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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 2:59 pm    Post subject: Amdavad Javanoo !! Reply with quote

( I can't for the life of me get the images to become upright. Help!!)


Amdavad Javanoo !!

This one's going to be short, like the duration of the flight.

* Three of us recently flew one-way BOM-AMD on Indian Airlines (yes, I know, they've merged and all, but why taint poor IC?).

* I booked the tickets using Citibank's Premier Miles website (to take advantage of bonus points & Rs 1,500 discount vouchers):


* Went to ai.com to add the itinerary to my profile and I was able to select seats (and change my selection as often as I liked.



* I must have got over a dozen texts and emails from AI reminding me of my flight, starting from 3 weeks before. It's either too much (AI) or to little (Jet).

* The day before the flight, online check-in worked effortlessly and the rather professional-looking boarding pass was printed.

* Traffic was light for some reason, so we got to the airport by 16h15, nearly 90 minutes before departure.

* No queue to find a spot to stop the car.

* No queue to enter the terminal.

* Not much of a queue to check-in; of the three check-in aisles, only half of one was operational.


* They didn't re-print the boarding pass onto their card stock, by the way.

* And no queue at security, who, by the way, didn't ask for the home-printed boarding pass to be stamped by the airline.

* Since we had time, we went to the food court which is just past security and has a pretty decent selection of outlets, everything from pizza to dosa to beer to chop suey to khandvi.



* Bird's eye view of 1-C from the food court.


* The other two wanted a smoke, so I went into the crack den too, to savour the second-hand (since I've given up).


* Boarding was from the old 1-A, so we set off towards our gate.

* View from the upstairs of the downstairs section of 1-A (I presume it's for the bus gates?). What a marked difference in décor and brightness between old and new.


* Our flight had a boarding bridge. Looking around, the only airlines using boarding bridges were IC and Indigo. Jet, of course, are too cheap and clueless.


* I expected the plane to be a 319, but it turned out to be a 321. Not sure if it was a sub or a planned change. But the flight was full.

* Boarding was efficient and we entered a typical AI plane : tally but clean, and sporting a bodily function-inspired décor. And lotes of phoreners seem to have also decided that “Amdavad javanoo”


* We pushed back and after a quick taxi were airborne 5 minutes ahead of schedule.

* The plane had IFE screens that were switched on and throwaway Chinese earphones in the seat pocket. Here's the map:


* Though it was November, they still had the October magazine in the seat pockets


* Inside the magazine, a Jet-inspired timetable, that showed the on-the-hour BOM-DEL flights have been around for a while:


* Unlike the nasty AI, the IC crew were not enormous, lazy, old or khadoos. They were young, proportioned, efficient, helpful, happy and smiling.



* They handed out the snack pack (peanuts, imitation Frooti and tissue paper in a ziplock). And also came around offering water / tea / coffee to anyone who wanted any. Of course, they had to poke people awake if they were sleeping “Your snack sir!”. I suppose some things won't change.



* Before you knew it, Amdavad Pochvanoo !!

* We landed nearly 15 minutes early.

* Where, again, we had a boarding bridge.

* Where, again, we saw Indigo at a boarding bridge.

* Where, again, Jet were too cheap and clueless.

* We had no bags, so were were off and out and in the car in nothing flat.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice small TR there sir.
I enjoyed it.

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Jet, of course, are too cheap and clueless.

Well, I disagree there sir. For once, in 2012, favouring 9W:

Not one, but two.


And also outside BOM.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good to see you in this section after quite a while, Jason.
BOM's T1-A and T1-C are very nice places, with enough for the aviation enthusiast and the glutton (both of which go ell with my two prime interests).
Thnaks for sharing this with us!
Cheers, Sumantra.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for sharing a quick TR on AI.

As much you would disagree, in the domestic arena AI is very well behaved, operated with decent efficiency and a pretty decent hub at DEL. I'm not saying things are stellar, but they are working efficiently. And I need not tell you their website works pretty efficiently as you have experienced that yourself.

As opposed to my sisters experience on 9W on BOM - DOH 2 days ago. There were drop down screens in the plane which just dropped down and nothing else, not even the moving map. More details in the 9W thread.

