Airliners-India.com Flickr Group & Facebook    FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  4 engines 4 long haul - DFW to BOM on A343 & B747          Airliners-India.com Forum Index -> Trip Reports View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message ameya Member Joined: 09 May 2007 Posts: 3671 Location: Pune,Maharashtra Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 3:12 pm    Post subject: 4 engines 4 long haul - DFW to BOM on A343 & B747 The images & video are available on the blog Some pictures and information on my visit to Founders Plaza - DFW can be found here It was time to head back home with two more flights and a good 5 hour layover in Frankfurt. There were chances of the trip getting extended by a few days, which were successfully thwarted & threat of Lufthansa pilots being on strike, which thankfully did not happen. While the onward journey was booked in fare class Y, the return was in L. Not only did it mean lower miles, it also meant pre booking a seat would cost INR2100 onwards. I was expecting both flights to be relatively empty since they are midweek and glad I was not wrong at this. This report will cover two flights, an A340-300 between Dallas & Frankfurt and B747-400 between Frankfurt & Mumbai. Airbus A340 has always been on my wish list and one of my favorite aircraft, since I saw the A345 (Leadership) in 2004 in Singapore. I flew the A346 last summer from Delhi, and I doubt I would ever get to fly the A345. Dallas Stay The stay was short, of which I spent the Sunday going to Founders plaza and overall it wasn’t a pleasant experience since the downtown was closed and the usual elements in full form. America seriously needs to look at these security and social problems first before dealing with world security. America is indeed known for its Marketing – with the hotel having the waffle maker which would make waffles in the shape of Texas. Web-Check in Web check-in opened up over 24 hours ago and I was quick to select seat 19A & 19C. I did not mind being seated on the wing for the A340 and enjoy the view. The check-in for the next segment opened up a little later and I selected 44A & 44C for FRA-BOM sector, hoping that the middle seat would be empty, this being a mid-week flight. With this, started my quest of predicting the aircraft, which I was tracking for the last few days. Code: 438/439 DFW-FRA Prev. sector Airfleets Planespotters 7-Sep D-AIFE PHL 44/222 8/48/165 8-Sep D-AIGL IKA 42/225 8/48/165 9-Sep D-AIGS DXB 8/36/197 8/48/165 10-Sep D-AIGM KUL 42/225 8/36/197 11-Sep D-AIFE BKK 44/222 8/48/165 12-Sep D-AIGI DXB 44/222 44/222 13-Sep D-AIFC IAD 44/222 8/36/197 14-Sep D-AIGX SHE 42/225 8/36/197 15-Sep D-AIGZ DXB 44/222 8/36/197 16-Sep D-AIGU KUL 44/222 8/36/197 17-Sep D-AIFC BKK There always is some method in madness and the way these aircraft are rotated, looked like the bird operating to BKK would operate to DFW. A quick check on the Frankfurt airport website confirmed this and obviously I was elated! Similar method in madness did not exist for the BOM rotation, probably due to more number of B744s in the fleet. The popular websites, like Planespotters and Airfleets had conflicting information on the seating configuration of the A343s as well as B744 for Lufthansa and this was surprising. The Lufthansa website continued to say that the aircraft operating this sector is a two class configuration and so was the case on the day of flight. Day of departure & Flight We reached the airport well in time for the 1555 departure. Lufthansa operates out of Terminal D and our gate for the day was D-7. As we entered the terminal at 1255, the counters were already open. Lufthansa flies only to FRA and not MUC and none of its sister carriers like Swiss operate flights to DFW. The entire check-in & baggage drop process was quick and hassle free. Few steps away, a long line was forming for security which was a messed up affair. As I joined the line, the TSA staff kept yelling on people to remove shoes. Suddenly, the TSA staff stopped security and decided to re arrange the tables near the x-ray machine. Once this re-arrangement was done, security started again and the line moved. Once on the other side, it was time to explore the terminal, shop, eat and take pictures. My colleague & I had lunch at TGI Fridays and I headed out for some spotting and had a great time. DFW – Terminal D is good, with a lot of options for shopping, food and large areas near and away from the gate where one can seat with Television sets and chargers. As we made our way towards our gate at 