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COUGAR · Member Joined: 01 Jan 2007 Posts: 986 Location: Bangalore

A Dornier can break even with just 5 of the 19 seats filled up. Also Pondi has a decent amount of tourist inflow which should easily fill an ATR!

The reasons for Jagsons pulling out of Pondi is deeper than we know. I suspect it has a lot to do with the Pondicherry UT govt having second thoughts on the subsidy plan. If i am not mistaken, the original idea was that the govt would subsidise the service to a certain percentage point. Jagson is run by a bunch of jokers anyway and the only reason they have lasted this far is their close relationship with a former PM of India, who even now uses Jagson's Dorniers to fly to Manali every year to compose some of his boring poetry! Not sure if its Manali or Jagsons Dornier that brings out the tragedy in the former PM's poetry!

I have said this before and I say this again: Turboprop operations are the best way forward for increasing connectivity in this country. ATR42's are the best and most comfortable option now. An 18-seater expands possibilities even more and right now that means only the Dornier. A more comfortable D228 class aircraft would open up India like never before!

Vayudoot was the best idea to have come to our babus whoch was unfortunately run into the ground. Air Deccan was well placed to take over Vayudoots unfinished business and dominate the Indian skies like never before. Unfortunately the stupid bunch of Mallus running that airline wanted the "glamour" of lfying metro routes with A320s! and look where they are going!

The LCC model actually best here more than on the Metro routes. The key to viability is to have a minimum of 2 daily flights to a station from one or more than one other point. Anything less than a 2x daily to a station means fixed costs of that station are unacceptably high which impacts your yields and anything less than a daily means you will bleed to death!
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G-BYGB · Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 2:18 pm Post subject:

I think Port Blair should have a int'l apt bcoz its a good tourist destination.They can operate direect flights to south east asia,and other parts of India.
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G-BYGB · Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 2:20 pm Post subject:

Right now they only have flights to MAA operated by IC and 9W.
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Aiel · Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 927 Location: Bangalore

CIAL registers 12.7 per cent growth in flight movement

International sector services record 10.85 per cent growth
The total aircraft movement during 2005-06 was 20,975
The growth in the domestic sector services was 15 per cent

. The total aircraft movement during the period was 20,975 as against 18,611 in the preceding fiscal, thus registering a growth rate of 12.70 per cent. International sector services recorded a growth rate of 10.85 per cent for the period with the airport handling a total of 11,444 services, compared to 10,323 services in the previous fiscal. During the period the airport handled around 300 international services a week

http://www.hindu.com/2007/01/10/stories/2007011016132100.htm
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Pratibha Industries in a joint venture with Italian Thai Development Public Company has secured a Rs 122 crore contract from Airport Authority of India for construction of New International Terminal Building of Ahmedabad Airport.
In a communique to the Bombay Stock Exchange, Pratibha Industries said the project involves construction of the new international terminal building, parking areas, electrical, air-conditioning and building management system.
The project would be executed in two years, says the UNI report.

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AKLDELNonstop · Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 1066 Location: Auckland

Thats why DEL and BOM were privatised. And which genius built the new ATQ terminal without aerobridges? What was he thinking?

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AKLDELNonstop · Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 1066 Location: Auckland

Well Reliance might be interested in ATQ. Its a possibility I dont know. And I guess it could be privatised to just an Indian company without the need for a consortium with foriegn partners given the relatively smaller scale of operations there.

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XBValk · Member Joined: 27 Jan 2007 Posts: 124 Location: NYC/COK

None of the airport will ever beat what COK has become, Design wise... Very Happy

the_380 · Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 7:43 pm Post subject:

Just back from a trip to BBI....
No damn construction work has taken place. its the same old airport except more flights have been started to and from BBI.
Aircraft landed at RPR before reaching BBI. RPR is simply horrible (only 2 aircrafts at a time....9W 737 had to wait 25 mins till it could get a bay)
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kam · Member Joined: 27 Jan 2007 Posts: 54 Location: CVT

[quote=" meanwhile punjabis will continue to use ATQ more and more for the convinience only.[/quote]

The above is certainly true, but how much of a convinience is it. From a UK point of view the airlines flying to ATQ arent really the best T5, HY, GM(Air Solvakia) and AI. Ive heard horror stories from freinds and relatives about delays service etc. Havent heard anything bad about 9Ws service from LHR yet and the fares are normally sky high (pardon the pun) compared to DEL the best your looking at is saving a couple or 3 hours on the road with NH1 between Delhi and Punjab improving year by year and air conditoning in virtually every car give me DEL every time and the local police around ATQ seem to be be very high consumers of "chai and pani" Wink

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kam · Member Joined: 27 Jan 2007 Posts: 54 Location: CVT

Talking from my own personal experince I went with my cousin to pick up my Dad from ATQ, it was a late night arrival and we were flaged down at a check point and asked the usual where you going where you come from etc etc.

