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Awesome TR, dude!
Good to see 9W finally make it work, and the fact that they will convert it to Daily, sounds even more better!  |
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AKLDELNonstop
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Very nice report Bala. Really appreciate the effort that goes into creating one of these. I am yet to write my first one.
Looks like 9W is great even on Y. But here's a question for you - given the amount of international flying you do, are you not able to negotiate flights in J with your company? Surely its not easy flying JNB-BOM and then next day flying to DXB etc.
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| AKLDELNonstop wrote: | Very nice report Bala. Really appreciate the effort that goes into creating one of these. I am yet to write my first one.
Looks like 9W is great even on Y. But here's a question for you - given the amount of international flying you do, are you not able to negotiate flights in J with your company? Surely its not easy flying JNB-BOM and then next day flying to DXB etc. |
Indian IT companies don't offer this benefit - neither do most American companies operating here in India. Of all the companies I've worked for, only 1 offered J travel (if the client was willing to pay for it).
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Bala - lovely report - the route seems to be doing very well indeed - good for 9W to have managed to turn this route around!
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Bala, thank you for sharing yet another superb trip report with us. You seem to have carved a niche for yourself - your descriptions are in a very nice mix of the traditional and the contemporary. Your language is a nice mix of the SMS lingo, netizen email language, as well as the traditional English usage - all of which adds to the quality of the vivid descriptions! Your numerous pictures alone tell half the story. Right from the check-in counters, the `behind-the-scenes' picture and description of where the luggage goes, the bus squat-in, the boarding, and even the power-port picture and description - all are a real pleasure to go through. It gives the reader a feeling of being there, and being talked to by a friend who describes fine points in good detail, in a very friendly tone. The parting YouTube video was nice, too - to see two 380s cross each other, and one take off. The powerports: I guess this is gradually becoming quite standard. Yes, it is uncomfortable, to have to lift the adjacent seat cushion, and put in the adapter before one's neighbour comes in. Not that it is very comfortable with one's own seat - the Air India 777s also have similar powerports. Has Jet introduced in-flight WiFi also? Or were you doing your emails off-line? The food and service looks very good, and ditto for the loads. This bodes well for Jet - I have heard similar good reports on the DEL-BRU segment from a senior colleague.
Thanks once again for a wonderful report,
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Good TR bala,
BTW the IFE does show Chinese and Italian movies and the number of meal options go beyond India. Now at least jasepl will have a lot lesser reasons to complain! |
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| Nimish wrote: | | AKLDELNonstop wrote: | Very nice report Bala. Really appreciate the effort that goes into creating one of these. I am yet to write my first one.
Looks like 9W is great even on Y. But here's a question for you - given the amount of international flying you do, are you not able to negotiate flights in J with your company? Surely its not easy flying JNB-BOM and then next day flying to DXB etc. |
Indian IT companies don't offer this benefit - neither do most American companies operating here in India. Of all the companies I've worked for, only 1 offered J travel (if the client was willing to pay for it). |
It is unfortunate that companies dont offer this benefit in India. Typically most western/Eurpean HQ companies have a policy of either 4 or 6 hour and above by which one can fly J class out from Europe or America.
Even most companies who have a rejional HQ in Singapore typically follow either a 4 or 6 hour window. |
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| Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 6:52 pm Post subject: Re: Jet Airways (9W) JNB-BOM In Y |
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Nice TR bala, thanks for posting. |
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| avbuff wrote: | | Now at least jasepl will have a lot lesser reasons to complain! |
(O ye of little faith!)
Wow. Jet seem to have invented a new language (that no one speaks). What's the point of showing a movie in Chinese, when the language doesn't even exist? Idiots.
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| Nimish wrote: |
Indian IT companies don't offer this benefit - neither do most American companies operating here in India. Of all the companies I've worked for, only 1 offered J travel (if the client was willing to pay for it). |
I see. Do these rules (for American companies operating in India) also apply to US based staff flying to India or elsewhere?
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| Nimish wrote: | | Indian IT companies don't offer this benefit - neither do most American companies operating here in India. Of all the companies I've worked for, only 1 offered J travel (if the client was willing to pay for it). |
Ha! So true. And it's not restricted to IT companies.
I remember way back when, when some of my colleagues and I discovered that, even though a German client was paying for J class travel (and our employers were billing them for the J fare), they were making us travel in economy and eat the difference.
Quite the scene ensued. It was epic.
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Great report! The lunch looks yummy.
(Heena came in on the PA and was on her best!! I love the 9W sign off note - "To all guests - Welcome to India and to Fellow Indians - Welcome Home"!!)
This sign off note has been straight robbed from MH 
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Finally a TR on this sector, thanks justbala!
Looking forward to one from MXP now, hopefully?
