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Caliguy
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 Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 11:54 pm Post subject: New Delta BOM-AMS times |
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| Delta changed its BOM-AMS times (assuming because of the added time to avoid Ukraine / Syria etc). Since it arrives latter into BOM, it now leaves 2:20am and arrives AMS at 9:10am. Here's the issue, you now miss AMS's 9-9:30am block of inter europe flights. For many places the next flight is not till noon-2pm. Also just get in so much latter to your final destination. Really sucks. |
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| Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2014 1:29 am Post subject: |
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KLM's departures from AMS to most major European destinations are more or less evenly spaced throughout the day, and not confined to 'banks'. I doubt there will be transit of more than a couple of hours for most places.
And a 9.10 arrival at AMS will connect admirably to the huge US departure bank which starts at 10.00 or so, and that is probably the more relevant one for most of pax originating from India.
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Nimish
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| Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2014 11:52 am Post subject: |
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Could the BOM-AMS retiming be the regular change in timing due to the time zone switch?
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| Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2014 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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| You may be right. End of the month, they change the clocks in Europe, arrival at AMS will be at 8:10 am. |
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The_Goat
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| Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2014 9:34 pm Post subject: |
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Are the other EU carriers doing similar revisions to their departure timings due to the daylight savings time change?
It sounds new to me, although I admit I have never really noticed.
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Caliguy
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| Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2014 11:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Air france remains unchanged. I do this flight every December and have always arrived at 7am connecting to their 9-9:30am Euro bank depending where i spend New Years. First year this issue has happened. |
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Delta Air Lines plans to suspend India services
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25-Nov-2014 5:12 AM
Delta Air Lines plans to suspend India services, with the schedule cancelled in the GDS with effective from 28-Mar-2015, as per a 24-Nov-2014 GDS and inventory timetable display - see Route Changes Table for more information. KLM will likely takeover but that is not yet in the GDS. Delta operates daily Amsterdam-Mumbai service with A330-300 aircraft and KLM operates daily Delhi-Amsterdam service at present, according to OAG. With the departure, United Airlines will be the sole US carrier left in India. |
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Caliguy
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NOOOOO
So with Virgin gone and now Delta, Skymiles is basically worthless to me. The one saving grace of delta was - they could always overbook Delta and put you on the flight is there were issues on award travel. KLM has so little award inventory available for Delta its a joke. Plus the global upgrades don't work (I mean unless you buy a Y,B,M ticket). So bad, so very bad |
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The_Goat
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| Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 7:58 pm Post subject: |
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| Caliguy wrote: | NOOOOO
So with Virgin gone and now Delta, Skymiles is basically worthless to me. The one saving grace of delta was - they could always overbook Delta and put you on the flight is there were issues on award travel. KLM has so little award inventory available for Delta its a joke. Plus the global upgrades don't work (I mean unless you buy a Y,B,M ticket). So bad, so very bad |
Can you not redeem your Skymiles on AF? Or go the western route and use KE?
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| sri_bom wrote: | Delta Air Lines plans to suspend India services
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Some rumour doing the rounds that KL too will drop its AMS-DEL service, and all this will coincide with 9W moving its BRU scissor hub to AMS.
Don't quote me though. Just a rumour....
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Sad to see another US carrier drop out of India - while at the same time they are complaining to the US Govt about the MEB3. If they're not even willing to be in the game, I don't know what they're complaining about! Plus the MEB3 don't even fly to the Skyteam hubs like DTW or ATL.
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| Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 2:24 am Post subject: |
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| Etihad should join skyteam and start service to Atlanta, Detroit and Salt Lake City from Abu Dhabi immediately. |
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| Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
Disastrooooooooooooooooooooooo!
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| Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 10:27 pm Post subject: |
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| jasepl wrote: | Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
Disastrooooooooooooooooooooooo! |
Welcome Back 
A lot us, rather most of us, missed you! Can we please have your comments in another thread which starts with "J"
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| Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2014 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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| jasepl wrote: | Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
Disastrooooooooooooooooooooooo! |
This is horrible, horrible, horrible.
Though I am not totally surprised because the problems DL were having, I am upset like one wouldn't believe.
