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PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personally observed as most HAJ pax are 1st time Air travellers they are not well versed with Aircraft rules on board which includes safety.Language problems also exist between Crew & Pax on most flights.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 12:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Normally in a case like this when a flight has to divert due to pax emergency, then who pays for it? Are the passengers billed for it?

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Normally in a case like this when a flight has to divert due to pax emergency, then who pays for it? Are the passengers billed for it?

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No way airlines even pay for the medical bills in most of the cases. Else people would definately feel that the passenger got a heart attack and the airline did not handle the case well.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Normally in a case like this when a flight has to divert due to pax emergency, then who pays for it? Are the passengers billed for it?

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No way airlines even pay for the medical bills in most of the cases. Else people would definately feel that the passenger got a heart attack and the airline did not handle the case well.


Is this humanity or just a mere publicity stunt on part of the airlines to care for the passenger Surprised
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In this case, its a special flight. So Saudi would have had to wait. Must have decided to do this after preliminary tests indictaed that the woman was not too sick.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 5:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Is this humanity or just a mere publicity stunt on part of the airlines to care for the passenger Surprised

Depends on how you think Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 3:20 pm    Post subject: Every pilot to become a Cat-II? Reply with quote

A UNI report (Dec. 2Cool says that the Directorate General of Civil Aviation (DGCA) is considering upgrading the syllabus of pilots to ensure that all of them get automatically trained to operate at least the Category-II Instrument Landing System to overcome low visibility problems. The idea is to get every pilot CAT-II compliant, DGCA chief Kanu Gohain said.
DGCA was also considering relaxing flight take-off norms during foggy weather to allow planes to fly at low runway visibility conditions.
The proposal is on the drawing board. As Europe and the US also face same problems (of fog), the DGCA will be studying the regulations prevalent there as well as in the US (prepared by the Federal Aviation Authority).
Subject to meeting certain conditions, the DGCA is considering to relax the low take-off minima (LTM) norms, thereby allowing qualified airlines to take off at a runway visibility range (RVR) of 150 metres from the present 500, he said.
Referring to the dense fog situation which suddenly developed last night around 2200 hours in Delhi, the report says he confirmed that as many as 51 domestic and international flights operated when the low visibility procedures were in place as the RVR allowing CAT-III and CAT-II operations. Most flights which operated out of Delhi last night in the fog were those of public sector Air India and the Indian, besides ten foreign carriers.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 11:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fit to fly?

Alarmed at the increasing number of passenger deaths, airlines are pushing for a mandatory disclosure of fliers’ medical history before a ticket is issued. In the past two months, six passengers have died in Mumbai alone.


http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/181_1881968,0008.htm
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 12:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Fit to fly?

Alarmed at the increasing number of passenger deaths, airlines are pushing for a mandatory disclosure of fliers’ medical history before a ticket is issued. In the past two months, six passengers have died in Mumbai alone.


http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/181_1881968,0008.htm

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 4:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Fit to fly?

Alarmed at the increasing number of passenger deaths, airlines are pushing for a mandatory disclosure of fliers’ medical history before a ticket is issued. In the past two months, six passengers have died in Mumbai alone.


http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/181_1881968,0008.htm

What next???


Maybe airliners getting a disclaimer signed from the pax before hand to ensure no liability Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 9:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How much does stress compound these equations.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 3:16 pm    Post subject: Capt. Gopinath a visionary? ... and your pet and flts Reply with quote

Two articles here.

First one tries to demystify Capt. Gopinath ... a bit PR
http://www.rediff.com/money/2006/dec/27gopi.htm
He gave wings to the common Indian

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Th second is on the hassles of having yr pet fly with you in India.
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/Pets_can_fly_but_fares_arent_tame/articleshow/955445.cms
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 2:30 pm    Post subject: State to train tribals as air hostesses, stewards Reply with quote

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State to train tribals as air hostesses, stewards

Zeeshan Shaikh and Lalatendu Mishra

Nasik, December 29, 2006

Drunken men and women dancing to primal drumbeats is passé. Young tribals in the state are getting ready to greet you as air hostesses, flight stewards and ground handlers at airports. Question Rolling Eyes Exclamation

Cashing in on the aviation boom, the state government has decided to train tribal youth to tackle unemployment. It will train 100 people through a programme likely to commence mid-January, which will be funded by the Maharashtra State Tribal Development Department. The department will invest Rs 1 lakh per student.
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“It is a very good experiment and airlines will have no problem in recruiting young tribal people. We will provide them further training,” said Regional Director of Indian (Airlines) NR Phatak.

Email Zeeshan Shaikh: zeeshan.shaikh@hindustantimes.com


What an introduction to write!!!
... And only AI/IA will recruit them. Don't see this happeing in Jet or King.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 3:15 pm    Post subject: Re: State to train tribals as air hostesses, stewards Reply with quote

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What an introduction to write!!!
... And only AI/IA will recruit them. Don't see this happeing in Jet or King.