Jet is indeed cheap and useless.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow - sounds like AI seems to have done almost everything right. The thing that impressed me most was swapping the equipment to a 321 due to the high loads - it's this agility (if it truly exists) that can help AI no end.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sumantra wrote:
Good to see you in this section after quite a while, Jason.
BOM's T1-A and T1-C are very nice places, with enough for the aviation enthusiast and the glutton (both of which go ell with my two prime interests).
Thnaks for sharing this with us!
Cheers, Sumantra.

Thanks. I didn't have much to share, since I haven't really been anywhere in a long time, except one trip to Nantes that was a boring DF-AF combo and nit worth writing about. Except that a routine 4-day trip turned into almost a month, but that's unrelated to the travel experience.

avbuff wrote:
As much you would disagree, in the domestic arena AI is very well behaved, operated with decent efficiency and a pretty decent hub at DEL. I'm not saying things are stellar, but they are working efficiently. And I need not tell you their website works pretty efficiently as you have experienced that yourself.

Oh not at all. That's partly why I still refer to IC and AI separately. I've been on record several times as saying IC are just fine and I think IC married down when they merged with AI. Hence also why I began with "why taint poor IC?"

In fact, I choose Indian Airlines over the others wherever possible, though they're making it increasingly difficult with rubbish timings to some places (AMD being a big example).

As much as I call for AQI to die immediately, I'll be perfectly happy with IC remaining and flourishing.

Nimish wrote:
Wow - sounds like AI seems to have done almost everything right. The thing that impressed me most was swapping the equipment to a 321 due to the high loads - it's this agility (if it truly exists) that can help AI no end.

Nimish, honestly, this TR more or less described every single flight I have taken on IC over the last several years. I have always found them to be perfectly good and efficient and acceptable for the short-ish domestic flights. Also, at least when flying from BOM, their own terminal makes the experience that much better.

Honestly, the only thing that makes IC worse than the others is the crowd they tend to attract. But that's not always true and certainly isn't a deal-breaker for me.

Fortunately, a lot of the IC culture still remains and operationally it seems they are a distinct entity from Air India.

And speaking of the Fat Duchess, I won't even let my corpse travel that airline if I had my way.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 5:02 pm    Post subject: Odds & Ends Reply with quote

A few random things:

- Overall a perfectly good job by Indian Airlines. I'll give them a 9 on 10, all things considered.

- AI/IC really need to do something about their schedules, at least to Ahmedabad. On a busy route such as BOM-AMD, they have four flights a day : 2 am, 5 am, 6 pm and 6.30 pm. And only one of those is a domestic flight; the rest are those dumb "connectors".

- Our IDs were checked only once : by the CISF wallah at the terminal entrance. And that's hardly a valid check at all. After that, no one asked to see any ID, not even once.

- When we got to check-in, a bit of drama with a woman was just ending ahead of us. When it was our turn, the agent apologised and said the obnoxious woman was an Air India employee, was flying for free anyway, and must have come back 10 times demanding something or the other. "These Air India people think we should pay them to fly." I'm not surprised at that level of entitlement.

- One of my companions was returning AMD-BOM the next day and wanted to change his flight, so we figured we'd go to the ticket desk after checking in. Turns out AI's ticket desk cannot be accessed from inside the terminal, and, of course, the CISF pandu wouldn't let us out. How dumb is that?

- Nice as it as to use 1A at Santa Cruz, it led me to think that Jet really should look into the possibility of swapping. It makes sense on a lot of levels – not just the fact that IC are nowhere near big in BOM as they used to be and 1B is a right royal mess. Doing so can enable Jet to offer a lot of things at little – if any – additional cost. Just like Sahar, where AI still hog up an entire section, even though they have barely a handful of flights remaining.
But then if it comes down to improving the passenger experience – even when at a minimal cost – Jet's not interested.

- I always thought AI's self-service boarding pass looked rather professional. Perfectly formatted and sized to fit on a standard sheet of paper (unlike the blue and yellow mess, with the relevant information etc. Turns out other airlines have the exact same thing too (this is from someone else's report on TAAG):

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 6:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Odds & Ends Reply with quote

jasepl wrote:
Turns out other airlines have the exact same thing too (this is from someone else's report on TAAG):

SITA in action. From what we hear, it wasn't exactly the best service provider, but I guess the level of service is quite acceptable, overall.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 12:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Short, crisp TR in true jasepl-style!

You have already replied in details to the queries on your TR, I have a quick one; There were quite a few back-packers on that flight...where they were going, any guess? Gandhi Ashram?
Just Curious.
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