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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 7:28 pm    Post subject: More Ways to Promote the Site Reply with quote

Guys,

I have noticed that lately that the growth of members in the site has been quite organic or slower than what we would like. Growth of the site is dependant on an increase in the number of members so that we have more people contributing to discussions and sharing information. Hence, it is imperative that more steps be taken to promote the site. Occasionally dropping hints in the parent (A.net) site will not get us any further.

One of the techniques I was thinking of (along with another member) is that we spread the word about our site amongst airline employees in India and encourage them to join. I am sure there would be quite a few keen people. For starters I would recommend that current members who belong to airlines tell their colleagues about the site. I think word of mouth will go a long way in increasing membership.

Another option we have to seriously consider is creating an entry for this site on Wikipedia. Obviously with a link to our site. If anyone has any update on the current state of the article please inform. If not I could write one by next week and put it up here first for consideration.

I would also ask all members to contribute positively to this post and come up with their ideas and views. I believe we have started a wonderful forum where lots of intelligent and knowledgeable people contribute to some very exciting discussions and it is our responsibility to take this endeavour to greater heights.

Waiting for your inputs.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great post AKL, I agree that we need to promote this site more actively. We've been indirectly adding references onto A.net, but that's not taking us too far.

One of the big surprises to me was that Google does not throw up our site when we search for something like "Federation of Indian Airlines". Given we have a topic on that, I would have expected Google to show up this site, but it refused to bring it up. That might be something for Aseem to take up with the site administrators - to find out if they are doing something to block search engines or whether we can do something to promote ourselves on search engines.

One of the definite ways by which Google will pick us up more is if we're referenced on other "reputable" sites. While it's not easy to ensure that, it's something we need to keep in mind - add http://airlinersindia.s4.bizhat.com/ as a cross reference to other sites, so that Google views our site more seriously. We should consider cross linking with the other Indian aviation industry sites (whatever those are!)

Wiki is another great way to promote our site - we can have the cross linking from the airliners-india page on Wiki. Bhargavi was going to write the first article, but I believe she was gating on getting information on this site from Aseem. But I'm not sure of the latest status on that.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A Google search for "airliners-india" shows the Activeboard forum, but not this one.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Was expecting a word from our CEO Wink
Nimish,Aseem still has to give some more details and stats to Bhargavi.

Coming back to this topic,
Nimish, i was wondering if we could include our site in the Submit your Site featured search engines like the one mentioned above. Well they might ask for money but i don't have an exact idea.

Other than what AKL has said, i guess promoting this site on places like Orkut CAN make a difference.
One thing ... most people who have joined hardly post...the average figures till date are:
* 70 people out of 132 have posted more than 5 articles.
* 33 people are still to make their first post.
* The rest have posted between 1-5.


The sole wiki article won't help us that much, we must try and stress on tholse words which a layman would use in aviation related searches on Google.
With an article in Wiki we get an access to Google and Yahoo search engines because if you've noticed many searches have a wiki related link in those search engines. So using words like 'Indian Aviation' or 'Airlines in India' will help us get out Wiki article in the search engines.

Another thing, people sign up and forget about the site... ( most of 33 people are the best examples for this). So for this problem, a regular weekly 'newsletter' of whatever has happened in that week (hot topics, exclusives, trip reports) etc must be genaralised and emailed about twice to all the members ( two times within a gap of one or two days)

AKLDELNonstop wrote:
Occasionally dropping hints in the parent (A.net) site will not get us any further.

Sorry to say this, but are we actually considering A-net as our parent site? In that case we become a lot dependent on them. I mean there are other sites like JP.net and like C-GHKR once said many people don't like A-net and are visitors of other sites like JP.net ... lets try and get all such people from the other sites also who're interested in indian aviation scenes. Occasionally members out here can voluntarily add airliners-india.net as their bookmarked webpages in their websites, profiles in hi5 or orkut etc.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 6:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the_380 wrote:

Other than what AKL has said, i guess promoting this site on places like Orkut CAN make a difference.


I am a bit wary of promoting the site on orkut because we might face a problem where we have too many uninterested members joining to "check it out". Another thing that I feel is very important while we are trying to expand the site is to maintain anonymity of members. For those member who use usernames, no explicit mention to their real names should be made. While we do know who posts in the site we do not know who is reading it, so best to be anonymous.

the_380 wrote:

One thing ... most people who have joined hardly post...the average figures till date are:
* 70 people out of 132 have posted more than 5 articles.
* 33 people are still to make their first post.
* The rest have posted between 1-5.


I do not see this as a major problem, people who have to contribute will do so and those who just like to read should be allowed to do the same.

the_380 wrote:

The sole wiki article won't help us that much, we must try and stress on tholse words which a layman would use in aviation related searches on Google.


