Airliners-India.com Flickr Group & Facebook    FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  Shamshabad --- taking off Goto page 1, 2  Next          Airliners-India.com Forum Index -> Civil Aviation View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message karatecatman Guest Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 3:37 pm    Post subject: Shamshabad --- taking off www.indianexpress.com/sunday/story/281921._.html Article on Shamshabad -- the experience. Back to top ssbmat Member Joined: 20 Dec 2006 Posts: 1710 Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 9:41 pm    Post subject: Quote: the new airport is capable of comfortably hosting the mega machine A320 besides 12 million passengers per annum OmiGosh! That would be a HUGE sight isnt it?? An A320 landing at Shamshabad! Our useless media at it again! Back to top haree Member Joined: 13 Feb 2007 Posts: 429 Location: Somewhere on the globe Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 10:42 am    Post subject: Thank god it didnt read the new airport is capable of comfortably hosting the mega machine A320 and its 12 million passengers per day Back to top xterra Member Joined: 10 Feb 2007 Posts: 595 Location: DONT KNO Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 5:39 pm    Post subject: 320 as a mega machine.. so 380 as what?? monster machine? Back to top crew320 Member Joined: 20 Dec 2006 Posts: 301 Location: New Delhi Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 3:29 pm    Post subject: Shamshabad Grounded !!! HYDERABAD: In a stunning anti-climax, the Union civil aviation ministry announced barely minutes after Shamshabad international airport was inaugurated by Congress president Sonia Gandhi here on Friday that commercial operations from the new airport has been "delayed by a few days because of operational reasons." http://tinyurl.com/2g562g I was supposed to land in Shamshabad this friday Guess will have to wait another 10 days. aM _________________ M y - J e t P h o t o s Back to top busintheair Member Joined: 29 Sep 2007 Posts: 273 Location: BOM Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 3:41 pm    Post subject: Too bad! _________________ http://www.jetphotos.net/showphotos.php?userid=32348 http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?photographersearch=Sreenath+Yellamrazu Back to top Indian Member Joined: 08 Jun 2007 Posts: 101 Location: New Delhi Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 3:48 pm    Post subject: As far as I know, some of the airlines have requested the Ministry and asked for some time for the transition. Also LCC's are quite apprehensive on the mandate of using Ground handlers for domestic operations which will put extra financial burden on LCC's. Hopefully shall be resolved in a few days time. _________________ When the world says give up.. Hope whispers try it one more time. Back to top Indian Member Joined: 08 Jun 2007 Posts: 101 Location: New Delhi Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 1:26 pm    Post subject: Confirmed News MoCA has cleared HIAL to start commercial operations from 0001 hours of 23rd March'2008. (Saturday Night). _________________ When the world says give up.. Hope whispers try it one more time. Back to top Nimish Member Joined: 16 Dec 2006 Posts: 9757 Location: Bangalore, India Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 10:38 pm    Post subject: Indian wrote: Confirmed News MoCA has cleared HIAL to start commercial operations from 0001 hours of 23rd March'2008. (Saturday Night). Phew - glad to hear that! _________________ We miss you Nalini! Back to top busintheair Member Joined: 29 Sep 2007 Posts: 273 Location: BOM Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 1:48 pm    Post subject: Shamshabad-Taken off finally!!! Source: http://sify.com/news/fullstory.php?id=14628085 The new Rajiv Gandhi International Airport at Shamshabad, about 30 km from the city centre, began its commercial operations with the landing of a Lufthansa aircraft on early Sunday. The aircraft carrying 276 passengers and crewmembers onboard from Frankfurt, Germany, landed at the new airport at around 12.24 am. All the passengers were given a rousing reception on their arrival at the new airport, which was inaugurated by UPA chairperson Sonia Gandhi on March 14. With this the 76-year-old Begumpet airport located in the centre of Hyderabad was officially shut down and some 13 domestic aircraft parked there were flown to the new airport to maker their early morning flights. Shamshabad has taken off leaving Begumpet grounded! Will miss you Begumpet!!! _________________ http://www.jetphotos.net/showphotos.php?userid=32348 http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?photographersearch=Sreenath+Yellamrazu Back to top crew320 Member Joined: 20 Dec 2006 Posts: 301 Location: New Delhi Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 3:28 am    Post subject: Funny! Two spicejet flights landed at the Shamshabad airport before the Lufthansa A340.