1500, KLM was boarding for Amsterdam, operated by A330 on the gate next to us. Lufthansa, got people to stand in line behind a board, which denoted their zone and released people accordingly. Boarding was complete for a not so full flight and we were ready to depart at 1535. The seat was fantastic and the leg room was much more than that on the other Lufthansa flights I have been so far. There was a long wait for pushback since the Quantas B747 was pushed back and parked away from the gate and was followed by pushback of KLM A330, after which our bird was pushed back. The pilot came on PA to inform us that there is construction work happening around and we would be pulled by the vehicle for a certain distance before we could be on our own power. Soon the four CFM engines powered up one by one, as we made a long taxi across terminal B, crossing the International Parkway over the bridge and next to the General Aviation terminal and coming to a halt on taxiway EG as aircraft after aircraft landed. Next to us was a beautiful MD – 83 was next to us. A line of aircraft formed, as the pilot came on PA and informed that there is communications failure in the DFW tower and hence all take-offs are on hold. Soon, we were on runway 17R and powered up for a take off towards the north and banked left, climbing for the next 35 minutes to stabilize at FL350. As I started exploring my IFE, I realized that the movies on my IFE were lesser than that of my colleagues IFE on seat 19C. This was surprising and unheard off. I requested the crew to re-set this as the crew was surprised too. A few crew members came to see this phenomenon, which I assume that they had seen for the first time too. Service was good, quick & efficient. Dinner & Breakfast would be served on the flight. I started with two good of Finlanda and chose the veg pasta option which was delicious. The rest of the flight was uneventful. The galley had biscuits & juice/water available all throughout. Breakfast came in about an hour and a half before landing at Frankfurt. The breakfast which comprised of Omelets, potato wedges, chopped Onion & Tomato wasn’t really the best of food I had on this trip.Trays were quickly cleared and we started our descent into Frankfurt. A few twists and turns later, I realized that this looked like a different approach and indeed it was since we landed on runway 07 L and had a long taxi to one of the gates in B zone. Thankfully for us, as we deplaned, there were people around who kept asking if our connecting flight is from Zone B to which I nodded and without checking the boarding pass for the next flight, we were let in, into the B zone. A lot of time was spent at the McDonalds sitting near the windows, giving good view of the runway. My colleague ordered coffee in Hindi –“ Do cappuchino dena” which received blank stares. This was followed by me putting in Salt instead of sugar in the coffee! Looks like we were Jet lagged already! As I kept tracking the incoming bird from Buenos Aires, I realized that the gate would be revised from B25 to B45 and so it was. The Google now service was updated before the FIDS as we made our way to B45 and waited. The aircraft was cleaned and loading had started within minutes of the entire cargo of the previous flight being unloaded. Boarding was unruly, as expected and we settled into our seats on this 22 year old bird, the age was showing when I took a look at the overhead bins. The seats however were new and similar to those on the B748i. I asked the crew if the boarding was complete just to check if the middle seat would be empty and came to know that 100 seats are empty in economy. I was certain that we would have this seat empty and so it was. We had a delayed push back and a taxi to runway 18, where we made a powerful take off and climbed on to our cruising altitude of FL350. It was cloudy and that was a dampener since I could not see traffic around. Service would be Lunch and Light dinner before landing. Service started with drinks cart, followed by Lunch in which the only option was AVML – the Asian veg meal, since they had ran out of chicken options. For this flight, there was no snack in the galley , only water and juice. The flight was uneventful again, with the light dinner service starting an hour and a half before scheduled landing time. The options were Chicken or Veg Roll. I opted for Chicken and it was delicious. I decided to watch the movie – Queen, and as I was about to enjoy the scene where the actress boards a B777, push back with A320 and take off with A380, the scene was completely