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747-237 Member

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Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 9:53 pm Post subject: IAF becomes sole Jaguar operator |
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Oman has retired its last four operational Sepecat Jaguars, with the strike aircraft carrying out a disbandment flypast with 8 Sqn at its Thumrait air base on 6 August.
Muscat's retirement of the Jaguar leaves the Indian air force as sole operator of the Anglo-French type. Flightglobal's MiliCAS database records the service as having 161 Sepecat- and Hindustan Aeronautics-supplied examples in use, with production continuing by the latter.
http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/oman-retires-last-jaguar-strike-aircraft-402605/ |
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Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2014 5:40 pm Post subject: |
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Whats the IAF Logic for continuining it in service. _________________ Think of the Brighter side !!! |
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Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 9:50 pm Post subject: |
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IAF's Jaguars are now heavily modified with Darin 3 updates. These updates suit its specific role. Moreover they are in substantial numbers and retiring them now with no replacement will affect IAFs capability. |
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Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 8:51 am Post subject: |
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If the airframe is capable of taking so many upgrades, I'd say its still one tough bird.
In any case, there hasnt been any significant upgrade in the world of military combat aircraft since F22 Raptor. And there are problems there too.
The F35 JSF , in my opinion, is an abject failure. Its just a race to salvage prestige for the US now.
So, the Sukhoi Su30s, Mig-29s, F15s, F16, still rule, along with the occasional Typhoons and Rafales. |
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HAWK21M Member

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Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 3:23 pm Post subject: |
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shivendrashukla wrote: | IAF's Jaguars are now heavily modified with Darin 3 updates. These updates suit its specific role. Moreover they are in substantial numbers and retiring them now with no replacement will affect IAFs capability. |
Whats the replacement options in terms of type available......... _________________ Think of the Brighter side !!! |
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shivendrashukla Member