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdWePf05OoE aM _________________ M y - J e t P h o t o s Back to top crew320 Member Joined: 20 Dec 2006 Posts: 301 Location: New Delhi Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 3:46 am    Post subject: NDTV with the above video states that the KLM flight got diverted due to bad weather, whereas this article has a different view. Any updates?? New Hyderabad airport opens, but with initial glitches March 23rd, 2008 - 5:48 pm ICT by admin - Hyderabad, March 23 (IANS) The new Rajiv Gandhi International Airport at Shamshabad near here began its commercial operations early Sunday when a Lufthansa flight arrived. But initial hiccups marred the opening day as a KLM flight from Amsterdam failed to land due to “confusion”. Its pilot diverted the flight to New Delhi, was denied permission, and finally landed in Mumbai. It was scheduled to land at Shamshabad at 1.45 a.m. However, the first flight from Frankfurt and four more flights from other destinations had a smooth landing at the new airport, about 30 km from the city centre. GMR Hyderabad International Airport (GHIAL), the developers of the new airport, said the KLM flight faced problems due to the confusion over change of aviation code, after the operations were shifted out from Begumpet airport in the heart of the city. “The pilot of the KLM aircraft might have had some doubt in his mind and in the utmost interest of passengers he decided not to land and diverted the aircraft,” said A. Vishwanath, vice president, corporate planning, GMR. Subsequently, the Hyderabad-Amsterdam flight was also cancelled and the passengers were accommodated in a hotel in the airport premises. “Initial hiccups will be there. We are trying to achieve operational excellence,” said GMR chairman G.M. Rao while welcoming the passengers and crew of the first flight after the new facility became operational at midnight. The Lufthansa aircraft, carrying 276 passengers and crew aboard from Frankfurt, Germany, landed at 12.25 a.m., marking the commencement of the much-awaited commercial operations at the new airport. All passengers and crew members were given a rousing reception on their arrival at the new airport, which was inaugurated by United Progressive Alliance (UPA) chairperson Sonia Gandhi March 14. http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=19200325 aM _________________ M y - J e t P h o t o s Back to top busintheair Member Joined: 29 Sep 2007 Posts: 273 Location: BOM Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 12:35 pm    Post subject: Already mess at VOHS? Am-crew320; please take some videos of your landings/take-offs at VOHS and put them up on tube! _________________ http://www.jetphotos.net/showphotos.php?userid=32348 http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?photographersearch=Sreenath+Yellamrazu Back to top crew320 Member Joined: 20 Dec 2006 Posts: 301 Location: New Delhi Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 12:33 am    Post subject: surely, will do, soon ! aM _________________ M y - J e t P h o t o s Back to top Nimish Member Joined: 16 Dec 2006 Posts: 9757 Location: Bangalore, India Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 8:08 pm    Post subject: Great pictures of the new airport - looks really sexy!!! http://picasaweb.google.com/keeper.store/NewHyderabadAirport/ _________________ We miss you Nalini! Back to top airindia787 Member Joined: 18 Nov 2007 Posts: 770 Location: DAB & ZTF Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 8:23 pm    Post subject: I'm looking forward to flying into this airport in July. The only thing is that it is very far from my Grandparents house, and at 2 in the morning all I want to do is sleep after a long flight from the US. _________________ http://openflights.org/user/akumanduri Back to top busintheair Member Joined: 29 Sep 2007 Posts: 273 Location: BOM Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 9:06 pm    Post subject: If you're coming all the way from the US; I don't think you have an option but take the long bus ride from HYD apt. to the HYD main city. The old airport was indeed close enough, but things had to change before the airport suffers like BOM. But the authorities should take a wise decision of making the old Begumpet at least operational to select domestic flights for some time till things settle down at VOHS/Shamshabad. _________________ http://www.jetphotos.net/showphotos.php?userid=32348 http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?photographersearch=Sreenath+Yellamrazu Back to top airindia787 Member Joined: 18 Nov 2007 Posts: 770 Location: DAB & ZTF Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 10:02 pm    Post subject: busintheair wrote: If you're coming all the way from the US; I don't think you have an option but take the long bus ride from HYD apt. to the HYD main city. The