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iah87
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| That is what Boeing will say. They need to sell their planes. I hope airlines this time become more prudent in ordering aircraft. |
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| Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 8:37 pm Post subject: Re: India will need 1000 airplanes in next 20 yrs: Boeing In |
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I think their consultants or whoever came up with the numbers added a few extra zeros here and there 
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Somehow I just can't imagine a 1000 planes in the Indian skies, I wonder why?
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| iah87 wrote: | | That is what Boeing will say. They need to sell their planes. I hope airlines this time become more prudent in ordering aircraft. |
Precisely. Airframe manufacturers will continue to come out with wild estimates, give or take a few zeros  I suppose these guys do occasionally fool the general public with these funny estimates, but the general public doesn't buy commercial airliners! The people who do buy them, i.e. airlines/lessors, do their research and are far too erudite and experienced to fall for these tricks. They will act based only on their knowledge and the actual prevailing market conditions. What exactly, then, do Boeing hope to achieve with this? 
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Spiderguy252
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| Phadnis wrote: | | What exactly, then, do Boeing hope to achieve with this? |
They probably want to create a mood of optimism in the industry, and they obviously wish that such a statement will push airline companies to potentially think of purchasing new aircraft in future. In this case, Boeing has silently placed into Indian airlines' minds that they expect to sell a lot of planes by 2020, your airline is invited to take a share of the pie too.
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| Phadnis wrote: | | [ What exactly, then, do Boeing hope to achieve with this? |
I don't know how old you are anyways let me share a FACET of my life.
I was in school when emergency was declared in INDIA- 1975, that year i was bitten by the fu<£!^g neighbours dog and had to take 3 shots in my 9yrs old tummy. Subsequently COCA-COLA was banned from INDIA. one of the architects of the ban was the great ''sleeper on Railway tracks'' - George Fernandes, he said and i quote '' The annual budget of some of these USA multi-nationals are equal to or greater than the national budget of countries like INDIA, they can effect change in their (India) govt'' Boeing has far greater influence than CC. When they forecast a 1000 a/c for India they are saying '' Ride our wave and ENJOY''.
The Ghatis thought then and also now said '' India will break up'' the only thing that has changed is the country has move fwd however Ghatis like RAJ.T and other of his ilk have been still repeating the same mantra, by the way i consider myself to be a Ghati because i can read, write and speak MARATHI better than TAMIL my mother tongue, ironically my MOTHER (though TAMIL) was born n grew up in NAGPUR and is a Marathi teacher.
The above surmon is for you to start thinking and feeling positive about the change, it is only the FROG in the POND that benefits from NO CHANGE. STEP OUT of your pond and feel good about yourself, another - by the way, i am good friends of Bala Nandgaonkar the MNS brain and muscle behind RT. We worked together at AI.
India will get more than 1000 aircrafts by 2020.
JAI BHARAT JAI MAHARASTRA. |
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I believe if we take Dinesh Keskar's comments literally, there will be much to debate on.
Keskar is saying 75% of the total aircraft requirements would be the B737. Apparently, if there are proper policies, regulations in place. We can see the a HUGE B737 influx into India. Air India Express, Jet Airways, Spicejet are the airlines we are looking at, who will order them.
India is one of the few countries from where the B737s can cover a host of popular Indian destinations within the radius of the B737s range. As and when airlines are back in the growth spree, the B737s will play a phenomenal role in their expansion. |
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| avbuff wrote: | | India is one of the few countries from where the B737s can cover a host of popular Indian destinations within the radius of the B737s range. As and when airlines are back in the growth spree, the B737s will play a phenomenal role in their expansion. |
This is of course assuming that Boeing does not come up with a 737 replacement before 2020?
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| Well it is keskar who quoted that India would need 750 B737s. So it is safe to assume there maybe no replacement to the B737 per se. however there maybe tweaks/changes to the existing models. |
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Why is this not believable?
One thousand aircraft over a 20 year period. That is an average of 50 aircraft a year. This does not necessarily mean there will be 1000 additional aircraft. You have to account for aircraft retirements as well. Also the 1000 aircraft figure includes all aircraft types from all manufacturers.
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I hope they stop giving such analysis and study..and the airlines in india stop listening to them.
There simply isnt that much traffic, neither the airport infrastructure to handle soo much |
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| ameya wrote: | I hope they stop giving such analysis and study..and the airlines in india stop listening to them.
There simply isnt that much traffic, neither the airport infrastructure to handle soo much |
People are again seeing the number "1000" and forgetting the other one "2020"!
Just compare 1989 with 2009. The market for airlines (if run properly that is) is still fertile and have lot more to be explored. He only said India needs 1000 aircraft, it doesnt mean that all 1000 aircrafts will be based in India or fly strictly on Domestic routes. Nor did he mention 1000 additional aircrafts over and above the fleet size in market today. |
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I'm sure this involves replacement fleet too....So quite believeable.
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| Something tells me Boeing is using PR to make sure that their orders from AI don't get cancelled/deferred, so that he makes his "PLI". |
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sammyk
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| haree wrote: | | ameya wrote: | I hope they stop giving such analysis and study..and the airlines in india stop listening to them.
There simply isnt that much traffic, neither the airport infrastructure to handle soo much |
People are again seeing the number "1000" and forgetting the other one "2020"!
Just compare 1989 with 2009. The market for airlines (if run properly that is) is still fertile and have lot more to be explored. He only said India needs 1000 aircraft, it doesnt mean that all 1000 aircrafts will be based in India or fly strictly on Domestic routes. Nor did he mention 1000 additional aircrafts over and above the fleet size in market today. |
Indeed, however, I do think it is meant that all 1000 will be purchased/leased by India based airlines. |
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