I see three possible outcomes (and I'm baffled no plans have been publicised yet):
1. The Delta flight is replaced with a KLM flight (ugh - not a fam of KLM at all)
2. A certain whore moves her place of dhandha to AMS from down the road where she currently works (no comment)
3. They do nothing and route all traffic through Paris
No thanks. Never. And oh well.
Though I think CDG's much better to deal with than AMS, a switch of airports won't be the end of the world.
My problem is with Delta going away. They have probably the best overall product between Bombay and Europe, in my experience.
Someone better call Atlanta and make a stink.
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| Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2014 10:03 pm Post subject: |
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^^ How would 9W moving it's hub from BRU to AMS help Skyteam/ DL? Not really until 9W joins Skyteam or DL starts awarding status miles when flying 9W...
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| Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2014 10:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Nimish wrote: | | ^^ How would 9W moving it's hub from BRU to AMS help Skyteam/ DL? Not really until 9W joins Skyteam or DL starts awarding status miles when flying 9W... |
DL awarding status miles is a 15 min job at best. Moving hubs on the other hand may take a shade longer.
btw, welcome back J.
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jasepl
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| Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2014 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Nimish wrote: | | ^^ How would 9W moving it's hub from BRU to AMS help Skyteam/ DL? Not really until 9W joins Skyteam or DL starts awarding status miles when flying 9W... |
Well, it saves them the long tag from AMS. Those are rare these days anyway, save a few niche routes for a handful of airlines.
And if they codeshare on the route, then the status miles thing shouldn't be a problem. On the other hand, even being in the same alliance is no guarantee of earning status points, as we've seen with many airlines.
| me111993 wrote: | DL awarding status miles is a 15 min job at best. Moving hubs on the other hand may take a shade longer.
btw, welcome back J. |
True. But then these two seemed to have had a disagreement in the past, so who knows. If DL hands the decision over to KL though, then things may turn out defferent.
And thanks! I didn't really go anywhere unfortunately, Just was far away from computers.
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| I've flown this route many times and business class was always full - flew to China a few times and it was not - I wonder what motivated Delta to withdraw this route after more than 20 years! Is there a chance they will start non-stop flights from the US in the future. Will KLM replace DL on AMS-BOM instead? |
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| Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2014 12:34 am Post subject: |
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| jasepl wrote: |
My problem is with Delta going away. They have probably the best overall product between Bombay and Europe, in my experience. |
I think you're the only person on the planet who thinks that, but to each his own. |
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| Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2014 9:32 am Post subject: |
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| Jaysit wrote: | | jasepl wrote: |
My problem is with Delta going away. They have probably the best overall product between Bombay and Europe, in my experience. |
I think you're the only person on the planet who thinks that, but to each his own. |
Hahah! That's possible. We all have our own preferences.
That said, I'm not sure if you've flown Delta in J in recent times. They have most definitely improved their offering by leaps and bounds, and their seats, catering and IFE are all up there, if you ask me. The crew have been pretty good too, albeit with a more relaxed (yet professional) service approach than much of the competition.
Between Bombay and Europe, DL business is certainly better than AF, AI, BA and 9W. I haven't flown LH in a long time, so can't really comment. That leaves LX and VS.
I don't think there are any other airlines flying non-stop between Bombay and Europe. Did I miss any?
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| Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 9:44 pm Post subject: |
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Okay, so with such a large gap of no alternatives between the time the discontinuance became known and today, it seems clear that DL aren't replacing the one-stop with anything else and nor are they transferring the route to KL.
Sad as that is, BOM's long-haul situation now is even sadder.
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| Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 3:42 am Post subject: |
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| jasepl wrote: | Okay, so with such a large gap of no alternatives between the time the discontinuance became known and today, it seems clear that DL aren't replacing the one-stop with anything else and nor are they transferring the route to KL.
Sad as that is, BOM's long-haul situation now is even sadder. |
Maybe Air France will upgauge. |
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| Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 5:18 am Post subject: |
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| I think with EK and EY charging $850 for usa-india flights - delta is out for now with af there just to keep skyteam loyalitst that will pay a premium |
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