old airport was indeed close enough, but things had to change before the airport suffers like BOM. But the authorities should take a wise decision of making the old Begumpet at least operational to select domestic flights for some time till things settle down at VOHS/Shamshabad. I believe my Grandfather will pick me up there, but it is still a long ride. _________________ http://openflights.org/user/akumanduri Back to top busintheair Member Joined: 29 Sep 2007 Posts: 273 Location: BOM Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 10:24 pm    Post subject: Ohh.. from what info I have gathered sitting at BOM, there's a Shuttle-bus service by the airport guys to various pin point locations in HYD; Begumpet airport being one of them, They'll charge around INR 100. _________________ http://www.jetphotos.net/showphotos.php?userid=32348 http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?photographersearch=Sreenath+Yellamrazu Back to top crew320 Member Joined: 20 Dec 2006 Posts: 301 Location: New Delhi Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 11:23 pm    Post subject: Apart from the Shuttle bus service one can also make use of the air-conditioned radio taxis, which have just been introduced. Normal call taxis are also available and so are our very own indian tuk-tuks An auto wala would charge u around Rs. 175 from Begumpet to Shamshabad, Shuttle bus service Rs. 95 point to point, Radio taxis @ Rs. 15/km. I'm not too sure but one of the radio taxis I saw the other day had a screen installed on the dash board. It might as well be equipped with GPS ! aM _________________ M y - J e t P h o t o s Back to top AirIndia0001 Member Joined: 28 Sep 2007 Posts: 391 Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 5:14 pm    Post subject: busintheair wrote: The old airport was indeed close enough, but things had to change before the airport suffers like BOM. But the authorities should take a wise decision of making the old Begumpet at least operational to select domestic flights for some time till things settle down at VOHS/Shamshabad. Exactly. The authorities here should take a leaf out of Bangkok. BKK has both the old and new airports operating side by side. The old airport takes care of domestic flights esp. those of TG and NokAir while new BKK apt handles Intl and only imp domestic sectors like HKT, CNX etc which carry sizeable connecting Intl traffic. Rgds AI1 Back to top Nimish Member Joined: 16 Dec 2006 Posts: 9757 Location: Bangalore, India Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 5:37 pm    Post subject: AirIndia0001 wrote: Exactly. The authorities here should take a leaf out of Bangkok. BKK has both the old and new airports operating side by side. The old airport takes care of domestic flights esp. those of TG and NokAir while new BKK apt handles Intl and only imp domestic sectors like HKT, CNX etc which carry sizeable connecting Intl traffic. Rgds AI1 Please.... The old Don-Muang airport was completely shut down, but was reopened because the new Suvarnabhumi one was sub-par in quality. There was never a plan to have both operational. Besides, the Indian govt (and the states involved) have signed agreements clearly stating that the old airports will be shut down. If they did not sign that in the agreement, the new airports would never have come up, and we knows there's no way in hell you can expand either the HAL airport at BLR or the Begumpet one in HYD. The reason the govt went in for private participation is that the GoI does not have the Rs. 2500 X 2 crores (approx) required to create new ones. Besides, I would hate to see another copy of the AAI's airports like BOM or DEL come up at BLR/HYD. All in all, I'm delighted to see the current airports being shut down as they are a disgrace to the cities they represent. If the govt now has changed it's mind and wants the existing airports to continue, the govt should consider handing over both the existing airports to the new operators, and then let the new operators deal with handling 2 airports instead of one, and take the AAI out of the equation altogether. That way the operators revenue stream is not compromised and they can get the returns for their investments. Plus the govt will continue to get 5% of their revenues (not profits) as the "concession fee" - so the govt. should be quite happy with the situation. Why is the govt not talking about handing over the existing Begumpet or HAL airport to the new private players? If they're so concerned about keeping the old airports open, that seems to be the only possible way out. _________________ We miss you Nalini! Back to top karatecatman Guest Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 12:19 am    Post subject: Guess what's happening at Begumpet?