With job reservations looming over private sector, 9W and IT may soon have to recruit tribals.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 6:08 pm    Post subject: Re: State to train tribals as air hostesses, stewards Reply with quote

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Drunken men and women dancing to primal drumbeats is passé. Young tribals in the state are getting ready to greet you as air hostesses, flight stewards and ground handlers at airports. Question Rolling Eyes Exclamation


Did they mean those maids working as sweepers at the airports?
If no then exactly as kcm said:
karatecaman wrote:

What an introduction to write!!!
... And only AI/IA will recruit them. Don't see this happeing in Jet or King.


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With job reservations looming over private sector, 9W and IT may soon have to recruit tribals.

The govt has been trying that for quite some time. If they force it only then wil something happen. After all why should AI and IC only bear such nonsense?
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 10:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Job quotas and quotas for tribal/backward students is just wrong. It is unfair to those who have worked hard to get there.

There's a saying, "Give the man food and he eats for a day, teach him to fish and he never goes hungry again."

Why can't they open training centres for the underpriveliged people so that they may compete with others on an equal footing. Govt seems to be taking the short cut and short term solution to reducing unemployment amongst the tribes.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Why can't they open training centres for the underpriveliged people so that they may compete with others on an equal footing. Govt seems to be taking the short cut and short term solution to reducing unemployment amongst the tribes.

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Exactly!
Now which private airline would like to induct untrained manpower?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 11:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Read in today's Economic times that Govt has approved runways with steel reinforcement. Couldn't find the link on the web though.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 5:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

here is latest for AIX, many thnx to Rick



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 6:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

WOW, they should have these tails on the mainline AI aircrafts as well.

One good reason:

Those AI aircrafts fly around the world as opposed to AIX tht just fly to the gulf. Its important to show those images to ppl across the globe and attract high dollar tourists.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 6:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Read in today's Economic times that Govt has approved runways with steel reinforcement. Couldn't find the link on the web though.

Akshay

Can anybody give details about the benefits, and any skeptic as to why it needed government "approval" if they are so good?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 1:46 pm    Post subject: State-level airlines should be promoted:Harsha Vardhan Reply with quote

State-level airlines should be promoted, according to aviation whiz kid of the 1980s, Harsha Vardhan.
With over a 100 unutilised airfields scattered all over the country, launch of regional or state-level airlines to small but important cities could be a profitable venture, he has said, in an interview that is there on UNI.
While aviation activities at present are restricted to about 24 airports, the scope for ’city airlines’ was massive, Harsh Vardhan, who has worked in Air India, Vayudoot, Sahara Airlines and Jagson, has said.
He said the city-airlines could connect smaller towns to major cities either within the respective states or to other important gateways beyond. As many as 35 such towns and cities have already been identified by the government for development of airports there.
Observing that small-capacity aircraft could be based at these small cities, Vardhan said a three-tier aviation network should be created covering the small cities, the major ones in the same state and the state capitals or major metros.
Recognising the important role of regional operations, a new consultancy firm, Starair Consulting, has come into being to provide all support to new and upcoming airline companies under a single umbrella, he said.
From preparing the techno-economic feasibility and shortlisting of aircraft, the firm would also help in identifying the vendors and negotiations with them, besides doing all documentation for government approval for a new regional airline to come up, he said.
It would also arrange for training of staff, preparation of market plan and the time-table along with fleet deployment besides launching operations, he said.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

here is one of VT-AXM



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks great
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Kingfisher Airlines Launches Direct Flights Between Bangalore and Tiruchirapally
Kingfisher Airlines, India’s fastest growing private carrier and the first airline in India to offer a premium first class service on domestic routes, today announced the launch of direct flights from Bangalore to Tiruchirapally.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Which are those palaces/halls depicted on VT-AXM
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 3:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Which are those palaces/halls depicted on VT-AXM

the one on the left is Mysore Palace for sure! The other ones could be one of them in Rajasthan..
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 2:26 pm    Post subject: Nails found in IC997 tyre Reply with quote

A UNI report says that an angle of sabotage is being examined in this incident after airport officials in Bahrain found four nails embedded in the front right tyre of an Indian Airbus A320. The nails wer found minutes before Flight IC997 was to take off from Bahrain for Doha, en route to Calicut and Cochin.

Bahrain-based engineers from IA and ground staff omf Bahrain airport found the five-inch long nails during a final check before departure, averting what an airline official described as a "potential disaster".

The engineers changed the tyre and the aircraft left behind schedule.

It had been thoroughly inspected by IA engineers in Bahrain after it arrived from Cochin, via Calicut and Doha, at 8.20pm on January 2.