deleted. Guess it was due to the airline being a competitor – Air France! The pilot came on PA announcing that we would touch down at 1255 hours and made a superb landing on runway 27 at Mumbai. It was memorable to see the flaps extended fully on the mighty B747-400. We taxied to one of the gates at T2 and I was excited to be here for the first time. Next to us was South African A340. The crew had not uplifted the customs cards for this flight and that meant filling them up on ground. Surprisingly we were not asked for the custom cards and the constable at the gate only checked if we were on the Lufthansa flight, after nodding, he let us go. T2 is nicely done, including the area which is like a museum as we walk from the gate to immigration, which itself is housed in a large hall, which is well lit and controlled well. Both immigration & customs was a breeze with the only bottle neck being baggage claim which took 40 minutes. The first bag was on the belt, 25 minutes after we landed, by when we were already at the belt. Headed out to Pune and this journey seemed longer than the flight! Aircraft Details DFW-FRA D-AIFC / A340-300 / Gander & Halifax / Delivered – Jan’01 STD: 1555, ATD: 1550 STA: 0850, ATA: 0855 On-Time: 5/5 (Pushed back on time, but delayed due airport issues) Website &Check-in: 4/5 Check-in & airport experience: 4/5 Aircraft Cleanliness: 4/5 In-flight experience: 4/5 Food: 4/5 Alighting & Arrival experience: 4/5 FRA-BOM D-ABVN / B747-400 / Dortmund / Delivered - May 1992 STD: 1330, ATD: 1350 STA:0100, ATA: 0055 On-Time: 4/5 Website &Check-in: 4/5 Check-in & airport experience: 4/5 Aircraft Cleanliness: 4/5 In-flight experience: 3/5 Food: 3/5 Alighting & Arrival experience: 4/5 Code: _________________ www.networkthoughts.com Back to top sumantra Member Joined: 28 Oct 2007 Posts: 4685 Location: New Delhi Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 7:14 pm    Post subject: Ameya Sir, I've been waiting to read this TR ever since my mailbox announced them, and a casual look at the AI.net website told me that that there was not one, but there were two TRs waiting for me. The excitement was more after our long gchat a while back, when all this discussion about food: sAmbhar, AmTI and masALA chAhA made with gAyIchI dUdh put my stomach into a frenzy, and I just had to eat something. That delayed my reading, but enhanced it significantly since I raided the larder, and came up with some sinful goodies (which I could manage, as The Wife had gone out, and Junior was in a good mood, not to report it to Mummy). I'll go sequentially. Founders Plaza at Dallas Fort Worth - Every aviation enthusiasts dream Indeed, it looks like what your title suggests. Shade, maps, water, washroom, ATC loudspeaker: are there too many places which are this spotter-friendly? You captured some lovely traffic here. I am also sure you would have missed a bigger lens here! It feels nice to be so close to the action. 4 engines 4 long haul - DFW to BOM on A343 & B747 Interesting adaptation of the Virgin tag-line to something which is becoming a rarity: 4-engine long travel on two planes which are gradually getting replaced, in many airlines. Hmm...street food in Dallas, please pardon my ignorance, but what was this item? Please also pardon my ignorance on this (and more so, since you say that the LH site and the airfleets/planespotters information do not match), but you really seem to want your colleague to be away from you on the A343 Isn't it a 2-4-2, so 19C would actually be the second aisle seat on the row? Nice DFW pictures. Yes, I reiterate, Finlandia is a nice Vodka The `do cappucino denA' and salt in place of sugar were hilarious, but it must not have felt so, at that time. Nice reflection picture of the A343, and great spotting pictures from FRA, of the airport in action. Nice take on the `Queen' movie part. The meal looks sinfully greasy, but i guess the taste would have made up for other inadequacies. Good that you got to experience BOM T2 arrivals for the first time. My TR backlog is huge, but I will put up a report on both the arrivals plus the departure part, for my recent AI 102-101 DEL-BOM-DEL trips. The last picture in your TR tugs at the heart of every aviation enthusiast: the post-trip tag and memorabilia stack-up! Thanks for taking time out to post these two lovely reports. Cheers, Sumantra. Back to top ameya Member Joined: 09 May 2007 Posts: 3671 Location: Pune,Maharashtra Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 9:08 am    Post subject: Thanks Sumantra Sir for the reply. I guess we aviation