Airliners-India.com Flickr Group & Facebook    FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  Jet Airways News -- Part 12 Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10  Next          Airliners-India.com Forum Index -> Civil Aviation View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message 747-237 Member Joined: 11 Jun 2007 Posts: 11349 Location: Gordon Gekko's Boardroom Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 6:23 am    Post subject: Incident: Jet Airways B773 over Germany on Mar 13th 2014, loss of communication A Jet Airways Boeing 777-300, registration VT-JEG performing flight 9W-117 from London Heathrow,EN (UK) to Mumbai (India), was enroute at FL330 over Netherlands being handed off to Germany near Münster (Germany), when Maastricht Upper Area Control informed Germany's DFS at 23:01L (22:01Z) that voice communication with the aircraft had been lost. Germany's DFS contacted Germany's Luftwaffe at 22:05Z, however, no fighter aircraft were dispatched to intercept the aircraft because of positive radar contact and the aircraft following its planned flight track and remaining within clearance. About 22 minutes later radio contact was re-established and the aircraft continued to Mumbai for a safe landing without further incident. Germany's DFS confirmed they were notified by Maastricht Upper Area Control, serving the upper airspace of 4 countries, at 22:01Z that radio contact with 9W-117 had been lost, DFS notified Luftwaffe at 22:05Z. They did not report/complain to India's DGCA. The incident was handled according to standard operating procedures, there was no panic. Germany's Luftwaffe reported, no fighter aircraft were dispatched as there was positive radar contact, the flight continued to track the planned flight trajectory and remained within clearances. Radio contact was re-established at 23:23L (22:23Z). Germany's BFU stated, they have not received any report of this occurrence until noon today (Apr 10th 2014). Jet Airways stated: "The Jet Airways flight 9W 117 was between London and Mumbai where communication was lost over German airspace as the crew overlooked increasing the speaker volume after removing the headphones. This was investigated by the Regulator and the pilots were off flying for two weeks. Based on the investigation report, Jet Airways has ensured strict disciplinary action towards the concerned pilots. The report has been sent to the German authorities for closure." So far The Aviation Herald has not received a statement from Eurocontrol (Maastricht Upper Area Control). The "Indian Express" reported under the headline "Jet flight ‘vanished’ for 30 mins over Germany" (with almost all media in India mirroring that report) that Germany's DFS reported the aircraft missing and panicked over total loss of contact for 30 minutes assuming a scenario like MH-370, that had happened just 5 days earlier. DFS subsequently is reported to have complained to India's DGCA. The Indian Express then quotes Jet Airways explaining the incident that both pilots took off their headphones but forgot to adjust the volume of the cockpit loudspeakers resulting in a loss of radio communication. _________________ 11000 posts (and counting) on Airliners-India. Back to top ameya Member Joined: 09 May 2007 Posts: 3671 Location: Pune,Maharashtra Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 10:57 am    Post subject: Re: 9W domestic changes from 21st April 15a wrote: The big change is the end of the Central India milk runs. There were 2 ATR aircraft doing AMD-BHO-RPR-BHO-AMD-JAI-IXC-JAI-AMD and AMD-IDR-PNQ-IDR-JAI-IDR-PNQ-IDR-AMD Both these aircraft and their routes are gone. 1 ATR moves to HYD to do HYD-PNQ-IDR-PNQ-HYD-PNQ-IDR-PNQ-HYD 1 ATR moves to CCU and does 3 daily CCU-GAU PNQ-HYD moves to 3 daily ATR PNQ IDR stays at 2 daily CCU-GAU moves to 3 daily ATR+1 daily 737 from 3 daily 737 CCU-IXA gets an additional flight to 2 daily 737 CCU-PAT gets an additional ATR service to go 2 daily Further MAA-PNQ-MAA is also gone from the same day. Aircraft appears to be deployed to do an additional MAA-HYD-MAA rotation in the morning. DEL PNQ remains 3 daily and all 3 flights appear to be turnaround flights from DEL (the earlier rotation I think was MAA-PNQ-DEL and vv) I am surprised that the morning 0745 dep to DEL is withdrawn. It did very well, now AI and SG will make a killing. 