisco
Atlanta Seattle
Atlanta Tampa
Boston Cincinnati
Boston Detroit
Boston New York JFK
Boston Minneapolis/St. Paul
Boston Orlando
Boston Salt Lake City
Boston Seattle
Cincinnati Denver
Cincinnati Detroit
Cincinnati Las Vegas
Cincinnati Orlando
Cincinnati Salt Lake City
Cincinnati Seattle
Detroit Austin
Detroit Charlotte
Detroit Chicago OHare
Detroit Columbus OH
Detroit Denver
Detroit Las Vegas
Detroit Minneapolis/St. Paul
Detroit Newark
Detroit New York JFK
Detroit Orlando
Detroit Philadelphia
Detroit Phoenix
Detroit Pittsburgh
Detroit Portland OR
Detroit Raleigh
Detroit St. Louis
Detroit Salt Lake City
Detroit San Diego
Detroit Seattle
Detroit Tampa
Minneapolis/St. Paul Austin
Minneapolis/St. Paul Charlotte
Minneapolis/St. Paul Columbus OH
Minneapolis/St. Paul Denver
Minneapolis/St. Paul Las Vegas
Minneapolis/St. Paul Newark
Minneapolis/St. Paul New York JFK
Minneapolis/St. Paul Orlando
Minneapolis/St. Paul Philadelphia
Minneapolis/St. Paul Pittsburgh
Minneapolis/St. Paul Portland OR
Minneapolis/St. Paul Raleigh
Minneapolis/St. Paul Salt Lake City
Minneapolis/St. Paul Seattle
New York JFK Austin
New York JFK Denver
New York JFK Las Vegas
New York JFK Orlando
New York JFK Phoenix
New York JFK Portland OR
New York JFK Salt Lake City
New York JFK San Diego
New York JFK Seattle
New York JFK Tampa
Raleigh Orlando
Raleigh Salt Lake City
Raleigh Seattle
Salt Lake City Austin
Salt Lake City Charlotte
Salt Lake City Chicago OHare
Salt Lake City Cincinnati
Salt Lake City Denver
Salt Lake City Las Vegas
Salt Lake City Newark
Salt Lake City Orlando
Salt Lake City Philadelphia
Salt Lake City Phoenix
Salt Lake City Portland OR
Salt Lake City St. Louis
Salt Lake City San Diego
Seattle Cincinnati
Seattle Denver
Seattle Las Vegas
Seattle Orlando
Seattle Phoenix
Seattle Portland OR
Seattle San Diego
Paris CDG Atlanta
Paris CDG Boston
Paris CDG Chicago OHare
Paris CDG Cincinnati
Paris CDG Detroit
Paris CDG Las Vegas
Paris CDG Minneapolis/St. Paul
Paris CDG Newark
Paris CDG New York JFK
Paris CDG Philadelphia
Paris CDG Pittsburgh
Paris CDG Raleigh
Paris CDG Salt Lake City
Paris CDG Seattle
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747-237 Member
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Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 11:54 am Post subject: |
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Delta / Jet Airways expands India codeshare routes in W16
Delta at the launch of winter 2016/17 season is expanding network coverage in India, as DL code will appear on additional 8 routes operated by Jet Airways, to/from Mumbai.
Planned new codeshare routes as follow.
DELTA operated by Jet Airways
Mumbai Coimbatore
Mumbai Goa
Mumbai Jaipur
Mumbai Kozhikode
Mumbai Mangalore
Mumbai Pune
Mumbai Thiruvananthapuram
Mumbai Vadodara
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15a Member
Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 271 Location: Bangalore
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Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 4:14 pm Post subject: 9w expands AUH service |
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http://m.indiablooms.com/finance-details/5762/jet-airways-expands-india-uae-services.html
From 15th Jan 2017 2nd daily DEL AUH, from 1st Feb 1 daily TRZ AUH and later in 2017 1 daily Kannur AUH and IXC AUH
Detail on Flights not available yet
Edit : Flights available for sale.
9W 212 DEL 17:45 20:10 AUH
9W 211 AUH 08:45 13:30 DEL
9W 215 AUH 21:40 03:10 TRZ
9W 216 TRZ 04:10 07:10 AUH
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abhijith16 Member
Joined: 14 Sep 2010 Posts: 1575 Location: DOH/IXE/MEL
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Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 4:27 pm Post subject: Re: 9w expands AUH service |
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15a wrote: | http://m.indiablooms.com/finance-details/5762/jet-airways-expands-india-uae-services.html
From 15th Jan 2017 2nd daily DEL AUH, from 1st Feb 1 daily TRZ AUH and later in 2017 1 daily Kannur AUH and IXC AUH
Detail on Flights not available yet |
Surprising as hell! 0 schedules/bookings whatsoever! Did Gaurang accidentally step on the PR machine again?!
EDIT: - It is true. Jet has posted a PR on their website.
I'm assuming the freed up 737 is coming from BOM-JED/BOM-MAA going A330. _________________ <a><img></a> |
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abhijith16 Member
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Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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Update - 9W will end Ahmedabad-Abu Dhabi in favour of Tiruchirappalli-Abu Dhabi. Last flight departs 30JAN. From 01FEB - Etihad will increase Ahmedabad-Abu Dhabi to 2 daily.