While by itself the wiki article may not do a lot, it will definitely go a long way in promoting awareness of the site. On a related note, how about creating an "About Us" section in this site, which gives a brief history and purpose of the site.

the_380 wrote:

Sorry to say this, but are we actually considering A-net as our parent site? In that case we become a lot dependent on them.


No we are not dependent on A.net but the reason I called it the parent site was because the idea to create this site I believe came from posters who were members of a.net for a long time.

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Suggestions welcome


Yes please keep them coming.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 7:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

forgive me Bhargavi and the rest...I am very hard pressed for time for next 4-5 days or so...
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will be announcing this Site in May to Employees interested during our Annual Safety trainings next month.

I'd suggest to list our Site in Aviation search Engines like crewstart,aeroseek & thirtythousandfeet.

Our forum needs discussions that will interest the Visitor.

Some of you folks are quite knowledgable about Airlines & their routing.That will interest many.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HAWK21M wrote:
Our forum needs discussions that will interest the Visitor.

Rightly said... in between there was another HTML page put up that had a link to the forum and the photo database with the pic of a AI 777 ... although the idea was withdrawn, i feel thats something interesting...
Maybe like having the photo of the month displayed on the first page, latest trip reports, hot topics on the forum, etc

HAWK21M wrote:
I'd suggest to list our Site in Aviation search Engines like crewstart,aeroseek & thirtythousandfeet.

Will they accept it that easily? Rolling Eyes

AKLDELNonstop wrote:
I do not see this as a major problem, people who have to contribute will do so and those who just like to read should be allowed to do the same.

No i didn't put it as a problem, maybe we can try and get those people also to post.

AKLDELNonstop wrote:
While by itself the wiki article may not do a lot, it will definitely go a long way in promoting awareness of the site. On a related note, how about creating an "About Us" section in this site, which gives a brief history and purpose of the site.

Excellent idea ... i have put some more ideas about it in another topic in site related

PS: Also my friend suggested a few sites to promote i have no idea but someone please elaborate

http://publisher.yahoo.com/rssguide
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http://search.yahoo.com/info/submit.html
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 2:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Btw now we have a competition, just noticed some site related to aviation in india (a forum basically) and it was supported by some Vista Forum Boards or something like that....although i had to shut down my PC...mom was shouting literally...so couldn't get that long url ... will let u know if i get the link
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How about some of us setting up Indian Aviation related blogs (at the free blogger sites) and cross linking to threads on AI.net. And for those with blogs - adding a a few references to the Airliners india forum and to 1-2 current threads will help.

Blogs seem to get regularly indexed by Google. For instance posts on http://avindia.blogspot.com/index.html are a regular on my Google new feeds for aviation in India
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 10:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

couple of solutions here...if I activate domain masking, the www.airliners.net get noticed by search engines, the downside being that no permanent link to individual pages unless you start off by bizhat link. Let me know what you folks feel about it...

I do have a experimental blog ready if you folks are interested... http://indianaviationnews.blogspot.com/

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 11:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aseem wrote:
couple of solutions here...if I activate domain masking, the www.airliners.net get noticed by search engines, the downside being that no permanent link to individual pages unless you start off by bizhat link. Let me know what you folks feel about it...

I do have a experimental blog ready if you folks are interested... http://indianaviationnews.blogspot.com/

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1. Can we try domain masking for a few days/weeks to see how it pans out?

2. Can you add a few links/posts to this blog (pointing to ai.net)? We can see how that helps bring this up in Google search.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 3:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nimish wrote:
1. Can we try domain masking for a few days/weeks to see how it pans out?

2. Can you add a few links/posts to this blog (pointing to ai.net)? We can see how that helps bring this up in Google search.


1. Tried it, but comes up with one problem. The Visual confirmation does show up while registering.

2. Can certainly be tried over extended period of time and see if it shows up on Google.

We have to somehow show up on Google....
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 10:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When members are posting comments on Anet, u can probably add a link below the comment

Also, on Flickr, when commenting on pics from the pool or inviting pics to the pool; a link to the forum can be added. There are a few members of the Flickr pool, who are not members here
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aseem.
Suggest you add our Site on the following as you can coordinate where needed:-

http://www.top100aviationsites.com/in.php?site=72

http://www.crewstart.com/


http://top-100.luchtzak.be/index.php?a=join

http://topsites.hotaviation.com/

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aiel wrote:
When members are posting comments on Anet, u can probably add a link below the comment

How about some Anet members being generous enough and make their signatures on Anet as http://www.airliners-india.net ? Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One sureshot way of advertising can be putting up banners in other sites as well putting up their banners in this forum... Although, it has been successful in the past because banners were well designed and animated... but I don't think anyone amongst us is good in animation...
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the_380 wrote:
Aiel wrote:
When members are posting comments on Anet, u can probably add a link below the comment