0740 AI and 0720 SG Back to top 747-237 Member Joined: 11 Jun 2007 Posts: 11349 Location: Gordon Gekko's Boardroom Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 11:13 am    Post subject: ETIHAD Expands Codeshare Service With Jet Airways Beyond India from late-April 2014 ETIHAD from 19APR14 expands codeshare operation with Jet Airways, which sees “EY” code being placed on Jet Airways service beyond India. Planned codeshare routes as follow. ETIHAD operated by Jet Airways Delhi – Hong Kong Mumbai – Hong Kong Currently, ETIHAD offers following codeshare service options to/from Hong Kong: Air Seychelles Abu Dhabi – Hong Kong Garuda Indonesia Jakarta – Hong Kong Korean Air Seoul Incheon – Hong Kong Malaysia Airlines Kuala Lumpur – Hong Kong SriLankan Airlines Bangkok – Hong Kong Source: Airlineroute.net _________________ 11000 posts (and counting) on Airliners-India. Back to top me111993 Member Joined: 04 Sep 2009 Posts: 3225 Location: MAA/AMD Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 1:58 pm    Post subject: 9W 77Ws on BOM/DEL-BRU from Start May to end June. BRU-YYZ/EWR stay 333 ops. DEL-HKG - daily 332 service in that period BOM-HKG 4 weekly 332 / 3 weekly 77W in that period. _________________ Causal Determinism : We are hardwired to need answers. The Caveman who heard a rustle in the bushes and checked out to see what it was, lived longer than the guy, who assumed it was just a breeze. - Greg House Back to top 747-237 Member Joined: 11 Jun 2007 Posts: 11349 Location: Gordon Gekko's Boardroom Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 11:30 am    Post subject: Jet Airways Reduces Paris Service May/June 2014 Jet Airways has revised planned operations for Mumbai – Paris CDG service, due to be launched on 14MAY14. The airline will operate 4 weekly service, instead of daily, from 14MAY14 to 25JUN14. It will operate daily service from 26JUN14. 9W124 BOM1200 – 1750CDG 332 x123 9W123 CDG2110 – 0950+1BOM 332 x123 Source: Airlineroute.net _________________ 11000 posts (and counting) on Airliners-India. Back to top justbala Member Joined: 11 Jan 2007 Posts: 1898 Location: Bangalore Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 6:38 pm    Post subject: 9W seems to have doubled the upgrade fee. What used to be 2k on BLR-TRV is now 4k. Also the web check-in is a lot improved now. You can check in using ur FFP or e-ticket number now and the seat layout looks a lot classier now. Plus an ability to email your boarding pass. Back to top 747-237 Member Joined: 11 Jun 2007 Posts: 11349 Location: Gordon Gekko's Boardroom Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 10:43 pm    Post subject: Jet Airways May/June 2014 Brussels Operational Aircraft Changes Jet Airways from 04MAY14 to 14JUN14 is temporary re-introducing Boeing 777-300ER service to Brussels, replacing Airbus A330-200/-300 aircraft. Planned operational schedule as follow. Delhi – Brussels 9W230 DEL0240 – 0755BRU 77W x123 9W230 DEL0240 – 0755BRU 333 123 9W229 BRU1010 – 2145DEL 77W x123 9W229 BRU1010 – 2145DEL 333 123 9W230/229 on selected dates continues to be operated by A330-300, instead of 777-300ER. Mumbai – Brussels 9W228 BOM0205 – 0750BRU 77W x57 9W228 BOM0205 – 0750BRU 333 57 9W227 BRU1010 – 2240BOM 77W x57 9W227 BRU1010 – 2240BOM 333 57 Source: Airlineroute.net _________________ 11000 posts (and counting) on Airliners-India. Back to top 747-237 Member Joined: 11 Jun 2007 Posts: 11349 Location: Gordon Gekko's Boardroom Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 10:55 pm    Post subject: http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/jet-airways-hints-at-737-max-order-398309/ Jet Airways hints at 737 Max order Jet Airways has hinted at an imminent Boeing 737 Max order, and denied suggestions it has cancelled orders for several 737-800s. Indian media reports citing unnamed sources claim the carrier has cancelled orders for 16 737-800s from an order placed in 2012. However, Jet tells Flightglobal this is incorrect and that it has not cancelled its aircraft orders, adding: “The airline has in fact opted for a more fuel-efficient variant.” _________________ 11000 posts (and counting) on Airliners-India. Back to top Nimish Member Joined: 16 Dec 2006 Posts: 9757 Location: Bangalore, India Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 10:07 am    Post subject: 747-237 wrote: Jet Airways from 04MAY14 to 14JUN14 is temporary re-introducing Boeing 777-300ER service to Brussels, replacing Airbus A330-200/-300 aircraft To deal with extra loads? Or the 330s have somewhere else to go to? Don't the 77Ws bring in the complexity of the "Suites" - that need to be sold just on those flights (or go empty)? _________________ We miss you Nalini! Back to top Karan69 Member Joined: 22 Dec 2006 Posts: 1334 Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 2:16 pm    Post subject: I love Lala ji's expression, it says it all karan Back to top HAWK21M Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 8132 Location: Mumbai, INDIA Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 1:33 pm    Post subject: 9W starting to reduce staff....... _________________ Think of the Brighter side !!! Back to top 747-237 Member Joined: 11 Jun 2007 Posts: 11349 Location: Gordon Gekko's Boardroom Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 4:14 pm    Post subject: Jet Airways Expands ETIHAD Codeshare Service from mid-April 2014 Jet Airways on 14APR14 has expanded codeshare operations with ETIHAD, which sees “9W” code appearing on 5 ETIHAD destinations beyond Abu Dhabi. In addition, Jet