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Has become a large cricket pitch!! Local teams are now invading the tarmac to play cricket almost the whole day. And "ex"-Begumpet employees can also be seen playing cricket and cards in front of the terminal!!!!! Back to top crew320 Member Joined: 20 Dec 2006 Posts: 301 Location: New Delhi Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 12:35 am    Post subject: WHAT !!!! I'll be landing in Shamshabad today (27th March) and will be proceeding to Begumpet later on. Hopefully, will get to play a few games. aM _________________ M y - J e t P h o t o s Back to top busintheair Member Joined: 29 Sep 2007 Posts: 273 Location: BOM Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 12:43 am    Post subject: Sorry for deviating from the main topic. But I guess we need some fun! So now Begumpet employees will launch a new ICL/IPL team- BEGUMPET BAADSHAHS! And the matches will be played on the longest pitch in the world - 10000FT runway!!! ILS guided bowling, with Glide/Slope so that the ball perfectly descends on the bat; even in low visibility... CAT I ball approach lighting system for the batsmen to see the ball! Special control tower (ATC tower) better known as Cricket Control Tower; for umpires. And the microphones will serve as mics for blah-commentators who are more eager than the players . Radar to locate balls which jump the airport boundary through sixes. (c) busintheair! _________________ http://www.jetphotos.net/showphotos.php?userid=32348 http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?photographersearch=Sreenath+Yellamrazu Back to top airindia787 Member Joined: 18 Nov 2007 Posts: 770 Location: DAB & ZTF Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 12:48 am    Post subject: busintheair wrote: Sorry for deviating from the main topic. But I guess we need some fun! So now Begumpet employees will launch a new ICL/IPL team- BEGUMPET BAADSHAHS! And the matches will be played on the longest pitch in the world - 10000FT runway!!! ILS guided bowling, with Glide/Slope so that the ball perfectly descends on the bat; even in low visibility... CAT I ball approach lighting system for the batsmen to see the ball! Special control tower (ATC tower) better known as Cricket Control Tower; for umpires. And the microphones will serve as mics for blah-commentators who are more eager than the players . Radar to locate balls which jump the airport boundary through sixes. (c) busintheair! hahahahaha! funny _________________ http://openflights.org/user/akumanduri Back to top busintheair Member Joined: 29 Sep 2007 Posts: 273 Location: BOM Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 12:40 am    Post subject: Ground handlers cheated. Source: http://tinyurl.com/3yd3bw The international ground handlers of the airport - Bobba Menezes and IA-SATS - are now accusing the airport developer GMR of breaching the contract. According to the original agreement between the three parties, GMR cannot outsource ground handling services to any other company. However, domestic airlines are using their own staff for ground handling. The ground handlers are fuming as well as it means a loss of Rs 140 crore. Each company had invested in Euro-3 compliant equipment and had trained their staff along international standards. Now they are being forced to keep off the domestic terminal and service only international carriers. Menezes and IA-SATS refuse to say anything on record. They fear that any legal action from their side will ruin their business prospects in India. But they are angry. However, GMR says it has little choice in the matter. “The ministry has ordered us to allow airlines to use their own staff. So we can't do anything about it. We're forced to do this,” says VP, Corporate Planning and Risk Management, GMR, A Viswanath. That's not the only issue. A Greenfield airport is supposed to use only Euro-3 compliant and battery operated equipment. But with the airlines taking care of ground services, farm tractors have made their entry into the airport. _________________ http://www.jetphotos.net/showphotos.php?userid=32348 http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?photographersearch=Sreenath+Yellamrazu Back to top Nimish Member Joined: 16 Dec 2006 Posts: 9757 Location: Bangalore, India Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 8:43 am    Post subject: Oh Jeez - this is ridiculous. I do hope that the 2 firms can sue GMR and then all 3 get together and sue the MoCA... _________________ We miss you Nalini! Back to top sammyk Member Joined: 20 Dec 2006 Posts: 2719 Location: Austin, TX Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 9:13 am    Post subject: What is with the farm tractors? I can't stand them. Are they that cheap, even to operate? You'd think they'd get some new electric GSE. Back to top QF124 Member Joined: 28 Mar 2008 Posts: 52 Location: Sydney, AU Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 9:56 am    Post subject: sammyk wrote: What is with the farm tractors? I can't stand them. Are they that cheap, even to operate? You'd think they'd get some new electric GSE. Apologies to