The long and short of it was currency changed hands and we where allowed to go on our way. This was a number of kilometers from ATQ itself but I have heard similar stories from relatives and freinds.

tsk911 · Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 223 Location: DEL

Hey people,
I have put a request on Amritsar portal ( http://www.amritsar.com/cgi-bin/Amritsar/YaBB.pl?board=flights ) for their members who are participating in the aviation section to join us. I was overwhelmed to see their interest and their knowledge and thought of inviting them, so that we may have all the latest developments from ATQ and other airports in the Punjab region.
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G-BYGB · Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 11:28 pm Post subject:

What most Indian apts need right now are the parallel runways.With the no.of flights ,both domestic and int'l expected to increase every year,the apt authorities should act fast and build another runway to the existing ones at all apts.Otherwise they'll end up like another MUM and DEL int'l apts which had to hurry it up at the eleventh hour when the apts were already overcrowded.
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Aiel · Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 927 Location: Bangalore

Collision course on land

The relationship between civil aviation and the military is so close that it often goes unnoticed.

As many as 28 airports regularly used by civil airlines are actually IAF or navy bases. Landing in Pune, Bangalore, Goa, Srinagar or Chandigarh, fliers seldom realise they are at a military base, even if they notice IAF fighters parked at a distance.

Their planes park in what is called a “civil enclave,” where passenger facilities like check-in counters and baggage collection are located.

The Ministry of Civil Aviation (MoCA) believes that with airlines opening up new destinations, it makes good economic sense to create “civil enclaves” at existing military airfields, rather than spend Rs 500-600 crore building a separate airport. The IAF obliged when this meant including just a couple of civil flights a day.

But now, with 14 scheduled airlines jostling for business, there is increasing friction between the IAF’s military requirements and the AAI’s need to provide infrastructure to a gaggle of airlines, all clamouring for more operating time and better civilian facilities.

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Nimish · Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 4:43 pm Post subject:

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The ministry of Defence has given its preliminary nod and has set some pre-condition for the expansion and modernisation of Bagdogra airport in north Bengal, says NDTV.
The pre-conditions includes full right for the IAF in using, maintaining and restricting the runway and unaffected IAF operations during the proposed construction and expansion work of the airport. After the plan passed by the Civil Aviation ministry gets cleared by the Defence, it would be refereed to the Airport Authority of India, which has the final permission rights.
The Bengal Government is trying to improve the status and facilities of Bagdogra airport because of its proximity to Nepal, Bhutan and Bangladesh. There are plans to introduce direct and international flights to Kathmandu in Nepal, Thimpu in Bhutan and Dhaka in Bangladesh besidesBangaluru, Mumbai and Chennai.
IA, Jet and Air Deccan operate from Bagdogra to Kolkata, New Delhi and Guwahati.

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Flight operations at the Jollygrant airport, Dehra Dun will besuspended for more than eight months from March 1, 2007, to carry out construction works as part of its modernisation plan.
There will be am extended runway,new terminal, air-control tower and lounges would be constructed, controller of the Jollygrant airport Ramesh Kumar said.
Rs 72 crore will be spent as part of the expansion plan which is being undertaken by the Airport Authority of India. The expansion work is likely to be completed by the end of 2007. Air Deccan operates an ATr between Dehradun and New Delhi.
Once the upgradation work is completed, the airport would be ready to receive Boeing 737 and Airbus 320 aircraft. The runway is being broadened to 45 feet from the present 23 feet and its length would be doubled from the present 3,500 feet.
Efforts are also on to connect Dehradun with Mumbai and Chennai.
Meanwhile, nearly 65 families of the Tehri dam oustees, who were settled near the airport in 1980s, have been rehabilitated following the construction works, says the UNI report.

XBValk · Member Joined: 27 Jan 2007 Posts: 124 Location: NYC/COK

Does anyone have any news on COK? Why is there hardly any talking about Cochin?