also placed 9W code on ETIHAD service to Australia. Jet Airways operated by ETIHAD Abu Dhabi – Amsterdam Abu Dhabi – Geneva Abu Dhabi – Johannesburg Abu Dhabi – Nairobi Abu Dhabi – Washington Dulles Singapore – Brisbane (eff 30MAR14) Source: Airlineroute.net _________________ 11000 posts (and counting) on Airliners-India. Back to top abhijith16 Member Joined: 14 Sep 2010 Posts: 1575 Location: DOH/IXE/MEL Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 12:38 pm    Post subject: jasepl wrote: Speaking of Jet's codeshares, what's their rationale behind the destinations they choose? With AF and SN, they codeshare to some out-of-the-way places (for the Indian traveller) like Toulouse and Hamburg. But so many of the big draws are left out, such as Rome / Failano / Zurich / Amsterdam / Dusseldorf etc. With United (which is a complete JetFail of a relationship, but never mind that) they codeshare to such great cities like Charleston / Kansas / Oklahoma / St Louis etc. But have nothing to places like Atlanta / Boston / Dallas / Houston / Miami / Fail York / Philadelphia etc. And not a single codeshare out of UA's Newark hub, which is the only place Jet actually fly to. Is it: a. JetLogic b. "No Need" c. AF/UA etc said they they're already carrying decent traffic between India and these left out places and aren't willing to share? d. Something else. If so, what? They've added more codeshares AMS/TXL/CPH/DUS/GVA/MUC/ARN/STR/VIE/ZRH _________________ <a><img></a> Back to top 747-237 Member Joined: 11 Jun 2007 Posts: 11349 Location: Gordon Gekko's Boardroom Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 3:13 pm    Post subject: Jet Airways Expands AIRFRANCE Codeshare Service from May 2014 Jet Airways is expanding its planned codeshare partnership with AIRFRANCE, as additional 10 routes being added, starting 14MAY14. Total number of codeshare routes operated by AIRFRANCE increases to 22. Newly added codeshare routes as follow. Jet Airways operated by AIRFRANCE Paris CDG – Amsterdam Paris CDG – Berlin Tegel Paris CDG – Copenhagen Paris CDG – Dusseldorf Paris CDG – Geneva Paris CDG – Munich Paris CDG – Stockholm Paris CDG – Stuttgart Paris CDG – Vienna Paris CDG – Zurich (Previously reported codeshare routes) Paris CDG – Barcelona Paris CDG – Birmingham Paris CDG – Dublin Paris CDG – Hamburg Paris CDG – Lyon Paris CDG – Madrid Paris CDG – Manchester Paris CDG – Marseille Paris CDG – Newcastle Paris CDG – Nice Paris CDG – Prague Paris CDG – Toulouse Source: Airlineroute.net Back to top basheer1211 Member Joined: 28 Dec 2012 Posts: 271 Location: India Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 7:16 pm    Post subject: Jet Airways likely to terminate services of contract employees Quote: Jet Airways is likely to reinitiate a move to terminate the services of its contract employees across the country as the airline attempts to cut down the number of flight operations and destinations served by it in the domestic sector. The Naresh Goyal-promoted airline is learnt to have discontinued flights to Vijaywada and Tirupati and has closed down offices in these two destinations. The airline’s Visakhapatnam office is slated to be closed from June. Jet had recently cut down about 15 flights from Kolkata, a station that could see some lay offs. Read more at The Indian Express Back to top iah87 Member Joined: 17 Apr 2007 Posts: 2566 Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2014 1:05 am    Post subject: Is Jet cancelling all Vizag flights then, which includes BOM-VTZ and BLR-VTZ-CCU. They are the only airline offering nonstop between BOM and VTZ now. Back to top 15a Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 271 Location: Bangalore Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2014 9:00 am    Post subject: iah87 wrote: Is Jet cancelling all Vizag flights then, which includes BOM-VTZ and BLR-VTZ-CCU. They are the only airline offering nonstop between BOM and VTZ now. Checking for 1st week July - both flights seem to be zeroed out Back to top basheer1211 Member Joined: 28 Dec 2012 Posts: 271 Location: India Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2014 10:54 pm    Post subject: Etihad audit indicates Jet Airways has 700-employee surplus Quote: The indications are clear that after infusing equity of Rs 2,057 crore in India's second largest commercial airline, Jet Airways, last year, Abu Dhabi-based airline Etihad is tightening its control over the Indian carrier, and scrutinising its cost structure to make it viable. Sources in Jet said that in an audit - now a continuous process, undertaken by Etihad - the Abu Dhabi-based carrier conveyed to Jet that more than 700 of its 10,000-plus employees were surplus. . . . Sources at the airline said that in the wake of the Etihad partnership, Jet Airways will slowly consolidate its domestic operations, and only 30 per cent of its operations will be in the domestic market. It recently curtailed east-bound flights to Kolkata