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Mötley Crew: Air India (Cargo) DC-8 Hybrids

 
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 3:34 pm    Post subject: Mötley Crew: Air India (Cargo) DC-8 Hybrids Reply with quote

The twelve DC-8s that have donned Air India (Cargo) hybrid colors over the years.

Let me know if I'm missing any.


National Airlines
McDonnell Douglas DC-8-63CF N865F




National Airlines
McDonnell Douglas DC-8-63(F) N906R




National Airlines
McDonnell Douglas DC-8-63CF N921R




Seaboard World Airlines
Douglas DC-8-63CF N8642




Flying Tigers
McDonnell Douglas DC-8-63CF N796FT




Flying Tigers
McDonnell Douglas DC-8-63CF N773FT




Flying Tigers
McDonnell Douglas DC-8-63CF N776FT




Evergreen International Airlines
McDonnell Douglas DC-8-73(F) N816EV




Cargolux
McDonnell Douglas DC-8-63(F) LX-ACV




Cargolux
McDonnell Douglas DC-8-63CF TF-BCV




Southern Air Transport
McDonnell Douglas DC-8-73(F) N874SJ




Icelandair
McDonnell Douglas DC-8-63CF TF-FLC


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are there different types of DC8s? The picture from Joe Pries (2nd last one) seems to have 346 sized engines compared to the others which are more 343 type hair dryers Smile.

And what's the story behind these? Why are these all foreign registered? Were they operated in India with these registrations as wet leases or something?
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nimish wrote:
Are there different types of DC8s?
Yes
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And what's the story behind these? Why are these all foreign registered?

Leased by Air India in the 1980s from a variety of operators - all maintained their original registrations, all wore hybrid livery. Only the 2 Cargolux leases had relatively regular AI colors, with the centaur on the tail.

Nimish wrote:
Were they operated in India with these registrations as wet leases or something?
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nimish wrote:
Are there different types of DC8s? The picture from Joe Pries (2nd last one) seems to have 346 sized engines compared to the others which are more 343 type hair dryers Smile.

And what's the story behind these? Why are these all foreign registered? Were they operated in India with these registrations as wet leases or something?


The DC8s originally had JT93D engines from P&W. In the 1980s, some were re-engined with CFM 56 engines. The one clicked by Joe Pries has the CFM 56 engines.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 11:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Air India had an extensive cargo network in the 1980s. Its fleet included the DC8s and a B747-200F. Going was great as long as the cargo market was almost closed to foreign operators but when the market was opened, AI's market share collapsed.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The last pic in the series - Icelandair McDonnell Douglas DC-8-63CF TF-FLC has a tail livery similar to the current AI livery minus the Ashok Chakra.



I wonder if this was considered in designing the current livery.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

himmat01 wrote:
Air India had an extensive cargo network in the 1980s. Its fleet included the DC8s and a B747-200F.


Air India (Cargo) did not operate the B747-200F. Though used as a pure freighter, it was a B747-200C (the first B747-200C ever built), leased from Evergreen International from 03/1986 to 11/1986.
She carried two registrations while at her time at AI - N747WR & then N471EV (her N registration was changed midway through her lease), giving the impression to some pundits that they were two distinct aircraft.

Air India (Cargo) also operated 3 leased IL-76s in the 1980s, though not in hybrid livery, but full SU colors.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 1:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

himmat01 wrote:
Nimish wrote:
Are there different types of DC8s? The picture from Joe Pries (2nd last one) seems to have 346 sized engines compared to the others which are more 343 type hair dryers Smile.

And what's the story behind these? Why are these all foreign registered? Were they operated in India with these registrations as wet leases or something?


The DC8s originally had JT93D engines from P&W. In the 1980s, some were re-engined with CFM 56 engines. The one clicked by Joe Pries has the CFM 56 engines.


The JT3Ds were used in all the DC-8s starting from the series 50 onwards. Earlier DC-8s (Series 10-40) were powered with JT4A engines (a few even had RR conway engines). The ones which were re-engined to CFM56 were the DC-8-60 series. These were called the DC-8-70 Series.

Before the arrival of the 757-300, the DC-8-60s were the longest single aisle airliners in service.
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