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 Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 7:05 pm Post subject: India increases size of MRMR deal to nine aircraft |
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http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/india-increases-size-of-maritime-reconnaissance-deal-to-nine-aircraft-389621/
India increases size of maritime reconnaissance deal to nine aircraft
India has increased the number of aircraft requested under its medium-range maritime reconnaissance (MRMR) requirement as well as mandating Indian-sourced content on the contract.
New Delhi released the long-awaited request for proposals (RFP) for the patrol aircraft on 8 August. Originally anticipated in mid-2012, the reasons for the delay are unclear. Additionally, the original solicitation to manufacturers called for six aircraft, which has since increased to nine.
The MRMR aircraft will be operated by the Indian navy. Aside from the aircraft, says a source familiar with the requirement, the RFP calls for weapons, defence countermeasures, spares, test equipment, ground support equipment, and training.
Although the aircraft will not be required to perform anti-submarine warfare (ASW) tasks, New Delhi appears to be placing a significant emphasis on the platform's electronic warfare capabilities. India is also asking for several locally-produced mission systems to be integrated.
According to Indian media reports, the RFP was sent to eight contractors: Boeing, Lockheed Martin, Airbus Military, Dassault, Saab, Bombardier, Embraer and ATR.
Given the vast potential of India's defence market, the contract is likely to be a hard-fought battle among the various bidders.
Boeing appears to be in a strong position. It is already supplying the navy with eight P-8I Neptune ASW aircraft, a variant of the US Navy's P-8A Poseidon. New Delhi's first 737-800 based P-8I arrived in May, and it will have three examples by the end of the year.
It also has other large contracts with the nation, including an order for 10 C-17 strategic transports, of which two have so far been delivered.
A source familiar with Indian naval aviation requirements says several indigenous Indian electronic systems aboard the P-8I are also required under the MRMR contract. Boeing's experience in integrating this equipment onto the Neptune could give it an edge in relation to the latest requirement.
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| Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 12:18 am Post subject: |
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Where are these going to be parked, any details.
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| Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 3:20 pm Post subject: |
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| I believe E-2D is a strong contender for this. |
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| Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 9:57 pm Post subject: |
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| shivendrashukla wrote: | | I believe E-2D is a strong contender for this. |
Shukla-ji, then the news item was in error, since Northrop-Grumman was not listed as a contender. The news item mentions 8 contenders: Boeing, Lockheed Martin, Airbus Military, Dassault, Saab, Bombardier, Embraer and ATR. Has this been extended to 9, with Northrup-Grumman also in the fray? The E2-D Advanced Hawkeye is an excellent version of an old, tried and tested platform, which can also effectively do carrier-based operations.
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| Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 9:34 pm Post subject: |
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| sumantra wrote: | Has this been extended to 9, with Northrup-Grumman also in the fray? The E2-D Advanced Hawkeye is an excellent version of an old, tried and tested platform, which can also effectively do carrier-based operations.
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http://www.indiastrategic.in/topstories380.htm
If this link is to be believed, it certainly was (or is?). The major advantage of this platform is that it is a proven carrier based system, although it needs CATOBAR for takeoff whereas IN has gone for ski junp, atleast for the first aircraft carrier. Nevertheless, it is a great aircraft.
A more recent news item
http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/aero-india-indian-navy-assesses-e-2d-for-carrier-based-aew-352989/
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| Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 10:04 am Post subject: |
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| shivendrashukla wrote: | | The major advantage of this platform is that it is a proven carrier based system, although it needs CATOBAR for takeoff whereas IN has gone for ski junp, atleast for the first aircraft carrier. |
From my uninformed viewpoint, it was perhaps a good decision to go in for a ski jump, as opposed to a catapult. What do you say? The E-2D is a great plane. |
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| sumantra wrote: | | From my uninformed viewpoint, it was perhaps a good decision to go in for a ski jump, as opposed to a catapult. What do you say? The E-2D is a great plane. |
It all depends upon what aircraft type you would want to operate and mission profile. Big and heavy aircraft with full load of fuel and stores like F-18 D/E/F/G would not be able to take off with a ski jump. Whereas comparable light aircraft like Harrier, Tejas would be able to take off because they weigh a lot less. Even medium weight aircraft like Rafael M would be able to take off a ski jump, but with heavy fuel/armament penalty. Therefore you choose what would you like.
For India's case, IN would be operating MiG 29K and Tejas from INS Vikrant II. Both of them are light weight aircraft and MiG 29 has exceptional STOL performance. Hence for us, ski jump would suffice. But if we were to operate Su-33 off carriers, it would be either too heavy to take off or take off with huge penalties.
I hope I was able to explain without confusing you.
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| shivendrashukla wrote: | | I hope I was able to explain without confusing you. |
Thanks, Sir - that was a nice explanation. I do not think the Indian Navy needs heavier aircraft like the Su-27 derivatives, to necessitate a catapult. However, the E-2D would be a grand force multiplier, with a catapult-based launching system on the Vikrant/Vikramaditya.
Cheers, Sumantra. |
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