and rationalised its network in Hyderabad, and is now reassessing its Delhi operations. It has also discontinued flights on some routes served by its ATR fleet, such as Vijayawada-Tirupati, a segment that got good loads. Read more at Business Today Back to top jasepl Member Joined: 26 Jul 2008 Posts: 4257 Location: bund-bay Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 11:01 am    Post subject: me111993 wrote: 9W 77Ws on BOM/DEL-BRU from Start May to end June. BRU-YYZ/EWR stay 333 ops. DEL-HKG - daily 332 service in that period BOM-HKG 4 weekly 332 / 3 weekly 77W in that period. Who knows what their reason / excuse is. But, really, they can't even offer a consistent product on a route? For a relatively new, relatively small airline with a miniscule widebody fleet, that is all kinds of retarded. 747-237 wrote: Jet Airways Reduces Paris Service May/June 2014 JetFail even before JetStart? 747-237 wrote: Jet Airways hints at 737 Max order We've heard lots of "hints" about lots of things when it comes to La Pute Nationale, so let's not hold our breaths. That said, this order will be perfect to enhance the carpetbombing of India with shuttle service from Dhabi. 747-237 wrote: Jet Airways Expands AIRFRANCE Codeshare Service from May 2014 Finally a bunch of cities that make sense. Of course, it's Jet, so they're doing this now. Three weeks before launch. And, of course, all along this was a well-planned and flawlessly-executed route launch. A big fat F for JetFail in terms of competence. basheer1211 wrote: Etihad audit indicates Jet Airways has 700-employee surplus Quote: The indications are clear that after infusing equity of Rs 2,057 crore in India's second largest commercial airline, Jet Airways, last year, Abu Dhabi-based airline Etihad is tightening its control over the Indian carrier, and scrutinising its cost structure to make it viable. Sources in Jet said that in an audit - now a continuous process, undertaken by Etihad - the Abu Dhabi-based carrier conveyed to Jet that more than 700 of its 10,000-plus employees were surplus. . . . Sources at the airline said that in the wake of the Etihad partnership, Jet Airways will slowly consolidate its domestic operations, and only 30 per cent of its operations will be in the domestic market. It recently curtailed east-bound flights to Kolkata and rationalised its network in Hyderabad, and is now reassessing its Delhi operations. It has also discontinued flights on some routes served by its ATR fleet, such as Vijayawada-Tirupati, a segment that got good loads. Read more at Business Today What rot. A : Jet will never give up #1 position in the domestic marketplace B : Etti's only giving free money and Jet have full control over everything. Jet will never give up anything to Etihad. C : If any of these do happen, it's all Prafull's fault. And Cinderella's. Not Pet Airways'; never. Pet Airways are incapable of such things. _________________ four years free of jetya punti! Back to top shivendrashukla Member Joined: 21 Dec 2006 Posts: 1354 Location: Mumbai, India Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 7:14 am    Post subject: Flyer takes wrong flight without a boarding pass Quote: MUMBAI: In a bizarre sequence of events that amounts to a serious breach of security, a 37-year old man who did not have an airline boarding pass managed to clear three security checkpoints and fly from Mumbai to Rajkot on a Jet Airways flight last Friday. The man was supposed to take a flight to Nagpur, but boarded the one to Rajkot, that too after leaving behind his boarding pass at the airport. After he reached Rajkot he realized he had flown to the wrong destination and informed Jet officials. The airline remained clueless till then. The incident brings into question the security arrangements at Mumbai airport made by both by the airline and CISF. "Jet officials flew him back to Mumbai and put him on another flight to Nagpur. It is a serious breach of security, the kind that one thinks could never happen," said a source. This man had no business being on the Rajkot flight, but none of the security checks in place zeroed in on him," he added. "We are looking into the matter," said a CISF official. At the time of going to press, Jet was yet to respond. The incident occurred on April 25 after Liju Verghese landed in Mumbai airport from an international flight. He was booked for an onward journey to Nagpur and was supposed to board the 4.11pm Jet Airways flight 9W 2165. Verghese, who was reportedly in an inebriated state, cleared the CISF security check at domestic terminal 1B of the Mumbai airport. With the security-stamped boarding pass and a handbag, he then proceeded to the security hold area to wait for the boarding announcement. Meanwhile, a boarding call was made for the JetKonnect Mumbai-Rajkot flight 9W 4079 scheduled for a 3.25pm departure from gate number A2 of domestic terminal 1C. The passengers were to board the Rajkot flight using an