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PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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BOM is starting to look like Cotonou, Douala, Lagos, Goma or other African airports, with all those stored/junked airplanes gathering dust there.


That was honestly the first thing that came to my mind.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2014 9:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is at least one aircraft still in old Alliance Air colors, as seen at BLR yesterday.



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 6:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Air India's fleet, as seen earlier this morning at BOM ....



BOM is starting to look like Cotonou, Douala, Lagos, Goma or other African airports, with all those stored/junked airplanes gathering dust there.


But far more tragic.

While ADD, LOS, and other African cities have carcasses of DC-8s, 707s and Tu-154s lying around, BOM has relatively new (and perfectly airworthy) aircraft like 744s and 77Ls that are turning into scrap metal because AI is too pathetic to know what to do with them.
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http://centreforaviation.com/news/air-india-group-has-fleet-of-125-aircraft-with-average-fleet-age-of-81-years-320240

Air India Group has fleet of 125 aircraft with average fleet age of 8.1 years

27-Mar-2014

Air India director of finance Srinivasa Venkat, speaking at the CAPA – Airline Fleet and Finance Summit 2014, said (26-Mar-2014) the Air India Group had a total operating fleet of 125 aircraft with average fleet age of 8.1 years as of 28-Feb-2014.

The older of the aircraft type is its four ATRs with an average age of 19.5 years while its youngest fleet is its 13 Boeing 787s with an average age of 0.7 years.

Another 14 787s are in the pipeline to join its fleet, expanding to 27 by 2016. 17 of the 21 737-800s are owned by Air India and used to serve the Gulf, Southeast Asia and Far East destinations.

The 777-300ER are used mainly to serve the US market and the carrier plans to purchase three additional aircraft in 2016. Meanwhile, its two A330s are leased. The A320/A319/A321 fleet were introduced from 2007 to replace ageing fleet. CRJ and ATRs are mainly used to provide connectivity to Far Eastern destinations.

Mr Venkat also said the carrier has decided to add the A340 to its fleet.

Mr Venkat also commented that the carrier’s fleet acquisition plan has not been growing as per its turnaround plan due to market and competition constraints.

Under the carrier’s turnaround plan, Air India is scheduled to take delivery of 17 aircraft in FY2012, 16 in FY2013, 12 in FY2014, 17 in FY2015, 15 in FY2016, 20 in FY2017, 19 in FY2018, and 14 in FY2019.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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http://centreforaviation.com/news/air-india-group-has-fleet-of-125-aircraft-with-average-fleet-age-of-81-years-320240

Air India Group has fleet of 125 aircraft with average fleet age of 8.1 years



That article is the quintessential horns of a buffalo. A point here, a point there and a lot of bull in between!

A340? ATR/CRJ to far eastern destinations???
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http://www.financialexpress.com/news/air-indias-integration-process-on-track-star-alliance/1236268

It appears that AI's entry to Star is proceeding smoothly according to a Star Alliance official. It is not over, until they join, but this time it looks like AI will be Star member, may be as early as July.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Air India Express will be removing four aircraft from the fleet in the Q1 2014, all of which will be going to Air Transat. Tentative dates are :

VT-AXD : 15 Jan 2014
VT-AXE : 05 Feb 2014
VT-AXF : 09 March 2014
VT-AXG : 23 March 2014


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VT-AXD has been withdrawn from AIX fleet and ferried out of BOM to Selangor, Malaysia on return to lessor today.


VT-AXE has been withdrawn from AIX fleet and ferried out of BOM to Selangor, Malaysia on return to lessor today.