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It is really funny that some city leaders are rooting for airports with 747-capable runways. The Gulbarga dream is truly hilarious!
But on a serious note, it is also a case of mis-directed priorities I think. I think the resources of AAI should be focused on the B categories like Pune, Ahmedabad, Lucknow etc.
BOM,DEL , BLR are already on course.
But how about this- there should be a public-private equity partnership and smaller cities can develop and promote themselves-and attract airlines.
So Gulbargians, dont lose heart!

lambuhere1 · Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 9:50 am Post subject:

On the NE front

I believe AAI has already started work on renewing the runway at NEW COOCH BIHAR. which was previously existing.

They have enclosed the boundary wall now and work has started at a pace to make it open by mid or end of this year.

And AIR DECCAN has expressed interest to start flights as early as possible to NCB.

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COUGAR · Member Joined: 01 Jan 2007 Posts: 986 Location: Bangalore

COK is not quite completely private: Air India holds a stake in COK.

So AI has a monoploy over ground-services at COK. Even Jet sahara etc have to depend on AI for ground handling at COK.

Ever checked in at COK: its handled by AI staff and boarding passes all have AI colors!
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himmat01 · Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 1392 Location: DEL

The domestic section at COQ is just like any other airport in India. I found it very spartan.

Kingfisher had it's own staff at the check in counter. All other activities were handled by AI.
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Nimish · Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 3:49 pm Post subject:

From: http://www.newindpress.com/NewsItems.asp?ID=IET20070302010810&Topic=0&Title=Southern%20News%20-%20Tamil%20Nadu&Page=T

Extended runway at Tiruchy airport commissioned

Nimish · Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 3:51 pm Post subject:

From: http://www.financialexpress.com/fe_full_story.php?content_id=156595

LCCs clamour for low-cost ground handling facilities at BLR
Decry high rates at HAL airport, seek nod for self-handling

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About 200 explosive trace detectors (ETDs) will be installed in all 77 operational airports in the country to detect explosives and narcotic material, Rajya Sabha was informed on Tuesday, says a UNI report.
The Airports Authority of India (AAI) has already placed orders for 200 ETDs at an approximate cost of Rs 91 crore, the Civil Aviation Minister Praful Patel said during Question Hour, says the report.
As many as 405 incidents of thefts have been reported in the last three years at various airports in the country, Mr. Patel said and listed out steps being taken to prevent these incidents including installation of surveillance cameras and strengthening security systems.
A security agent of Air India’s Air Transport Services Ltd had failed to detect a revolver and 30 rounds of cartridges from a passenger who travelled from Mumbai to Dubai (Mr. Nusli Wadia Wink

) on January 13. Patel said the security agent has been suspended.
Fifteen pilots tested positive for alcohol during pre-flight medical checks by airlines in the past one year, he said, adding action was taken against the erring pilots by de-rostering them and imposing financial penalty. Seven Indian Airlines pilots were off-rostered, warned and penalties imposed on them for exceeding the Flight Time Duty Limitation (FDTL) in January, ends the report.
All the major airports will also have beautification programmes. This means plants and trees that are attractive and fragrant will be planted all over, says the report.

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shivendrashukla · Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 8:02 pm Post subject:

New Coochbehar is on the Bengal-Assam border. It's a damn beautiful place. Very Happy

. Few people know that Maharani Gyatri devi was from Cooch Behar. As for the loads all i can say when i used to travel to GHY by Rajdhani, almost 20% of the people used to get down there. So i guess DN is likely to have a profitable segment there. By the way from where are they going to serve Cooch Behar?? GHY, CCU or BAGHDOGRA??

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AKLDELNonstop · Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 1066 Location: Auckland

I have been there to Coochbehar, in North Bengal. Smallish but beautiful and peaceful place. Only odd thing was people only had rice and dal in massive qtys for breakfast, lunch and dinner.

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The Navy has approved the transfer of land for expansion of south Goa’s Dabolim civilian airport, Chief Minister Pratapsingh Rane has said, and quoted in a UNI report.
The Defence Ministry and Airport Authority of India have mutually agreed to exchange land under the Civil Aviation Ministry and construction work for the airport’s expansion will start soon, an official release said, says UNI.
The foundation stone will be laid by the United Progressive Alliance chairperson Sonia Gandhi, it said.

Simple · Member Joined: 02 Mar 2007 Posts: 21 Location: DOH