aerobridge. That is when things spiralled into a different direction. "The man left behind his handbag, which also contained his boarding pass and for some reason proceeded to board the flight to Rajkot," said a source. First, he managed to walk past Jet's customer service staff entrusted with what's called "passenger reconciliation". It is a mandatory security procedure done to ascertain whether the number of passengers who check in for a given flight is equal to the number of passengers who have boarded the aircraft. The airline staffers manually check the seat numbers on each boarding pass and tally it with the data they gather from their check-in desks. "That he crossed this security check is surprising. For, this was a passenger who was not supposed to be on that flight and those at this security checkpoint are supposed to spot such cases," said a source. Next, Verghese managed to get past the CISF security personnel who check whether the boarding pass and the tags on the hand baggages of passengers have the CISF's security-cleared stamp. Then, prior to entering the aircraft, Jet's security personnel man the doors to verify whether all passengers are carrying the boarding passes for the right destination, whether their boarding passes and baggage tags carry the CISF security stamp. Verghese crossed that barrier as well. On entering the aircraft Verghese randomly chose a seat and sat down only to be questioned by a passenger who claimed that seat. "He got up and gave the seat to the said passenger. The flight attendant present in the vicinity did not bother to enquire about Verghese's boarding pass to find out his seat number. He was told to occupy any vacant seat available," said the source. Lastly, a head count of passengers is supposed to be taken to tally it with the number of passengers entered in what's called a Load and Trim sheet. It is essentially a register of weights and their location inside an aircraft. It carries details like the total number of people onboard, total baggage weight, weight of fuel uploaded, etc. "While a final headcount is judiciously taken on international flights, on many domestic flights the practice is not diligently followed," said an official. Had a headcount been taken, they would have figured out that flight had one unaccounted passenger on board—a very serious situation from the security point of view. It was after the flight landed and the passenger disembarked and found himself in Rajkot instead of Nagpur that the airline realized what had happened. Meanwhile, the Mumbai-Nagpur flight that he was supposed to board departed, but not before finding out that one passenger who had checked in had not reported for boarding. His check-in bags were removed from the aircraft and left at Mumbai airport for a security check. That was the only thing that went as per the laid-down security norms. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Flyer-takes-wrong-flight-without-a-boarding-pass/articleshow/34304923.cms Back to top HAWK21M Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 8132 Location: Mumbai, INDIA Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 2:08 pm    Post subject: Serious lapse by both CISF and 9w.....but I would not let the pax free without an interrogation esp when he leaves his bag behind and sits in a seat. _________________ Think of the Brighter side !!! Back to top iah87 Member Joined: 17 Apr 2007 Posts: 2566 Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 6:32 pm    Post subject: basheer1211 wrote: Etihad audit indicates Jet Airways has 700-employee surplus Quote: The indications are clear that after infusing equity of Rs 2,057 crore in India's second largest commercial airline, Jet Airways, last year, Abu Dhabi-based airline Etihad is tightening its control over the Indian carrier, and scrutinising its cost structure to make it viable. Sources in Jet said that in an audit - now a continuous process, undertaken by Etihad - the Abu Dhabi-based carrier conveyed to Jet that more than 700 of its 10,000-plus employees were surplus. . . . Sources at the airline said that in the wake of the Etihad partnership, Jet Airways will slowly consolidate its domestic operations, and only 30 per cent of its operations will be in the domestic market. It recently curtailed east-bound flights to Kolkata and rationalised its network in Hyderabad, and is now reassessing its Delhi operations. It has also discontinued flights on some routes served by its ATR fleet, such as Vijayawada-Tirupati, a segment that got good loads. Read more at Business Today I wish some entity does an audit for AI too, they will be find atleast 25% of the employees to be in surplus (compared to Jet which is around 7%). Back to top jasepl Member Joined: 26 Jul 2008 Posts: 4257 Location: bund-bay Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 11:22 pm    Post subject: [quote="iah87"] basheer1211 wrote: Etihad audit indicates Jet Airways has 700-employee