How about some Anet members being generous enough and make their signatures on Anet as http://www.airliners-india.net ? Wink


I think that could be a violation of Anet rules.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the_380 wrote:
Aiel wrote:
When members are posting comments on Anet, u can probably add a link below the comment

How about some Anet members being generous enough and make their signatures on Anet as http://www.airliners-india.net ? Wink

I did it and they not only removed it but also downgraded my RR rating. And now it does not allow to place hyperlink in signature...
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OMG! I never knew that... atleast how about adding it as your homepage in you profiles at Anet? If ther's such an option...
or maybe DONT PUT AN HTML ... simple text like
"airliners-india.net the indian aviation location" or something like that as ur siggie
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 1:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the Contarary i'd suggest to slip the Link during the Indian Aviation Thread posts on random.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 12:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Err...
Competition Exclamation Exclamation Exclamation
Question http://vista.editboard.com/index.htm
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 12:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the_380 wrote:
Err...
Competition Exclamation Exclamation Exclamation
Question http://vista.editboard.com/index.htm

Honestly speaking, I don't see any threat from the s**t by that forum... It's made as if all the ingridients of making a pizza were mixed into the dough at once...
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 8:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the_380 wrote:
Err...
Competition Exclamation Exclamation Exclamation
Question http://vista.editboard.com/index.htm


Whose running this board.It looks more like a General board rather than Aviation only.
It looks like theres only 1 person posting,although understandably most members just register.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

@A380 said....

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One thing ... most people who have joined hardly post...the average figures till date are:
* 70 people out of 132 have posted more than 5 articles.
* 33 people are still to make their first post.
* The rest have posted between 1-5.


Try some sensible approach, and yes does help if you have a better adaptability.

Just because u are at the helm, does not mean u can charter your own course. Think of this site as a plane and people posting as passengers, and people at the helm as the pilots.

Just because the pilot thinks that he finds something not to his convenience or his comfort, he CANNOT (OR CAN HE Rolling Eyes ) alter the set path or flight plan.

I suggest word of mouth marketing is by far and large one of the best marketing tactics.

A380 has some valid points and yes AKDEL does make some sense too.

BTW i must share with you ppl that the CREDIT must be given to MEL aka HAWK21M as he has joined a lot of aviation forums and has actively advocated this site. Kudos and salams of the Maharaja to you.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, word of mouth is the best one I guess.. Orkut is a good option but as I read, its not really supported by many.. so.. lets give it a pass.. all one can do is to refer to other peops..

BTW: I got to know about this from a member here and I have also asked a few sensible people to join us as well.. Lets see..

Great place this is Cool
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can we have members from other aviation sites in india to join us or would that be some issue with their owners or promoters.

Word of mouth is definately the in thing in such promotions.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 10:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone that can contribute positively to Aviation in the smallest possible way is welcome.
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HAWK21M wrote:
Anyone that can contribute positively to Aviation in the smallest possible way is welcome.
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IMHO you are the award to AINET who is contributing positively to Aviation.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 8:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good to see a couple of regular contributors to the flickr site have signed up here i.e. Premshree and Teemus
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 8:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JumboJet wrote:
HAWK21M wrote:
Anyone that can contribute positively to Aviation in the smallest possible way is welcome.
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IMHO you are the award to AINET who is contributing positively to Aviation.


Im honoured.But there are others more deserving.Thanks.
BTW good to see you back on the forum.Your Inputs on ATF would be eagerly awaited.In fact theres a thread on that out here.
http://airlinersindia.s4.bizhat.com/viewtopic.php?p=10807#10807
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

my vote goes to MEL for his contribution to AI.net and A.net......

btw! its me who has been late in providing info to Bhargavi so that she can draft matter for Wiki....won't take long
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 2:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mel for AI.Net Laughing

Anet not interested Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 8:27 pm    Post subject: SOLID idea... Reply with quote

My idea is solid and it's gonna work... I tried it and my hi5 profile got more visits...
See, there's a service called Yahoo! Answers, where in Automobiles and Transportation, a sub-section related to aviation is there... There we can answer questions and when we sign we can give a reference to Anet-India...
The link is http://answers.yahoo.com . Anybody registered with Yahoo! can avail this service to answer as well as ask questions... As you answer, you earn points...
The visitors to my hi5 profile increased because of this...
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BTW awesome job by LAXdesi to promote Anet-India on Anet in Indian Aviation Thread: Part 50... Congrats to LAXdesi on this milestone achievement too...
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 7:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes the Indian Aviation Threads on Anet are very popular.Great effort there.
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