The nails were discovered after the plane was towed to the boarding gate, ready for the return flight, originally scheduled for 12.05am last Thursday.

The aircraft had earlier received an all-clear in Doha, barely an hour before landing in Bahrain.

Ninety-three passengers were booked on the flight and 29 boarded in Bahrain. The rest were due to board in Doha.

The nails initially called harmless are being reexamined for explosive substances after a tracer result came back as "red".
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any link.....
The Nails could not have been hammered in.Was there no one around.Tire could have exploded.

I'd understand Stones but Nails is a first.You sure they wern't screws.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mel,
The report says 5 inch nails. Bahrain ground staff are now saying it could be from a passengers suitcase, but are still wondering how nails could have been embedded in the tyre.
Traces of explosive are suspected as a prelim test says so.
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SpiceJet Ltd. will accept funding from BNP Paribas, a UK fund and a clutch of small investors after Texas Pacific dropped out.
BNP Paribas will put in $15 million, the UK fund about $5 million and some small investors would contribute about $4 million, Chairman Siddhanta Sharma has said.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 2:47 pm    Post subject: Malaysia launches budget airline to India Reply with quote

Malaysia's low-cost airline AirAsia on Friday launched a new long-haul budget airline named AirAsia X, which will begin flying to destinations in China, India and Europe in July.


The airline has received approval to fly to several destinations in Europe, China, India and Australia, he said.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 12:37 pm    Post subject: IA --- passenger record Reply with quote

Indian has announced that it carried 8.37 lakh passengers on domestic routes in December 2006, surpassing all previous month records.
In percentage terms, this represented a growth of over seven per cent compared to the year-ago period. The airline’s international flights also carried a record 2.11 lakh passengers in December 2006 -- a growth of 20 per cent over December 2005.
Almost 45 per cent of Indian’s capacity is deployed on its international network.
However, in the months of December and January, Indian supplemented its international capacity by operating flights to carry Haj pilgrims to Jeddah and also to various points within India, a spokesperson for the airline said.
The increase in traffic was attributed to improvement in on-time performance, quality of product and services on board and various marketing initiatives, says the Indian release.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Mel,
The report says 5 inch nails. .


Any further details on the Investagation.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 11:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mel,
Investigation concludes that examination of the objects, the 5-inch nails, is most likely from trollies used on the tarmac, mostly to help load the cargo.
The "explosive traces" are a mixture of oil, grease and rubber, again from the tarmac area.
Not a case of sabotage.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks KCM.
But Trolleys would use Screws Not nails.Still a mystery or is the media using the wrong term.
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Indian and Air Deccan are fighting once again.
After market figures for market share weree released recently and where it was shown that Air Deccan has overtaken IA, Deccan's Gopinath called it as "exposing a myth, nailing a lie and marking a tectonic shift in the market".
IA has hit back strongly saying that Gopinath should have watched his language and that Indian has posted a 20 per cent increase in traffic ----- carrying a total 2.11 lakh passengers in December 2006, a growth of 20 per cent over December 2005.
Almost 45 per cent of our capacity is deployed on the international network. In December and January, Indian Airlines supplemented its international capacity by operating flights to carry Haj pilgrims from India to Jeddah and also carried pilgrims to various upliftment points in India,” an IA press release has said.
Commenting on the Air Deccan overtaking IA for No. 2 slot, an IA executive claimed that it was still maintaining the lead over Air Deccan.
“Indian Airlines boasts 21 per cent market share considering the Revenue Per Kilo Metres (RPKM) while Air Deccan is at 19 per cent. If we include international passengers into that, it will touch 27 per cent,” the executive said.
The market share is always calculated on the basis of capacity induction. Unfortunately, IA has to withdraw some domestic capacity to redeploy on the international routes, the executive added.
Referring to the total passengers carried, he added that the increase in traffic is the result of concerted action to improve on-time performance, the quality of product and services on board, and the many marketing initiatives that have been launched by the airline in the recent past.


Of course there is no news of the grounded A320s and the V2500 engines.
The Centre for Asian and Pacific Aviation says the main reason why IA is losing market share is because of underutilisation of its fleet and grounded aircraft.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wait and watch...next quarter DN will say it has overtaken 9W also Embarassed
Liar bast***
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Liar bast***


Why do you feel DN is being a liar? I mean they're supposed to be quoting numbers from the DGCA (or similar body) right? Or are they cooking up numbers?
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Why do you feel DN is being a liar? I mean they're supposed to be quoting numbers from the DGCA (or similar body) right? Or are they cooking up numbers?

Nimish its all business. If their actual loss is 200 crores they'll only declare 120 crores...stocks get badly hit. This game is played by ALL private cos.
Govt cos ke majburi hai. They can't manipulate like that.
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