surplus Well, if you look at it in terms of expenditure, then Lala-Lali probably add 25% to the waste bill. Throw in all the JethChildren who have a job on paper, but contribute nothing productive. That's another 25% right there. And so forth... _________________ four years free of jetya punti! Back to top 747-237 Member Joined: 11 Jun 2007 Posts: 11349 Location: Gordon Gekko's Boardroom Posted: Thu May 01, 2014 4:09 pm    Post subject: Jet Airways have added a new 737-800 to the fleet today, as VT-JFS. Back to top 747-237 Member Joined: 11 Jun 2007 Posts: 11349 Location: Gordon Gekko's Boardroom Posted: Fri May 02, 2014 6:43 pm    Post subject: http://www.rttnews.com/2313622/jet-air-india-cfo-and-acting-ceo-quits.aspx?type=bn&utm_source=google&utm_campaign=sitemap Jet Air India CFO And Acting CEO Quits 5/2/2014 Jet Airways (India) Ltd. said Ravishankar Gopalakrishnan, Chief Financial Officer and Acting Chief Executive Officer of the company had resigned from the services of the company and accordingly he ceased to be the Chief Financial Officer and Acting Chief Executive of the company effective May 02, 2014. Back to top jasepl Member Joined: 26 Jul 2008 Posts: 4257 Location: bund-bay Posted: Fri May 02, 2014 9:43 pm    Post subject: 747-237 wrote: http://www.rttnews.com/2313622/jet-air-india-cfo-and-acting-ceo-quits.aspx?type=bn&utm_source=google&utm_campaign=sitemap Jet Air India CFO And Acting CEO Quits 5/2/2014 Jet Airways (India) Ltd. said Ravishankar Gopalakrishnan, Chief Financial Officer and Acting Chief Executive Officer of the company had resigned from the services of the company and accordingly he ceased to be the Chief Financial Officer and Acting Chief Executive of the company effective May 02, 2014. I wonder who's going to be the new acting CEO? Please, please, please, please, please, please let it be Anita.... Oh the entertainment! _________________ four years free of jetya punti! Back to top theflyingsikh Member Joined: 08 May 2010 Posts: 551 Location: United Kingdom Posted: Sat May 03, 2014 8:24 am    Post subject: 9W Jai to Bom This one is amazing. Was flying from Jai to Bom in J on the evening 20:55 dept a couple of weeks ago with a friend. Flight was delayed by approx 25 mins pushing back. This wasn't a proper 9W flight but some connect/disconnect, lite/dark flight. As we didn't have any other J options we had to get onto this one. We were sat in 1 D/F on this absolutely new aircraft with sky interior. All good prior to take off cold towel, juice offered. After take off I was informed I wont be given a proper J meal as Bom catering screwed up and the correct number of meals from Bombay weren't loaded and Jaipur does not have catering facilities. All being communicated to me with a very chalta hai attitude. Yet I did say to her no worries. Things do go wrong at times and I will be fine. This was a full flight in both cabins. Later on she fetched me a choice of a veg or non veg sandwich from B.O.B. I chose the non veg and was also given a sad looking make-do salad and a awful dessert. They couldn't even take the effort of plating the sandwich and she literally plonked it on the tray with the card-paper wrapping and was like "Eat this" I am very low demand when flying. All I like to ask is cup of hot hot tea. Which I did get thankfully and it wasn't a paper cup. But the whole experience was very embarrassing as everyone around was seen to be served well. She was more than kind to my friend a white guy. When the bread basket was bought out she offered it to my mate and then moved onto the next pax completely ignoring me. I do enjoy their garlic bread. But no luck tonight : ( Never been treated like this on 9W ever before. It's not about the hot meal it's the attitude baby! On approach into Bombay we circled and circled aimlessly and then diverted to Ahmedabad for whatever reason (never given) Stayed on the ground for a good one hr refuelled and got back to Bombay at about 2:30 am of course on arrival into Bom we were bussed to the terminal. As we all know 9W operates a "Mumbai Tarmac Darshan Tour" and is complimentary when you buy a ticket with them. Of least interest to me at this hr of the morning. But No its a must! Empty aircrafts were occupying the aero-bridges. The poor driver from Sofitel had no clue where his two lovely guest had gone missing. Our phone batteries died on the ground at Amd. Thanks to the cost cutting on this new aircraft there weren't any charging points. Trust my luck all this happening to me on my Birthday lol! A Birthday I really wouldn't like to remember for too long. But I will. I'm never so bitter but this was "EPIC" _________________ Aerosexual...! Back to top avbuff Member Joined: 22 Dec 2006 Posts: 5031 Posted: Sun May 04, 2014 1:56 am    Post subject: Strong rumours, 9W will empty it's narrow body fleet by W14. LHR, BRU EWR and CDG will go. Etihad management feels 9Ws losses Wil reduce substantially after removing the wide body sub fleet. 