And today, VT-AXF.
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Peeved Air India pilots make a beeline for Etihad Airways job

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/business/india-business/Peeved-Air-India-pilots-make-a-beeline-for-Etihad-Airways-job/articleshow/33034209.cms
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Star Alliance refues to put timeline on Air India integration, integration on track
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Star Alliance VP corporate Christian Klick refused to put a timeline to the completion of integration process for Air India, stating only: "Member carriers have to perform all steps in the integration process before the induction is announced. Integration process (with Air India) is on track" (Business Today, 27-Mar-2014). As previously reported, Star Alliance VP corporate communications Christian Klick said Air India’s preparation for integration with Star Alliance network is on track. “Integration of Air India with our network is on track. There are a number of items which need to be implemented when a new member comes on board, that includes integrating with the member-carriers, contractual work among others and this all takes some time,” he said. He continued, "I can say with all conviction that the integration is on track and working well. That's something I can say with full confidence,...Since the last time we worked with Air India, a lot of things have changed within the company... This is an Air India which has done a lot to improve its service levels. It has done a lot in terms of not only the modernisation of the fleet, but also of the whole company. That gave us the confidence to restart the process".
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting to hear all these cagey statements - makes me wonder if AI is again running late on the integration process?
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Air India responds to reports that it has cannibalised a five-year old 777
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Air India responded to reports that it is cannabalising a five-year old Boeing 777 (VT ALH), stating: "Repairs of Engine cowling and randome [sic] are carried out as part of routine maintenance and "Engines have been removed to meet aircraft engine combination and will be installed at the appropriate time" (bangaloreaviation.com, 28-Mar-2014). The carrier also noted: "Out of 5 aircraft planned for sale to Ethihad [sic] airlines 3 have been delivered" and that the "process of delivery of other 2 on the way". The carrier also noted: "VT ALH is standing outside the hangar in view of the space taken by other aircraft" and "This aircraft will be attended after the delivery of the remaining aircraft". It remain unclear whether the aircraft has suffered any damages although it appears that the aircraft has been in storage in Mumbai since 29-May-2012, last operating on 28-May-2012 from London Heathrow to New Delhi. It has been speculated that the aircraft sustained hidden damage during a heavy landing.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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That article is the quintessential horns of a buffalo. A point here, a point there and a lot of bull in between!
ROFLMAO. Too good. Laughing Laughing Laughing Idea
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http://www.mydigitalfc.com/news/air-india-seeks-50m-loan-part-fund-dreamliner-buy-371

Air India seeks up to $50m loan to part-fund Dreamliner buy

Apr 02 2014

Air India Ltd has sought bids from banks to finance up to $50 million for making pre-delivery payments for three Boeing Co 787 Dreamliner planes, according to a tender document released on the state-run carrier's website on Wednesday.

The company said it was scheduled to take delivery of the planes between June and November.

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Air India ordered to reinstate 'overweight' air hostesses by Delhi High Court
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Air India was ordered by Delhi High Court to reinstate three flight attendants dismissed in 2008 for being overweight, with the Court stating the carrier had not “applied its mind” in terminating their services (Times of India/Bloomberg/Live Mint, 03-Apr-2014). Justice Rajiv Shakdher of the Delhi High Court in a 31-Mar-2014 order stated: "It is quite clear that Indian Airlines Ltd has not applied its mind to germane factors before taking a decision to terminate the petitioners' services... The reasons given had no link with the conclusion reached which was to dispense with the services of the petitioners... Accumulated medical wisdom would have us believe that weight brings with it several health related problems... Does excess weight then, necessarily, in every situation, impede optimal performance? I believe the answer to this poser, would have to be in the negative.” The order restores the services of the employees with full back wages from Air India. Lawyers for Air India argued that “pleasing appearance, manners and physical fitness was required” in the travel industry and all crew members were expected to remain smart, alert and energetic.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Air India Express has extended it's existing MAA-KUL to BOM, 4 times a week. This is IX's second international destination from BOM after DOH.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 8:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Air India Express has extended it's existing MAA-KUL to BOM, 4 times a week. This is IX's second international destination from BOM after DOH.


Wasn't IX doing a BOM-PNQ-DXB routing?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 8:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Wasn't IX doing a BOM-PNQ-DXB routing?