enthusiasts start liking the aircraft more and more as it nears the end of its service life and that’s how I am liking the B747 these days. The A340 on the other hand, not only is my favorite but I like the A330/340 family for the seating comfort which none of the others give due to its 2-4-2 seating. Street Food in Dallas – This item was named Chicken Yo, and was a lot of nicely cooked chicken in bread with a lot of different flavors and sauce. The taste was good! 19C is actually the second seat. It was AC-DEFG-HJ Looking forward for your TR ! or set of TRs !! _________________ www.networkthoughts.com Back to top jbalonso777 Member Joined: 05 Jul 2012 Posts: 1501 Location: Never, never land Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 10:23 am    Post subject: AmJ, thank you so much for yet another great TR! Glad you finally got on the A343, hopefully that happens to me too....sooner than later, before they are completely extinct. Pictures didn't load for me, please do not scratch your head, I've eaten all my internet up LH seems to be a decent airline, but my fear of meal quality was confirmed when you described it...I think its the same for all Euro/North American airlines. If all goes well, I will be going somewhere for University next year, and according to current fares, LH are in the low-mid price range, BA being cheapest. I would love to be on a B747 once again, the TPE-HKG flight was too short! (TR coming this weekend ) Thank you for sharing this with us! Regards Jish _________________ http://www.youtube.com/c/JishnuBasu777 Back to top sumantra Member Joined: 28 Oct 2007 Posts: 4685 Location: New Delhi Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 2:07 pm    Post subject: ameya wrote: I guess we aviation enthusiasts start liking the aircraft more and more as it nears the end of its service life and that’s how I am liking the B747 these days. Not quite with me, Sir. I never really liked the B747, in general. My only wish-list is to be on the refurbished AI B744s. I always found the long-haul narrowbodies, and tri-holers more interesting, always. I always liked the A300. I was never fond of the old double-bogey A320s, it is just that I like the new Flying Swan livery, and the fact that they are really maintained well from the inside, now-a-days. That was rarely the case in the past: the good maintenance from the inside. ameya wrote: Street Food in Dallas – This item was named Chicken Yo, and was a lot of nicely cooked chicken in bread with a lot of different flavors and sauce. The taste was good! Nice! ameya wrote: 19C is actually the second seat. It was AC-DEFG-HJ I wonder why the numbering differs among carriers, for the same aircraft type, and on what basis this goes. ameya wrote: Looking forward for your TR ! or set of TRs !! Thank you Sir, for your constant egging, and encouragement. I have managed to push through one every week for the last few. The one in the works is 64. Coimba-Tour, Jul'13 [& Overheating Ovens] which covers a Jul'13 trip to Coimbatore, and...The Wife's 25 Jul'13 trip of AI 020: the Air India flight where an oven...overheated. Cheers, Sumantra. Back to top ameya Member Joined: 09 May 2007 Posts: 3671 Location: Pune,Maharashtra Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 10:08 am    Post subject: jbalonso777 wrote: AmJ, thank you so much for yet another great TR! Glad you finally got on the A343, hopefully that happens to me too....sooner than later, before they are completely extinct. Pictures didn't load for me, please do not scratch your head, I've eaten all my internet up LH seems to be a decent airline, but my fear of meal quality was confirmed when you described it...I think its the same for all Euro/North American airlines. If all goes well, I will be going somewhere for University next year, and according to current fares, LH are in the low-mid price range, BA being cheapest. I would love to be on a B747 once again, the TPE-HKG flight was too short! (TR coming this weekend ) Thank you for sharing this with us! Regards Jish Thanks Jishnu. Does your exam prep. keep you away from the forum once again during exam season ? I hope not! The B747 indeed is a nice aircraft. It was a sight to see the flaps fully extended before touchdown at BOM, since I had a great view from my seat 44A. I need to check which aircraft has biggest/largest flaps - the B744 seemed massive _________________ www.networkthoughts.com Back to top jbalonso777 Member Joined: 05 Jul 2012 Posts: 1501 Location: Never, never land Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 11:56 