Airliners-India.com Flickr Group & Facebook    FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  BIA Spotter ID Badge Goto page 1, 2  Next          Airliners-India.com Forum Index -> Aviation Photography View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message Devesh Member Joined: 26 May 2008 Posts: 564 Location: Bangalore, India Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 11:57 am    Post subject: BIA Spotter ID Badge Hi Everyone Thanks to some efforts by Nimish and team (Photoyogi, Aiel, myself), we have received support from BIAL and they have agreed for issue of spotter ID badges for approved spotting at Bengaluru airport. First thanks to the airport authorities, second to the efforts of all four folks. Needless to say, BIAL is expecting us the Bangalore Spotters Group (BSG), to pre-screen spotters and recommend for issue of ID. Any breech of conduct will reflect poorly on this fledgling effort. So, we propose to use AI.NET as the starting point, it's a close knit "family" and we are all friends or friends of friends. To obtain the ID badge each spotter needs to submit : 1. Front 2 and Last 2 pages of his/her passport 1a. In absence of a passport, a police verification certificate from the police station covering your present address 2. Four passport size photographs with a white background. (Please write your name at the back with a pencil) 3. A request letter to BSG with your personal details (Name, present address, permanent address, phone numbers (landline and mobile), e-mail address) 4. Each ID will cost Rs. 100 and is payable by DD. So I propose to make one DD for all of us, and collect cash later. 5. Youngsters under 18, please also submit a permission letter from a parent Please send your application kits to me Devesh Agarwal Bangalore Spotters Group Infomart Tech Park 99, 5th Cross, 5th Block, Koramangala Bangalore 560 095 devesh at deveshagarwal dot com Cut off date for the first batch of applications is 22/May/09. Comments please ? Hopefully, once this effort takes off, it can be replicated at other airports around India. _________________ ---------------------- Devesh Bangalore Aviation Back to top VictorKilo Member Joined: 18 Feb 2007 Posts: 252 Location: USA Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 12:34 pm    Post subject: I will stateside but parents live in BLR hence BLR is home...Can i apply Back to top Karan69 Member Joined: 22 Dec 2006 Posts: 1334 Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 12:36 pm    Post subject: Devesh a job very well done hopefully other airports will rciprocate soon Karan Back to top xterra Member Joined: 10 Feb 2007 Posts: 595 Location: DONT KNO Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 2:04 pm    Post subject: appreciate your efforts .. can this be done for BOM airport? _________________ ~~~Indian Aviation Photographers~~~ Back to top Nimish Member Joined: 16 Dec 2006 Posts: 9757 Location: Bangalore, India Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 6:14 pm    Post subject: Re: BIA Spotter ID Badge Devesh wrote: Thanks to some efforts by Nimish and team (Photoyogi, Aiel, myself), we have received support from BIAL and they have agreed for issue of spotter ID badges for approved spotting at Bengaluru airport. First thanks to the airport authorities, second to the efforts of all four folks. Hi Devesh - this is brilliant news. Unfortunately I'm in GVA and not able to rush my kit over to you right away, but I'll do that on my return next weekend. Many many thanks to Devesh's tireless efforts, he's been single-handedly chasing the BIAL team to get approval for our harmless hobby. And I think we're blessed in a team at BIAL (starting from the CEO downwards) who look for solutions rather than causing more problems. I do hope that BIAL informs the security guards around about allowing photography with that ID card . Once this becomes operational in BLR (not that I doubt it in any way, but additional time might be needed for clearance of our ID cards etc.), then we should try and document this in a manner that can be replicated by other airports (at least the private and "less sensitive" ones like HYD). It would be awesome if this could further be done at BOM/DEL as well! However I would suggest that folks at other airports wait to see this truly operational at BLR and then approach their own airports. Mainly for the reason that I don't really want the DGCA or BCAS or another body waking up and blocking this before it takes off, and once operational with BIAL issued ID cards, it will be easy to present a full case study. _________________ We miss you Nalini! Back to top Nimish Member Joined: 16 Dec 2006 Posts: 9757 Location: Bangalore, India Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 6:21 pm    Post subject: VictorKilo wrote: I will stateside but parents live in BLR hence BLR is home...Can i apply So long as you have an Indian passport (preferably with a BLR address) I think it should be fine. _________________ We miss you Nalini! Back to top avbuff Member Joined: 22 Dec 2006 Posts: 5031 Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 8:34 pm    Post subject: excellent work Devesh, I'm happy to know things are in motion w.r.t spotting in BLR. Congratulations to all you guys! Back to top sumantra Member Joined: 28 Oct 2007 Posts: 4685 Location: New Delhi Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 8:25 am    Post subject: Excellent news... what about having BIAL put links to members' photos taken at BLR, on their website? I'm not aware of the legalities involved, but this will give a wider awareness to planespotting as a hobby. Cheers, Sumantra. Back to top vivekman Member Joined: 26 Dec 2006 Posts: 1897 Location: BOM Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 8:30 am    Post subject: Excellent work, Devesh! A few questions for you: 1) Can people living outside of Bangalore (e.g. Mumbai/Delhi, etc) apply? 