all the mates for making a rude start on this forum but i guess our Texas american mate seems to have forgotten that airline industry doesnt run on whims and fancies of aviation fans who find certain ground equipment not hot enough to their eye...... There is a cost involved to it. If the damm farm tractor is cheaper to operate and does the job well then lets get the job done cheers... Back to top avbuff Member Joined: 22 Dec 2006 Posts: 5031 Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 10:01 am    Post subject: QF124 wrote: sammyk wrote: What is with the farm tractors? I can't stand them. Are they that cheap, even to operate? You'd think they'd get some new electric GSE. Apologies to all the mates for making a rude start on this forum but i guess our Texas american mate seems to have forgotten that airline industry doesnt run on whims and fancies of aviation fans who find certain ground equipment not hot enough to their eye...... There is a cost involved to it. If the damm farm tractor is cheaper to operate and does the job well then lets get the job done cheers... Hi, QF124 Welcome to airliners-india.net! It would be great if you can introduce yourself at the following thread. http://airlinersindia.s4.bizhat.com/viewtopic.php?p=37316#37316 BTW, are you a regul;ar on the Qantas' BOM - SYD flight ? Back to top sammyk Member Joined: 20 Dec 2006 Posts: 2719 Location: Austin, TX Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 10:21 am    Post subject: QF124 wrote: sammyk wrote: What is with the farm tractors? I can't stand them. Are they that cheap, even to operate? You'd think they'd get some new electric GSE. Apologies to all the mates for making a rude start on this forum but i guess our Texas american mate seems to have forgotten that airline industry doesnt run on whims and fancies of aviation fans who find certain ground equipment not hot enough to their eye...... There is a cost involved to it. If the damm farm tractor is cheaper to operate and does the job well then lets get the job done cheers... At least you admit your rudeness up front. Anyways, I asked if they indeed cost less to operate. I'd imagine they cheaper to purchase. It's not really about looks either. Sure they're ugly but they are more pollutive, noisier, and likely less efficient than their electric or even purpose built diesel counterparts. Back to top QF124 Member Joined: 28 Mar 2008 Posts: 52 Location: Sydney, AU Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 12:04 pm    Post subject: [quote="sammyk"] QF124 wrote: At least you admit your rudeness up front. Anyways, I asked if they indeed cost less to operate. I'd imagine they cheaper to purchase. It's not really about looks either. Sure they're ugly but they are more pollutive, noisier, and likely less efficient than their electric or even purpose built diesel counterparts. My american mate what are you talking about ??? First you quote you cant stand them. Then you say its aint about the looks while you are quick enough to add that you find them ugly... I fail to understand what is wrong in using farm tractors... Since each of your airline is doing individual baggage handling they are using the cheapest and efficient ground equip available. Pollutive u guys are euro 2 compliant isnt it , then the noise, c,mon matie your ATR,s and Airbus and boeings makes a bigger fuss when it comes to sound than that puny tractor Had it been your doe u might have used horse drawn baggage carts forget about the tractors and not made such crazy statements... Bottom line they are cost effective and cheaper to operate thats why they are there even we use farm tractors at certain aussie airports......... cheers....... Back to top karatecatman Guest Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 4:32 pm    Post subject: busintheair wrote: Sorry for deviating from the main topic. But I guess we need some fun! So now Begumpet employees will launch a new ICL/IPL team- BEGUMPET BAADSHAHS! And the matches will be played on the longest pitch in the world - 10000FT runway!!! ILS guided bowling, with Glide/Slope so that the ball perfectly descends on the bat; even in low visibility... CAT I ball approach lighting system for the batsmen to see the ball! (c) busintheair! Now, kids play cricket at Hyderabad's old airport http://sify.com/news/fullstory.php?id=14631389 Back to top sammyk Member Joined: 20 Dec 2006 Posts: 2719 Location: Austin, TX Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 5:05 pm    Post subject: QF124 wrote: My american mate what are you talking about ??? First you quote you cant stand them. Then you say its aint about the looks while you are quick enough to add that you find them ugly... It was my opinion. Back to top stealthpilot Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 2325 Location: BLR, DXB Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 11:04 am    Post subject: QF124 wrote: Bottom line they are cost effective and