Yes it was.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 10:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Wasn't IX doing a BOM-PNQ-DXB routing?

Yes it was.


Not any more, these days AIX 212-211 are linked with each other, so no conxn to BOM
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Wasn't IX doing a BOM-PNQ-DXB routing?

Yes it was.


Not any more, these days AIX 212-211 are linked with each other, so no conxn to BOM


True - that's why it was; as in the past tense, the same as in the question.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 7:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Air India is in the process of developing a new carpet design for its fleet. This design will be proprietary and property of Air India.AI intends to procure 10,000.00 SM of carpet after development and acceptance of production sample.

http://mmd.airindia.co.in/aimmd/tender/new%20design%20carpet%20tenderR1.pdf
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is the 20 aircraft rule for international routes withdrawn? Because, after the VT-AXD to G going out, AIX fleet is < 20 aircraft. How it is still operating?
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Is the 20 aircraft rule for international routes withdrawn? Because, after the VT-AXD to G going out, AIX fleet is < 20 aircraft. How it is still operating?


The rule is meant only for private carriers. Government run entities are exempt from (every) rule.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 3:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Air India is in the process of developing a new carpet design for its fleet. This design will be proprietary and property of Air India.AI intends to procure 10,000.00 SM of carpet after development and acceptance of production sample.

http://mmd.airindia.co.in/aimmd/tender/new%20design%20carpet%20tenderR1.pdf


I'd reckon the carpet is the least of their problems. But then again, thats just me!
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Mr Venkat also said the carrier has decided to add the A340 to its fleet.


Sure, as of the early 2000s - when they had the 343 on their mind.

Horrendous article overall.

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Is the 20 aircraft rule for international routes withdrawn? Because, after the VT-AXD to G going out, AIX fleet is < 20 aircraft. How it is still operating?


The rule is meant only for private carriers. Government run entities are exempt from (every) rule.


I think the rule has been done away with since in any case. Too little too late though, bolting the stable door after the horse has fled.
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I think the rule has been done away with since in any case. Too little too late though, bolting the stable door after the horse has fled.


Has it been removed ? It was proposed but the rule has still yet to be lifted and that includes the 5 year no-international rule.
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One A310 in AI colors is being broken up at BOM, as is the former AI A310 in Aryan Cargo colors.


Air India intends to offer its obsolete A310 inventory for sale on "as is where is" and invites the best and most competitive offer in single bid as per details and terms & conditions below. The obsolete inventory will be disposed off in lots as follows, details of which are as per the attached list :

http://mmd.airindia.co.in/aimmd/tender/Tender%20%20Obsolete%20A310%20inventory.pdf
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Air India proposes 15% pay cut for pilots

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NEW DELHI: Air India has proposed to cut the salary of its pilots by up to 15%, a move that could lead to another round of industrial action just ahead of the coming summer holiday travel season. The largest cut will be for executive commanders of wide body aircraft, with their monthly pay dropping from Rs 8.8 lakh to Rs 7.5 lakh. Fresh co-pilots of wide body aircraft, who are earning Rs 2.3 lakh per month, could get away with a cut of just over Rs 1,000.

While pilots' union has rejected the new structure, the airline management says it has given them 21 days to respond. "The final salary structure will be decided only after consultation with pilots is over. We have limited the cut to 15% and tried to find the least painful way," said an official. Loss-making AI is surviving on taxpayers' money with the government pledging Rs 30,000 equity infusion over the next decade.

The airline has an annual salary bill of Rs 3,200 crore and expects to cut it by Rs 250 crore through a leaner wage structure. Of the total wage bill, pilots get Rs 1,100 crore and AI wants to save Rs 150 crore through the new structure.

However, even the proposed new wage structure will not lead to immediate pay parity between pilots of erstwhile Indian Airlines (narrow body fleet) and Air India (wide body fleet). "We have limited the cut to 15%. Supposing someone's salary was to be cut 20% or 25%, the portion beyond 15% has been termed as 'unabsorbed cost to company'. The future salary hikes or promotion will be adjusted against this unadjusted CTC," said the official.