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| AKLDELNonstop wrote: | | Nimish wrote: |
Indian IT companies don't offer this benefit - neither do most American companies operating here in India. Of all the companies I've worked for, only 1 offered J travel (if the client was willing to pay for it). |
I see. Do these rules (for American companies operating in India) also apply to US based staff flying to India or elsewhere? |
It's generally universal - hence the same company would have execs from the US also flying Y, but they'd typically use their status/ coupons to upgrade. Classic case in point is Intel - where everyone everywhere flies only Y.
Companies like IBM & GE have a whole range of rules, changing almost from team to team, sub-company to sub-company. These are the cases where the Indian subsidiary might have different rules from say a German or American one.
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| Nimish wrote: | | AKLDELNonstop wrote: | | Nimish wrote: |
Indian IT companies don't offer this benefit - neither do most American companies operating here in India. Of all the companies I've worked for, only 1 offered J travel (if the client was willing to pay for it). |
I see. Do these rules (for American companies operating in India) also apply to US based staff flying to India or elsewhere? |
It's generally universal - hence the same company would have execs from the US also flying Y, but they'd typically use their status/ coupons to upgrade. Classic case in point is Intel - where everyone everywhere flies only Y.
Companies like IBM & GE have a whole range of rules, changing almost from team to team, sub-company to sub-company. These are the cases where the Indian subsidiary might have different rules from say a German or American one. |
With the amount of cost cutting thts on, J class travel is pretty hard to come by in most companies these days, for that matter even a full fare Y tkt. The one that I work for , you need to be pretty high up the pecking order and have a flight duration of more than 6 hours to qualify for J. This is true for all our offices across the world!! The funny thing is our clients get charged for J class fares, while the actual travel is always in deep discounted Y fares!! If I am travelling on SQ, I usually shell out some from my pocket to upgrade to a mile accruing Y booking class 
Some companies highlight their flat hierarchy by tom-toming tht even their CEOs travel by Y!! |
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Thanks for all the positive feedback folks!!
@avbuff - cmon... jasepl without a crib would just not be jasepl!! The man has the god-gifted talent to spot the faintest of dark lines in the brightest of clouds!!
@sumantra - thanks for that detailed introspection of the writing!! Really appreciate that!!
@Varun - as of now MXP is the only non-Asian destination of 9W that I hv not flown to!! Hope to try tht some day!!
@theflyingsikh - from A.net i take it tht its the other way round, with MH aping 9W!! |
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@justbala: a very nice TR..!
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| justbala wrote: |
@theflyingsikh - from A.net i take it tht its the other way round, with MH aping 9W!! |
I would disagree with this one. This sign off note is usually not used on all 9w flights arriving into India. It wasnt used 2 weeks ago on my lhr-bom flight and its been a while I've been flying with 9W (funnily I record most of the inflight annoucements, Infact i've got a collection now) So I take its not a standard landing announcement. Where as with MH they used it on all flights into Malaysia that i've been on. I was quite impressed when I heard this one on MH a few yrs ago into KUL and again last yr when doing a couple of flights with them from DPS / BKK. MH announcements begin with Ladies and Gentleman, Boys and Girls Welcome on Malaysia Airline flight .......
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awesome TR justbala! Thanks a lot for sharing!
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| jasepl wrote: | | avbuff wrote: | | Now at least jasepl will have a lot lesser reasons to complain! |
(O ye of little faith!)
Wow. Jet seem to have invented a new language (that no one speaks). What's the point of showing a movie in Chinese, when the language doesn't even exist? Idiots. |
I think they probably meant Mandarin or Cantonese - or perhaps they had films in both languages. In any case, a person who speaks either language would probably know what was meant. |
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| Jaysit wrote: | | I think they probably meant Mandarin or Cantonese - or perhaps they had films in both languages. In any case, a person who speaks either language would probably know what was meant. |
Quite. Now imagine the regular uproar / ridicule desis tend to resort to when a phorener asks something on the lines of "How do you say this in Indian?" or "Sorry, I don't understand Indian."
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| jasepl wrote: | | Jaysit wrote: | | I think they probably meant Mandarin or Cantonese - or perhaps they had films in both languages. In any case, a person who speaks either language would probably know what was meant. |
Quite. Now imagine the regular uproar / ridicule desis tend to resort to when a phorener asks something on the lines of "How do you say this in Indian?" or "Sorry, I don't understand Indian." |
I guess Russel Peters sums it up the best.
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| jasepl wrote: | | Jaysit wrote: | | I think they probably meant Mandarin or Cantonese - or perhaps they had films in both languages. In any case, a person who speaks either language would probably know what was meant. |
Quite. Now imagine the regular uproar / ridicule desis tend to resort to when a phorener asks something on the lines of "How do you say this in Indian?" or "Sorry, I don't understand Indian." |
Actually it's those outside of China that insist on using Mandarin / Cantonese. China considers Mandarin to be the one Chinese language while Cantonese is just a dialect (I don't agree with this but its their viewpoint). Many people use Chinese to refer to the language. So I wouldn't call (W idiots on this. |
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