am    Post subject: Spot on, Ameya sir: Mid November, I expect to try and stay away from the inter webs, and I will return here with (hopefully) the TR featuring flights to university land But before I go away, I still have to finish the HKG and TPE TR, while also there is a short India trip coming up..so there is still something till then! Regards Jish _________________ http://www.youtube.com/c/JishnuBasu777 Back to top Nimish Member Joined: 16 Dec 2006 Posts: 9757 Location: Bangalore, India Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 12:20 pm    Post subject: Nice TR Ameya - hopefully you'll get frequent enough on *A to enjoy the lounges at FRA! The 330/340 family is a favorite of mine as well - esp. due to the 2-4-2 seating. Luckily at least the 333 seems to be doing well and we'll continue to have the opportunity to fly on the family for the years to come. _________________ We miss you Nalini! Back to top ameya Member Joined: 09 May 2007 Posts: 3671 Location: Pune,Maharashtra Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 12:23 pm    Post subject: Nimish wrote: Nice TR Ameya - hopefully you'll get frequent enough on *A to enjoy the lounges at FRA! The 330/340 family is a favorite of mine as well - esp. due to the 2-4-2 seating. Luckily at least the 333 seems to be doing well and we'll continue to have the opportunity to fly on the family for the years to come. True! for the A330. But I dont think any more are being inducted. As for *A - thats a long way to go. Since with LH its a three tiered system only, I have just crossed half way mark _________________ www.networkthoughts.com Back to top avbuff Member Joined: 22 Dec 2006 Posts: 5031 Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 2:00 pm    Post subject: A very nice TR ameya, it was intriguing to follow every bit of your TR ... well done ... PNQ, MEX, MTY, DFW, FRA, BOM, PNQ .... what ana amzing ride! Lufthansa, despite all odds is popular in pune. Especially Girikand travels Pune, who lieterally shove down LH due to their historic loyalty.. Back to top Karan69 Member Joined: 22 Dec 2006 Posts: 1334 Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 4:08 pm    Post subject: Nice reports AmJo, Enjoyed reading all of them , especially the mexican experiences Karan Back to top ameya Member Joined: 09 May 2007 Posts: 3671 Location: Pune,Maharashtra Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 4:13 pm    Post subject: avbuff wrote: A very nice TR ameya, it was intriguing to follow every bit of your TR ... well done ... PNQ, MEX, MTY, DFW, FRA, BOM, PNQ .... what ana amzing ride! Lufthansa, despite all odds is popular in pune. Especially Girikand travels Pune, who lieterally shove down LH due to their historic loyalty.. Thanks! No Girikand Travel hand in my trip planning I have had little international travel, but Lufthansa has been good on most of the counts. I think with ME3, I can only be sure that there wouldnt be any strikes - unlike European carriers. _________________ www.networkthoughts.com Back to top ameya Member Joined: 09 May 2007 Posts: 3671 Location: Pune,Maharashtra Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 4:19 pm    Post subject: Karan69 wrote: Nice reports AmJo, Enjoyed reading all of them , especially the mexican experiences Karan Thanks! Shared the mexican experience with my office people and asked for more per diem. Bad luck on that front _________________ www.networkthoughts.com Back to top sumantra Member Joined: 28 Oct 2007 Posts: 4685 Location: New Delhi Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 11:29 pm    Post subject: ameya wrote: Shared the mexican experience with my office people and asked for more per diem. Bad luck on that front They gave you a Mexican wave (off)? However...Sombreros off to you, Sir, for raising the issue of a raise. People like Yours Truly try to get more per dime, in the absence of more per diem. It is a distant d(r)iem for me. What about asking for LH, for more per die...t? Cheers, Sumantra. Back to top ameya Member Joined: 09 May 2007 Posts: 3671 Location: Pune,Maharashtra Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 9:52 am    Post subject: The Quantas bird I saw was one of the last B744 flights to DFW. The route is now upgraded to A388 and the longest A380 flight - SYD-DFW ! _________________ www.networkthoughts.com Back to top Nimish Member Joined: 16 Dec 2006 Posts: 9757 Location: Bangalore, India Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 2:05 pm    Post subject: ameya wrote: The Quantas bird I saw was one of the last B744 flights