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Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 5:11 pm Post subject: |
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Bombers, interceptors etc are classifications of the past. Now MRCA is the thing. These type of aircraft can switch roles during a turnaround. From being a bomber to an interceptor, just replace the store and configure the software and we are all set to go.
Jaguars are set to fly till 2025. Rafael will most likely be the replacement. |
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Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2016 7:08 am Post subject: |
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Looks like they are gonna be around for a while.
http://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/defense/2016-10-05/indian-air-force-confirms-jaguar-re-engine-plan
Indian Air Force Confirms Jaguar Re-engine Plan
October 5, 2016
The Indian Air Force (IAF) has confirmed that it will re-engine its fleet of Anglo-French Jaguar strike aircraft. The plan was discussed by IAF Chief of Air Staff Arup Raha during his annual press conference this week.
Honeywell is to supply 270 F125IN turbofan engines to replace the twin Rolls-Royce Adour Mk 821s on apporoximately 120 Jaguars. The F125 is 600 pounds lighter and should enable 25-percent-shorter hot-and-high takeoffs. Raha said India’s Jaguars have become overweight and underpowered because of avionics and systems upgrades. Honeywell will first be required to conduct a trial modification of the Jaguars with the new engines. The plan was first mooted in 2012.
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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2016 7:04 am Post subject: |
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https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/ugraded-jaguar-achieves-indian-ioc-431779/
Ugraded Jaguar achieves Indian IOC
24 November, 2016
The Indian air force has declared initial operation clearance for the latest avionics upgrade to its Sepecat Jaguar attack aircraft.
Under the Darin (display, attack, range and inertial navigation) III programme, three Jaguars have received upgraded avionics packages installed by Hindustan Aeronautics (HAL).
HAL says in a statement that the core of the upgrade is a new open architecture mission computer, as well as an engine and flight instrument system, smart multifunction display, fire control radar and a new inertial navigation system with GPS and Geodetic height correction.
Solid-state video and flight data recorders have also been installed, as has an identification friend or foe system.
The design and development of the new avionics suite was carried out by HAL’s mission and combat system research and design centre, with the overhaul completed at its Bengaluru facility.
Flight Fleets Analyzer shows that India is the sole remaining operator of the Jaguar, with 160 in service. Reports from India claim that around 120 of the aircraft will receive the Darin-III upgrade.
The Jaguars are used in ground and maritime attack roles, and the upgraded types are set to receive MBDA's ASRAAM short-range air-to-air missile and Textron Defence Systems' CBU-105 Sensor Fused Weapon.
Delhi has also planned to re-engine the Jaguar fleet with HAL-built Honeywell F125-IN engines, but that programme appears to have suffered major delays, with little progress announced to date.
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Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 8:01 pm Post subject: |
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http://www.defensenews.com/air/2017/07/17/india-begins-talks-for-french-jaguar-fighters/
India begins talks for French Jaguar fighters
July 17 2017
India has begun discreet negotiations with France for the purchase of 31 grounded strike fighters previously used by the French Air Force.
The French government made the offer of sale for the Jaguar fighters about six months ago, and India is actively pursuing the opportunity, according to a top Indian Ministry of Defence official.
The offer will be actively discussed during an official visit to France July 17-20 of India's Air Force chief, Air Chief Marshal Birender Singh Dhanoa, the MoD official noted.
The government official refused to comment on the price offered by France for the Jaguar fighters, but did say India is actively considering acquiring them after proper refurbishment.
Meanwhile, India's state-owned Hindustan Aeronautics Limited is undertaking the modernization process of Jaguar DARIN III twin-seat aircraft. So far, three upgraded Jaguar DARIN III prototypes have been developed and about 60 Jaguar aircraft will be modernized in three years' time, which will give operational life to the aircraft for another 20 years.
HAL has built 120 Jaguar deep-penetration strike aircraft under technology transfer from BAE Systems of the United Kingdom.
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Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 10:52 pm Post subject: |
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good idea to go for them. Also, life extension of existing bunch by another 20 yrs will go a long way along with their re-engine program.
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Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2017 7:01 am Post subject: |
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https://defenceaviationpost.com/31-ex-french-jaguar-jets-given-free-charge-india/
31 Ex-french Jaguar Jets To Be Given Free Of Charge To India?
July 28, 2017
According to report prepared by French magazine ” Le Pointe “, confirms that India and France are holding discussions on possible transfer of 31 grounded Jaguar strike fighters previously used by the French Air Force but retired from 2005 on wards to India to be used for spares to support the existing IAF’s Jaguar fleet.
” Le Pointe ” reports says that Ex-French Jaguar strike fighters will be transferred free of charge and will not be sold to India as per earlier media reports. a team of engineers which visited France with Indian Air Force Commander-in-Chief, Air Chief Marshal Birender Singh Dhanoa earlier this month might have already checked stored Jaguar to carryout an internal assessment of the condition of this grounded retired jets and detail report will soon be submitted to government and Indian air force top tier.
Transferred aircraft will enable IAF which is the lone operator of the aircraft type to maintain this aircraft till 2034 and recovered spare parts from French aircraft will help India immensely to maintain this ageing jets since new spares are not manufactured anymore. India and France will have a win win situation since France will get rid of jets which no one wants and has low resale value due to lack of operators and India will get them free of cost which will help India maintain its current fleet till they retire.
Transfer of French Jaguar to India is also seen by Le Pointe as an attempt to create good will in India for possible second Rafale orders from India over its all contracted 36 jets. India already is carrying out DARIN III upgrade on its ageing Jaguar fleet to keep them advance and will also integrate Israeli AESA radar as part of huge Jaguar modernization project.
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Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2017 7:38 am Post subject: |
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seems like the idea is both to fly and cannibalize for spares.... free of charge is indeed a sweet deal. Though I feel that repeat order of Rafale is unlikely, unless manufactured domestically. That also is unlikely as IAF will be doing trials of F-16 and SAAB Grippen, so Rafale is no where in the picture. My two cents
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