9W has still not come to terms with long haul strategies. While I'm myself apprehensive about the whole plan, my source too is credible on the other hand. Back to top luvleen Member Joined: 02 Jul 2012 Posts: 179 Location: Bombay Posted: Sun May 04, 2014 3:34 am    Post subject: Quote: 9W will empty it's narrow body fleet by W14. LHR, BRU EWR and CDG will go. Etihad management feels 9Ws losses Wil reduce substantially after removing the wide body sub fleet. immmm sorry but should the narrow body fleet of 9W go as well as its wide body, then where will they operate to? I assume you mean '9W will empty it's wide body fleet by W14'. It'd be sad to see 9W go though. Despite all their follies and stupidities I still had high hopes of them turning their shit around and becoming a premier international airlines out of India. Lost that hope from AI long ago after numerous terrible experiences with them both on-gound and inflight. I guess when it came to choosing an Indian airline to fly to/from India, i always chose 9W by default (lesser of the two evils I believe) Back to top jasepl Member Joined: 26 Jul 2008 Posts: 4257 Location: bund-bay Posted: Sun May 04, 2014 9:17 am    Post subject: avbuff wrote: Strong rumours, 9W will empty it's narrow body fleet by W14. LHR, BRU EWR and CDG will go. Etihad management feels 9Ws losses Wil reduce substantially after removing the wide body sub fleet. 9W has still not come to terms with long haul strategies. While I'm myself apprehensive about the whole plan, my source too is credible on the other hand. I hope that doesn't happen. I do not wish for Jet to all but disappear nor for the competitiveness of the Euro routes to drop. That said, with the exception of Newark and Toronto, Jet could fly their entire network on the beloved 737s by routing Europe through Dhabi. Without North America, they don't actually need a single widebody plane. This may be on Etihad's wishlist, but it seems a very unlikely outcome in the near term. Annual results should be coming up soon and while they're expected to be disastrous (unless there's some more creative accounting), the extent of the disastrousness will be indicative. On the other hand, I heard from someone who knows someone who knows someone who knows someone at the ROC that an application to change the name from Jet Airways (India) Limited to Etihad Airways India Limited was hurriedly filed last week. They want to get it cleared before the 16th. _________________ four years free of jetya punti! Back to top The_Goat Member Joined: 03 Mar 2007 Posts: 3260 Location: South of France Posted: Sun May 04, 2014 5:33 pm    Post subject: avbuff wrote: Strong rumours, 9W will empty it's narrow body fleet by W14. LHR, BRU EWR and CDG will go. What about YYZ, and their proposed flights to Australia? Should this happen, 9W will earn itself the distinction of failing on the India-London route! JFK I can still understand. It is too far out and may not be profitable to operate but London??? Even AI during its nightmare days in the 1990s did not fail on that one! Really, I hope Tata-SIA comes quickly and thrashes this Sheik owned gunny sack of an airline out of the market. _________________ I don't know which is the more pampered bunch : AI's widebodies (the aunties) or Jet's widebodies (the planes). -Jasepl Back to top Jaysit Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 4346 Posted: Mon May 05, 2014 1:15 am    Post subject: It's just a rumor being tossed around by the GCC crowd. Jet fills up its First Class suites on its London routes, and does pretty well filing up its J seats. Besides, which business traveler with half a brain would want to take a one-stop via AUH, DXB, DOH, etc. on the LHR-BOM route? All the Gulf bling in the sky isn't worth the extra 4 hours of travel and transit time. It's one thing if you're flying ULH from AUH to LAX, but LHR is just an 8 hour nonstop from BOM. Back to top 747-237 Member Joined: 11 Jun 2007 Posts: 11349 Location: Gordon Gekko's Boardroom Posted: Mon May 05, 2014 3:34 am    Post subject: http://www.hindustantimes.com/business-news/jet-airways-may-have-to-abort-abu-dhabi-operations/article1-1215475.aspx Jet Airways may have to abort Abu Dhabi operations May 04, 2014 Hit hard by the US Federal Aviation Admini­stration’s (FAA) downgrade of Indian carriers, Jet Airways has told the aviation ministry that it will have to withdraw its recently-launched flights to Abu Dhabi and ground its aircraft if its request for code-share with Etihad Airways is not approved. The FAA downgrade of India’s aviation safety rating in January meant that Indian carriers cannot increase flights to the US, nor have new code-shares with American carriers. As a result, Jet’s code-share plans with American Airlines on the New York-San Francisco route as well as from Chicago to 17 US cities including Dallas, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Seattle, Atlanta and Detroit, are now stuck. To add to its