to DFW. The route is now upgraded to A388 and the longest A380 flight - SYD-DFW ! Err - Qantas, not Quantas ! And they're advertising it as the world's longest route altogether - is that really the case? Still amazing to see what a good hub and partnership can do, earlier QF relied entirely on LAX for American connections, but found that pax preferred the much shorter domestic connections via DFW. _________________ We miss you Nalini! Back to top Spiderguy252 Member Joined: 10 Aug 2007 Posts: 4259 Location: Indian Ocean Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 2:38 pm    Post subject: Nice TR. Loved the shot of the mirror image of the 747 on the glass terminal! _________________ Yeah. Back to top ameya Member Joined: 09 May 2007 Posts: 3671 Location: Pune,Maharashtra Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 2:43 pm    Post subject: Nimish wrote: ameya wrote: The Quantas bird I saw was one of the last B744 flights to DFW. The route is now upgraded to A388 and the longest A380 flight - SYD-DFW ! Err - Qantas, not Quantas ! And they're advertising it as the world's longest route altogether - is that really the case? Still amazing to see what a good hub and partnership can do, earlier QF relied entirely on LAX for American connections, but found that pax preferred the much shorter domestic connections via DFW. Thanks! for the correction. Qantas - yes, thats what it is ! I was reading some article which said that this is the longest followed by one of Delta from JNB to ATL which is 77L I am assuming that this route of Qantas will have load penalty _________________ www.networkthoughts.com Back to top ameya Member Joined: 09 May 2007 Posts: 3671 Location: Pune,Maharashtra Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 2:44 pm    Post subject: Spiderguy252 wrote: Nice TR. Loved the shot of the mirror image of the 747 on the glass terminal! Err... that was of A343 _________________ www.networkthoughts.com Back to top Spiderguy252 Member Joined: 10 Aug 2007 Posts: 4259 Location: Indian Ocean Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 2:51 pm    Post subject: ameya wrote: Spiderguy252 wrote: Nice TR. Loved the shot of the mirror image of the 747 on the glass terminal! Err... that was of A343 So it was - sorry for the typo! Guess who's gotten confused between the two 4-engined birds already. _________________ Yeah. Back to top Theairplaneguy4ever Member Joined: 26 Sep 2012 Posts: 191 Location: Kochi, Kerala, India Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 10:16 am    Post subject: Thanks for posting this TR, Ameya sir! I really enjoyed reading it, particularly the informative style! Glad to see you got the A340, I'm still waiting on flying one. Great pictures and videos from DFW. May I ask why it is that the MD80 takeoff late and then climb like a rocket? All the flights I've been on have had a slight gradual slope. I find it strange that they ran out of the chicken option and & only the veg meal was left. Isn't the opposite supposed to happen on India bound flights? Well, anyway the food looks good so I guess that's fine! Cheers! Aditya Theairplaneguy4ever _________________ India's first HD Video Trip Report Channel : www.youtube.com/Theairplaneguy4ever Back to top ameya Member Joined: 09 May 2007 Posts: 3671 Location: Pune,Maharashtra Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2014 10:25 am    Post subject: Thanks Aditya for the kind words 1. MD-80 series being late in take off then going up like a rocket is probably due to its CG - a combination of T tail, rear engines and wing design 2. I thought the same about Chicken Option, but looks like they carry a lot less Chicken options and large number of veg options these days! My bad luck, people before me choose chicken in large numbers _________________ www.networkthoughts.com Back to top ameya Member Joined: 09 May 2007 Posts: 3671 Location: Pune,Maharashtra Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 4:09 pm    Post subject: Lufthansa confirmed that IFE was different on two adjacent seats and credited 7000 miles in my M&M account ! Unfortunately we still do not know what led to this difference in content ! _________________ www.networkthoughts.com Back to top sumantra Member Joined: 28 Oct 2007 Posts: 4685 Location: New Delhi Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 5:57 pm    Post subject: ameya wrote: Lufthansa confirmed that IFE was different on two adjacent seats and credited 7000 miles in my M&M account! 