So, when will pay parity happen? "It will take two to three years under this formula. Ultimately, the only difference between a captain and co-pilot of wide body and narrow body aircraft will be Rs 50,000 and Rs 25,000 per month, which will be the wide body allowance paid over and above a common salary to pilots of bigger planes," said the official.

Meanwhile, pilots have rejected this pay proposal. "Other airlines, both Indian and foreign, pay more to pilots. With this pay structure, the airline management has ensured that AI witnesses an exodus of pilots to other airlines. Tata-Singapore, Tata-AirAsia, Etihad, Emirates and IndiGo are hiring like crazy. Does the management want to have an airline without any good pilots as the best will leave. A pilot of IA and AI flying a plane together will continue to be paid differently for the same work and this is not acceptable," said a pilot.

The Indian Commercial Pilots Association (ICPA) of erstwhile IA pilots is the only pilot union in the airline. The union of AI pilots was disbanded when their pilots went on strike two years back. In a communication to its members, ICPA has rejected the proposed pay structure and vowed it will not accept anything "less than the prevailing market rates". It has called an emergency meeting to decide the future course of action.


http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/business/india-business/Air-India-proposes-15-pay-cut-for-pilots/articleshow/33412290.cms
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Instead of lower salary - won't it be better to ask for higher "productivity". I admit I have no idea what "higher productivity" would mean for AI pilots - but I assume perhaps additional hours or something similar? Lowering a mutually agreed to salary sounds like a stupid move.
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I agree lowering salaries is a bit silly, unless it's a by product of equalising AI/IC pay but nothing else.
WTF is a wide body allowance Rolling Eyes
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Please see The Goat's signature Smile
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http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/news/states/free-baggage-on-air-india-exp/article5901479.ece

Air India Express is allowing free baggage of up to 30 kg for travel on the following Gulf sectors till April 15:
Dubai-Kochi, Thiruvananthapuram; Abu Dhabi-Kochi, Thiruvananthapuram; Sharjah-Kochi, Thiruvananthapuram; Muscat- Kochi, Thiruvananthapuram; Doha-Mangalore, Mumbai; and, Bahrain-Mangalore.
The free baggage for travel from India and on domestic sectors will be 20 kg, press statement said.

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http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/business/india-business/Bank-of-India-loans-200-million-to-Air-India-for-purchase-of-3-Dreamliners/articleshow/33687873.cms

Bank of India loans $200 million to Air India for purchase of 3 Dreamliners

Apr 13, 2014

For the first time, Indian banks have started evincing interest in financing aircraft purchase, with state-run Bank of India (BoI) extending a loan of $200 million to Air India to finance the acquisition of three Dreamliners, official sources said on Sunday.

The national carrier would use the amount to acquire these Boeing 787s before offering them to leasing companies for sale and leaseback arrangement, under which one sells an asset and leases it back, thereby continuing to use the asset but no longer owning it.

BoI has given a stand-alone loan of $200 million for three of these airplanes, the sources said, adding that BoI and the State Bank of India have earlier taken a share of financing aircraft purchase.

Air India has also received a credit of USD 288 million from Standard and Chartered Bank to pay off the bills for the fuel its planes pick abroad, besides purchase of simulators and spare parts, they said.

Almost 70 per cent of an airline's costs are dollar-related since most of the acquisition is carried out from foreign suppliers.

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AI to sell the remaining 777-200LRs .

Air India to sell three Boeing 777s to mop up resources

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Air India on Thursday declared its intent to sell three of its Boeing 777s for mopping up resources to stem its liabilities, barely four months after selling five of these planes to Gulf carrier Etihad Airways.