cheaper to operate thats why they are there even we use farm tractors at certain aussie airports......... Actually the bottom line is they shouldn’t be there in the first place. The parties involved signed a contract basically saying that the airport cannot outsource ground handling to any other company. On the basis of that understanding, these 2 firms invested over $30 million. They are Euro 3 compliant which is great (although I get the argument that the APU probably makes more noise than any ground vehicle). You do make a point about looks/noise, but going along that line why build a brand new airport in the first place? Why not just expand Begumpet and keep things ancient, low cost and ugly? _________________ eP007 Back to top sammyk Member Joined: 20 Dec 2006 Posts: 2719 Location: Austin, TX Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 11:19 am    Post subject: My "looks" comment was just a personal opinion. I really have nothing against how a tractor looks, just how they look at an airport. With that said, if using those tractors is the most efficient way of tugging luggage carts then I'm all for it. I don't think that's the case though as everyone would be using them. I'm also quite aware that they are in use in other countries. Does that mean India should use them too? Perhaps at some tiny airport in the middle of nowhere that can barely handle an A320 but at a brand new state of the art airport? C'mon. Back to top QF124 Member Joined: 28 Mar 2008 Posts: 52 Location: Sydney, AU Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 2:09 pm    Post subject: stealthpilot wrote: Actually the bottom line is they shouldn’t be there in the first place. The parties involved signed a contract basically saying that the airport cannot outsource ground handling to any other company. On the basis of that understanding, these 2 firms invested over $30 million. They are Euro 3 compliant which is great (although I get the argument that the APU probably makes more noise than any ground vehicle). You do make a point about looks/noise, but going along that line why build a brand new airport in the first place? Why not just expand Begumpet and keep things ancient, low cost and ugly? Mates its more of a policy related issue . No where in the world an airport dictates terms to airlines as to who can do their ground handling and i am sure none of ur airlines would be a party to it as it leds to monopoly. I dont knw much about the old HYD as we dont fly there but my mates in SQ do comment that all flights to the old airport had a payload restriction in place. Besides you gotta have space for expansion and i believe this one was right in the middle of the city.... Back to top stealthpilot Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 2325 Location: BLR, DXB Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 4:04 pm    Post subject: QF124 wrote: Mates its more of a policy related issue . No where in the world an airport dictates terms to airlines as to who can do their ground handling and i am sure none of ur airlines would be a party to it as it leds to monopoly. The GoI was the one who came out with the ground handling policy, not the airport/AI/SATS/Bobba Menzies- they bid for the contract based on a set policy. Besides, there is no monopoly here- duopoly maybe. Anyway the point is airlines knew about this ages ago. So if the airlines have a choice- and everything conformed to the new rules what gives them the right to throw a late fit and bring their own equipment? Sure the ground handling may be more expensive, but I find it hard to believe any of that was news to them. The ground handlers at HYD (I believe) also had standards for the equipment used. And if it had to be battery operated or Euro 2 or whatever, then the farm tractors have no business there. It's not an attack on tractors or farmers at all. _________________ eP007 Back to top vt-ala Member Joined: 08 Apr 2008 Posts: 440 Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 10:14 am    Post subject: A bit on the ground handling issue at Shamshabad. Each airline knew months in advance that they'd have to shift to the new airport and also tie up with the new ground handlers. One big reason why only 2 ground handlers were chosen, was to reduce congestion on the tarmac caused by multiple vehicles owned by each airline. Some airlines won't have more than 3-4 flights out of HYD but still own and operate the same number of vehicles as the one operating 20. AAI allowed each and every airline to do their own ground handling which led to worse traffic jams inside BOM and DEL airports than the ones on the city roads. It also has led to numerous accidents including deaths in both BOM and DEL. But the airlines have refused to co-operate, and citing reasons like pricing and have arm-twised MOCA (not GMR) into allowing them to conduct their own ground handling at Shamshabad. 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