problems, the Naresh Goyal-led Jet has not been able to start its planned flights to New York and Chicago via Abu Dhabi, which were to begin this summer schedule. “Additional services between India and Abu Dhabi from Bangalore, Hyderabad and Chennai were introduced with the purpose of feeding our planned operations between Abu Dhabi and US, which have been put on hold due to the downgrade,” Jet wrote to the aviation ministry. It requested that it be allowed to code-share with Etihad on flights from Abu Dhabi to Chicago and New York. “The code-share enables the continuation of this feed in the absence of our flights without which these India-Abu Dhabi services will become loss making… the routes will have to be withdrawn and aircraft grounded,” Jet wrote to the ministry. Jet did not respond to an email from HT seeking comments for this story. Back to top sri_bom Member Joined: 22 Dec 2006 Posts: 2365 Location: Singapore Posted: Mon May 05, 2014 1:46 pm    Post subject: SriLankan Airlines in codeshare talks with Jet Airways News 5-May-2014 11:50 AM SriLankan Airlines CEO Kapila Chandrasena said the carrier is "talking to Jet Airways for a codeshare agreement" but said: "I won’t be able to comment on the outcome of these talks. We do not have any joint venture talks with anyone as of now" (newindianexpress.com, 04-May-2014). Back to top 747-237 Member Joined: 11 Jun 2007 Posts: 11349 Location: Gordon Gekko's Boardroom Posted: Tue May 06, 2014 3:37 pm    Post subject: Jet Airways May/June 2014 Hong Kong Operation Changes Jet Airways in May and June 2014 is temporary adjusting operational aircraft to Hong Kong. Planned operation changes from 01MAY14 to 12JUN14 as follow. Delhi – Hong Kong A330-200 operates daily replacing 3 weekly A330 and 4 weekly 777 9W078 DEL0105 – 0855HKG 332 D 9W077 HKG1950 – 2305DEL 332 D Mumbai – Hong Kong 4 of 7 weekly service operates with A330-200, instead of 777-300ER 9W076 BOM0125 – 0940HKG 332 x567 9W076 BOM0125 – 0940HKG 77W 567 9W075 HKG1945 – 2335BOM 77W 567 9W075 HKG1945 – 2335BOM 332 x567 Source: Airlineroute.net Back to top 747-237 Member Joined: 11 Jun 2007 Posts: 11349 Location: Gordon Gekko's Boardroom Posted: Tue May 06, 2014 3:54 pm    Post subject: Yet another (the third) 9W A332 has been leased out to TK. VT-JWN will be joining TK as TC-JIN, with sister ships VT-JWL (as TC-JIM) and VT-JWH (TC-JIL). To update my list ..... The 9W A332 leasing saga thus far : VT-JWD -> To Gulf Air as VT-JWD -> To Jet Airways as VT-JWD -> To Oman Air as VT-JWD -> To Jet Airways as VT-JWD -> To Etihad as A6-EYY -> To Air Seychelles as A6-EYY VT-JWE -> To Gulf Air as VT-JWE -> To Jet Airways as VT-JWE -> To Oman Air as VT-JWE -> To Jet Airways as VT-JWE -> To Etihad as A6-EYZ -> To Air Seychelles as A6-EYZ VT-JWJ -> To Etihad as A6-EYC VT-JWK -> To Etihad as A6-EYA VT-JWM -> To Etihad as A6-EYB VT-JWF -> To Etihad as A6-AGA VT-JWG -> To Etihad as A6-AGB VT-JWL -> To Turkish as TC-JIM VT-JWH -> To Turkish as TC-JIL VT-JWN -> To Turkish as TC-JIN Back to top jasepl Member Joined: 26 Jul 2008 Posts: 4257 Location: bund-bay Posted: Tue May 06, 2014 4:20 pm    Post subject: Hong Kong is 77W and 332. London is 77W. Singapore's been "upgraded" to 737s. India-Brussels is partly 77W. Paris will be 332. So what exactly are they doing with all those game-changing 333s they just bought? The ones that were the best purchase ever? I'm not sure how many they have, but I want to say 4 or 5. Let's assume all of Brussels - North America is 333. So that's 2 aircraft. Throw in the handful of India - Brussels flights and we get 2 point something. Am I missing something? Or are these airline-saving planes also doing tarmac TP? _________________ four years free of jetya punti! Back to top 747-237 Member Joined: 11 Jun 2007 Posts: 11349 Location: Gordon Gekko's Boardroom Posted: Tue May 06, 2014 4:26 pm    Post subject: jasepl wrote: So what exactly are they doing with all those game-changing 333s they just bought? The ones that were the best purchase ever? I'm not sure how many they have, but I want to say 4 or 5. 4 x A333s : VT-JWR VT-JWS VT-JWT VT-JWU Back to top jasepl Member Joined: 26 Jul 2008 Posts: 4257 Location: bund-bay Posted: Tue May 06, 2014 4:29 pm    Post subject: 747-237 wrote: jasepl wrote: So what exactly are they doing with all those game-changing 333s they just bought? The ones that were the best purchase ever? I'm not sure how many they have, but I want to say 4 or 5. 4 x A333s : VT-JWR VT-JWS VT-JWT VT-JWU Thanks... I figured you would know. Now, do you know what the fourth one's been doing? _________________ four years free of jetya punti! Back to top Spiderguy252 Member Joined: 10 Aug 2007 Posts: 4259 Location: Indian Ocean Posted: Tue May 06, 2014 5:17 pm    Post subject: Jet won't get rid of LHR and HKG, so the widebodies leaving sounds implausible. Besides, what of the 789s coming in next year? _________________ Yeah. 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