The airline offered three Boeing 777-200 Long Range airplanes, powered with GE 90-110 engines, for outright sale through competitive global bidding, Air India sources said a day after a meeting of its Board here.
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The three B-777s being sold now have a seat capacity of 238, including eight First Class and 35 Business Class seats.

While the commercial bids for these three five-year-old planes would be opened on May 13, the technical bids would be opened at a later date, the sources said.
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AI to sell the remaining 777-200LRs


Already posted in it's own thread

Air India to sell last 3 x 777-200LRs

http://airlinersindia.s4.bizhat.com/viewtopic.php?t=13729&highlight=
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2014 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello All,

posting after a long time & couldnt help once i saw this usual VJ stunner as the #1 on Anet

Like all his other photos, a Beautiful Composition showing all of AI's Boeing Fleet in 1 photo - shot on AI's first 787 delivery/media day at BOM

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2014 7:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Air India seems to have made changes to it's award redemption charts. Not sure if this is some sort of a promotion or it is to align Flying Returns with other Star Carrier FFP's.

For eg:

Bom-Del one way redemption is now down to 7125 miles from earlier 9500miles in Y and 14250 miles in J from the earlier 19000 miles.

Short sectors like Bom-Goi, Del-Atq etc are down to approx 3300miles from the earlier 5000.

Bom-Aurangabad is now available for only 2600 miles.

Bom-Lhr is down to 18750 from 25000 miles in Y and 37500 miles from earlier 50000 in J.

This now seems to be great redemption chart in comparison to that of 9W with plenty of availability at the moment. Worth having a look and stacking up miles into.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2014 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

theflyingsikh wrote:
Air India seems to have made changes to it's award redemption charts. Not sure if this is some sort of a promotion or it is to align Flying Returns with other Star Carrier FFP's.

For eg:

Bom-Del one way redemption is now down to 7125 miles from earlier 9500miles in Y and 14250 miles in J from the earlier 19000 miles.

Short sectors like Bom-Goi, Del-Atq etc are down to approx 3300miles from the earlier 5000.

Bom-Aurangabad is now available for only 2600 miles.

Bom-Lhr is down to 18750 from 25000 miles in Y and 37500 miles from earlier 50000 in J.

This now seems to be great redemption chart in comparison to that of 9W with plenty of availability at the moment. Worth having a look and stacking up miles into.


those are some incredible redemption vakues thanks for sharing

Karan
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2014 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Karan69 wrote:
theflyingsikh wrote:
Air India seems to have made changes to it's award redemption charts. Not sure if this is some sort of a promotion or it is to align Flying Returns with other Star Carrier FFP's.

For eg:

Bom-Del one way redemption is now down to 7125 miles from earlier 9500miles in Y and 14250 miles in J from the earlier 19000 miles.

Short sectors like Bom-Goi, Del-Atq etc are down to approx 3300miles from the earlier 5000.

Bom-Aurangabad is now available for only 2600 miles.

Bom-Lhr is down to 18750 from 25000 miles in Y and 37500 miles from earlier 50000 in J.

This now seems to be great redemption chart in comparison to that of 9W with plenty of availability at the moment. Worth having a look and stacking up miles into.


those are some incredible redemption vakues thanks for sharing

Karan



These seem to be valid till 31st May, basically 25% off on all flights

Karan
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2014 11:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Only in AI...

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/business/india-business/Oxygen-cylinder-empty-Air-Indias-Frankfurt-Delhi-flight-delayed-by-24-hours/articleshow/34280564.cms

An unserviceable oxygen bottle on an aircraft has cost Air India dearly and led to a delay of over 24 hours for the 245 passengers who were to fly from Frankfurt to Delhi on Friday night. Since the Dreamliner (VT-AOG) could not take off without this vital emergency equipment, all the flyers were put up in an expensive Frankfurt hotel.

Was the empty bottle detected only in Frankfurt? If so, did the a/c fly from DEL to FRA with an empty bottle? or was the bottle used enroute?
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