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Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 3:33 pm Post subject: Aeroflot retires the Ilyushin Il-96 |
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AEROFLOT Plans Final Scheduled Il96 Service on 30MAR14
AEROFLOT on 30MAR14 is scheduled to operate final Ilyushin Il96 scheduled operation, operating Tashkent – Moscow Shremetyevo route. The Skyteam member introduced this aircraft in 1993, which mainly operates Moscow – New York JFK route in Winter 1993/94 season.
Operational schedule on 30MAR14 as follow.
SU1871 TAS0430 – 0800SVO IL9
Planned Ilyushin Il96 final scheduled operation remains subject to change.
Source : Airlineroute.net _________________ 11000 posts (and counting) on Airliners-India.
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Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 4:59 pm Post subject: |
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http://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news/30859-cubana-to-acquire-an-ex-aeroflot-il-96
Cubana to acquire an ex-Aeroflot Il-96
Cubana will take delivery of RA-96008 (cn 74393201005), an Il-96 formerly with Aeroflot. The agreement, Russia's ATO news reports, was facilitated by Russia's Ilyushin Finance Co. though no official confirmation has yet been heard.
Citing the aircraft's growing inefficiency both in terms of cost overheads and fuel consumption, Aeroflot retired the type from its fleet in March this year.
Cubana operates a fleet of three IL-96s on domestic flights as well as on flights from Havana Int'l to Buenos Aires Ezeiza, Caracas Simón Bolivar, Madrid Barajas, and Paris Orly. _________________ 11000 posts (and counting) on Airliners-India.
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Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 7:52 pm Post subject: |
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Why IL-96 is so inefficient? Is it because of bad engine/ avionics , lousy aerodynamics or anything else! I remember IL-86 was a marvelous aircraft and a strong competitor of A-300. What went wrong? _________________ Sabya99 |
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Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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The other 3 ex SU birds have also found a new home.
http://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news/30998-red-wings-to-use-three-ex-aeroflot-il-96s-for-crimea-flights
Red Wings to use three ex-Aeroflot Il-96s for Crimea flights
Red Wings is to expand its fleet with the arrival of three Il-96s formerly with Aeroflot. The Interfax newswire says the quadjets will be used to bolster both passenger and freight capacity on flights to Simferopol in Russian-occupied Crimea. Airlines that have served the controversial resort town have been subjected to hard-hitting European and US sponsored targeted sanctions, chief among them, Dobrolet. _________________ 11000 posts (and counting) on Airliners-India.
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The_Goat Member
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Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2014 1:31 pm Post subject: |
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sabya99 wrote: | Why IL-96 is so inefficient? Is it because of bad engine/ avionics , lousy aerodynamics or anything else! I remember IL-86 was a marvelous aircraft and a strong competitor of A-300. What went wrong? |
The IL-96 was a competitor to the A340, not the A300.
Specifically, the IL96M was a direct competitor to the A340-300. It also used Pratt and Whitney PW 2337 engines and featured Western avionics. There is some rumour that the IL-96M failed because the US Exim Bank withheld the finances for its development under pressure from Boeing. The issue was sorted out later after Aeroflot ordered B737s and B767s , but the damage was done and the A343 had taken over whatever market was there.
Maybe the Russians should have tried to develop a twin engined version, directly competing with the A330. _________________ I don't know which is the more pampered bunch : AI's widebodies (the aunties) or Jet's widebodies (the planes).
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Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2014 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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The_Goat wrote: | sabya99 wrote: | Why IL-96 is so inefficient? Is it because of bad engine/ avionics , lousy aerodynamics or anything else! I remember IL-86 was a marvelous aircraft and a strong competitor of A-300. What went wrong? |
The IL-96 was a competitor to the A340, not the A300.
Specifically, the IL96M was a direct competitor to the A340-300. It also used Pratt and Whitney PW 2337 engines and featured Western avionics. There is some rumour that the IL-96M failed because the US Exim Bank withheld the finances for its development under pressure from Boeing. The issue was sorted out later after Aeroflot ordered B737s and B767s , but the damage was done and the A343 had taken over whatever market was there.
Maybe the Russians should have tried to develop a twin engined version, directly competing with the A330. |
I never said IL-96 was a competitor of A300 rather it was IL-86. Yes, you are right IL-96 was designed with A 340 in mind. Also USSR did not have any long range aircraft that could reach Moscow to Havana nonstop. But the whole IL 96 project failed because of lack of high bypass turbo fan engine. West beat USSR in this technology. _________________ Sabya99 |
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Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 9:24 am Post subject: |
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IL-96 did indeed have a high bypass turbofan engine, the Aviadvigatel PS-90. It is the IL-86 which had the low bypass engines. |
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 12:26 pm Post subject: |
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http://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news/34199-cubana-to-lease-an-additional-il-96-from-ifc
Cubana to lease an additional Il-96 from IFC
Cubana has signed a preliminary agreement wit the Ilyushin Finance Co. (IFC) for the lease of one Il-96 with delivery scheduled for the second quarter of the year.
The Cuban carrier operates a fleet of three IL-96-300s with two former Aeroflot airframes slated to enter revenue service shortly.
The widebody is used on flights from Havana Int'l to Brazil, Argentina, Venezuela, France, and Spain. _________________ 11000 posts (and counting) on Airliners-India.
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Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 4:00 pm Post subject: |
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That's one good looking airplane. Glad she's still flying.
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Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 12:24 am Post subject: |
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Cubana is a fun airline.
Their flights to Paris and Madrid are often known to be up to 12-14 hours late.
On one occasion one of their IL-96S suffered an engine failure in Paris. The pilot simply shut the offending engine down, and flew back to Havana on three engines. _________________ I don't know which is the more pampered bunch : AI's widebodies (the aunties) or Jet's widebodies (the planes).
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