7k miles is a very decent amount, Sir! Back to top ameya Member Joined: 09 May 2007 Posts: 3671 Location: Pune,Maharashtra Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 6:04 pm    Post subject: sumantra wrote: ameya wrote: Lufthansa confirmed that IFE was different on two adjacent seats and credited 7000 miles in my M&M account! 7k miles is a very decent amount, Sir! Award miles, not status miles so does not help me in changing my status. IFE for me in all flights is the window, not the screen, so honestly, I was never bothered with the semi functional IFE _________________ www.networkthoughts.com Back to top sumantra Member Joined: 28 Oct 2007 Posts: 4685 Location: New Delhi Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 6:08 pm    Post subject: ameya wrote: Award miles, not status miles so does not help me in changing my status. Even that is decent, Sir...anything for an award ticket! ameya wrote: IFE for me in all flights is the window ...and in cases, a cat-fight between cabin crew members, as I was witness to once, on a PM-AI flight Cheers, Sumantra. Back to top ameya Member Joined: 09 May 2007 Posts: 3671 Location: Pune,Maharashtra Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 6:12 pm    Post subject: sumantra wrote: ameya wrote: Award miles, not status miles so does not help me in changing my status. Even that is decent, Sir...anything for an award ticket! ameya wrote: IFE for me in all flights is the window ...and in cases, a cat-fight between cabin crew members, as I was witness to once, on a PM-AI flight Cheers, Sumantra. Sir! While we all know you have been on multiple AI flights, I never knew you have been on AI with the PM Jokes Apart ! Would have been interesting. I was on one, in G8. Was fun to watch. _________________ www.networkthoughts.com Back to top sumantra Member Joined: 28 Oct 2007 Posts: 4685 Location: New Delhi Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 6:19 pm    Post subject: ameya wrote: I never knew you have been on AI with the PM Ha ha, they are usually with the Home Minister and Jr, when I have the points! ameya wrote: I was on one, in G8. Was fun to watch. Amazing! G(r)8! We want a TR, Sir! Back to top ameya Member Joined: 09 May 2007 Posts: 3671 Location: Pune,Maharashtra Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 6:57 pm    Post subject: sumantra wrote: ameya wrote: I never knew you have been on AI with the PM Ha ha, they are usually with the Home Minister and Jr, when I have the points! ameya wrote: I was on one, in G8. Was fun to watch. Amazing! G(r)8! We want a TR, Sir! None of the trips covered on duty travel will be documented _________________ www.networkthoughts.com Back to top sukritmunjal Member Joined: 23 Jan 2013 Posts: 178 Location: FMO Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 10:14 am    Post subject: ameya wrote: Award miles, not status miles so does not help me in changing my status. IFE for me in all flights is the window, not the screen, so honestly, I was never bothered with the semi functional IFE That's still 4% of a RTW ticket. I think I should have complained too when I couldn't pull up my stow-away IFE screen on my last BLR-FRA flight. 7000 miles wouldn't have hurt, considering I only got 25% miles credited. Back to top ameya Member Joined: 09 May 2007 Posts: 3671 Location: Pune,Maharashtra Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 10:18 am    Post subject: sukritmunjal wrote: ameya wrote: Award miles, not status miles so does not help me in changing my status. IFE for me in all flights is the window, not the screen, so honestly, I was never bothered with the semi functional IFE That's still 4% of a RTW ticket. I think I should have complained too when I couldn't pull up my stow-away IFE screen on my last BLR-FRA flight. 7000 miles wouldn't have hurt, considering I only got 25% miles credited. My return journey was 25% miles... so this 7000 helps ! _________________ www.networkthoughts.com Back to top stealthpilot Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 2325 Location: BLR, DXB Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2014 1:49 pm    Post subject: A wonderful set of TRs on an exotic trip. It took me a while to get myself to sit down and read but it was well worth it. _________________ eP007 Back to top ameya Member Joined: 09 May 2007 Posts: 3671 Location: Pune,Maharashtra Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2014 7:46 pm    Post subject: stealthpilot wrote: A wonderful set of TRs on an exotic trip. It took me a while to get myself to sit down and read but it was well worth it. 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