Also, effective March 26th - EY will increase Kozhikode-Abu Dhabi to 4 daily. Bookings not yet open for this flight. _________________ <a><img></a> |
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15a Member
Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 271 Location: Bangalore
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Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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abhijith16 wrote: | Update - 9W will end Ahmedabad-Abu Dhabi in favour of Tiruchirappalli-Abu Dhabi. Last flight departs 30JAN. From 01FEB - Etihad will increase Ahmedabad-Abu Dhabi to 2 daily.
Also, effective March 26th - EY will increase Kozhikode-Abu Dhabi to 4 daily. Bookings not yet open for this flight. |
Similarly DEL AUH is replacing MAA AUH from 15th Jan. Dont know if EY is increasing MAA AUH to 4 daily |
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iah87 Member
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Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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EY is taking advantage of EK's absence from the Kozhikode market. 4 dailies!. Also shifting 9W to TRZ is clever as EY is not allowed to operate from TRZ but is allowed from AMD.
But I thought there were overall seat limits for Abu Dhabi, so EY must not have reached its limit yet. |
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abhijith16 Member
Joined: 14 Sep 2010 Posts: 1575 Location: DOH/IXE/MEL
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Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 8:38 pm Post subject: |
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15a wrote: | abhijith16 wrote: | Update - 9W will end Ahmedabad-Abu Dhabi in favour of Tiruchirappalli-Abu Dhabi. Last flight departs 30JAN. From 01FEB - Etihad will increase Ahmedabad-Abu Dhabi to 2 daily.
Also, effective March 26th - EY will increase Kozhikode-Abu Dhabi to 4 daily. Bookings not yet open for this flight. |
Similarly DEL AUH is replacing MAA AUH from 15th Jan. Dont know if EY is increasing MAA AUH to 4 daily |
Nope, EY is only retaining frequency for AMD at the moment. _________________ <a><img></a> |
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abhijith16 Member
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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2016 9:04 am Post subject: |
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me111993 wrote: |
2X DEL SIN/HKG/DMM - 333
Interesting times indeed. |
As speculated before -
Jet Airways upgauges 3 existing A330-200 routes to A330-300 effective 15JAN
* 9W18/17 Delhi-Singapore-Delhi
* 9W78/77 Delhi-Hong Kong-Delhi
* 9W568/567 Delhi-Dammam-Delhi
This is an increase of 280 seats per week _________________ <a><img></a> |
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Karan69 Member
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Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2016 11:50 pm Post subject: |
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it seems a lot of the senior 330 pilots being idle were put in management
And now they are ensuring [rightfully so ] a lot better utilisation of the 330s
I guess they finally realised one makes money by flying planes not by parking them |
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abhijith16 Member
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Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2016 4:51 pm Post subject: |
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Delta/Virgin to expand codeshare partnership with Jet Airways
Beginning November 2, 9W will place codeshare on Delta's flights from London-Heathrow to Atlanta, Boston, Detroit, Minneapolis, New York, Philadelphia, Portland, Salt Lake City and Seattle.
Then later, in 2017 and subject to Governmental approals, Jet will place codeshare partnerships on Virgin Atlantic flights to the US. These codeshares will be on 10 cities, which includes Miami, Newark, San Francisco and Washington DC.
https://buyingbusinesstravel.com/news/3126417-delta-and-virgin-expand-jet-airways-codeshare-deals _________________ <a><img></a> |
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iah87 Member
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Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2016 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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abhijith16 wrote: | Delta/Virgin to expand codeshare partnership with Jet Airways
Beginning November 2, 9W will place codeshare on Delta's flights from London-Heathrow to Atlanta, Boston, Detroit, Minneapolis, New York, Philadelphia, Portland, Salt Lake City and Seattle.
Then later, in 2017 and subject to Governmental approals, Jet will place codeshare partnerships on Virgin Atlantic flights to the US. These codeshares will be on 10 cities, which includes Miami, Newark, San Francisco and Washington DC.
https://buyingbusinesstravel.com/news/3126417-delta-and-virgin-expand-jet-airways-codeshare-deals |
I don't know what good these codeshares are. I never found Jet to be competitive and this is no better than interlining, Jet already has interline arrangements with United also. The same issue with Delta codeshares to Indian cities. Many of them require long layover in BOM. Not sure if DL codeshares from DEL. |
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sumantra Member
Joined: 28 Oct 2007 Posts: 4685 Location: New Delhi
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Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 9:25 am Post subject: |
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iah87 wrote: | I don't know what good these codeshares are. I never found Jet to be competitive and this is no better than interlining, Jet already has interline arrangements with United also. | Earning and burning FFP points, seamless respect of status and privileges as far as possible, for starters? Interlining only allows seamless baggage transfer and boarding passes across flights, without the passenger having to re-check in, and take luggage in and out. Sometimes, a code-share also gets a better fare bracket (sometimes, `telescopic fares') for a loyal passenger (and sometimes not, as well). IMHO Jet are doing quite well, here.
Cheers, Sumantra. |
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