2) What does a spotter ID card entitle one to do? (access to certain areas or just hassle free spotting - although the latter is more than enough ) 3) Can you give me the details of this whole program - how did you approach BIAL, what credentials did you submit, etc. We can try doing a similar thing for BOM, and cite the example of BLR. Regards, Vivek _________________ Boeing makes planes. Airbus makes videogames! Back to top Devesh Member Joined: 26 May 2008 Posts: 564 Location: Bangalore, India Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 11:28 am    Post subject: vivekman wrote: Excellent work, Devesh! vivekman wrote: A few questions for you: 1) Can people living outside of Bangalore (e.g. Mumbai/Delhi, etc) apply? 2) What does a spotter ID card entitle one to do? (access to certain areas or just hassle free spotting - although the latter is more than enough ) 3) Can you give me the details of this whole program - how did you approach BIAL, what credentials did you submit, etc. We can try doing a similar thing for BOM, and cite the example of BLR. I do not know about people out of Bangalore. I will find out and come back. The ID badge gives access only till the airside perimeter. Beyond that requires BCAS permission and I believe there is a procedure to apply for a one day airside pass which gives access to the apron. I know the senior management at BIAL, and I built on those relations. It helps that they were all very helpful and positive. Still took more than 3~4 months of constant work. As Nimish suggests, let us use Bangalore as a pilot and establish it for 6 months. That will give you a case study to approach MIAL, DIAL, RGIA etc. At RGIA I have a friend working and can refer you. VT-ALA should also be able to help. The legacy airports offer a challenge since there is no outer and inner perimeter as at BIA and RGIA. As I gather, Jari Mari is currently under Mumbai Police control not the airport. IMHO at MIAL, what you should push for is a viewing gallery. Show the airport authorities the monetary benefit. Without WIFM no airport would be interested, most certainly Sanjeev Reddy _________________ ---------------------- Devesh Bangalore Aviation Back to top sreenath_y Member Joined: 27 Apr 2008 Posts: 528 Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 11:39 am    Post subject: "NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE". True. LOL. Congrats on the great move Devesh. Its certainly a milestone for the community in India. Hope GVK-MIAL eyes this. Back to top HamiltonAir Member Joined: 25 Dec 2006 Posts: 937 Location: Bangalore Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 1:08 pm    Post subject: Job well done man, Congrats Devesh and a big thanx for Nimish and Nitin for their efforts. Devesh, I will give you my set of docs by this weekend, would that be fine? Please let me know the landmark to reach your place. Regards, _________________ HamiltonAir Back to top Devesh Member Joined: 26 May 2008 Posts: 564 Location: Bangalore, India Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 7:37 pm    Post subject: HamiltonAir wrote: Please let me know the landmark to reach your place. Just e-mail me and I can give you my cell. It is with Nitin and Nimish as well. www.infomartgroup.com. In the contact us section there is a map and the address. I am Koramangala. A courier is also fine. If you are in North Bangalore, Photoyogi lives on Serpentine Road right near the Windsor bridge. My address is in the very first post of this thread. _________________ ---------------------- Devesh Bangalore Aviation Back to top stealthpilot Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 2325 Location: BLR, DXB Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 11:09 pm    Post subject: Wow this is a fabulous concept; congratulations hope it works out as intended _________________ eP007 Back to top HamiltonAir Member Joined: 25 Dec 2006 Posts: 937 Location: Bangalore Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 1:18 am    Post subject: Devesh wrote: HamiltonAir wrote: Please let me know the landmark to reach your place. Just e-mail me and I can give you my cell. It is with Nitin and Nimish as well. www.infomartgroup.com. In the contact us section there is a map and the address. I am Koramangala. A courier is also fine. If you are in North Bangalore, Photoyogi lives on Serpentine Road right near the Windsor bridge. My address is in the very first post of this thread. I stay in Domlur, pretty close to koramangala, i'll get in touch with u soon. Regards, _________________ HamiltonAir Back to top sri_bom Member Joined: 22 Dec 2006 Posts: 2365 Location: Singapore Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 6:26 am    Post subject: Congrats Devesh a job truly briliant... Sri_Bom Back to top HAWK21M Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 8132 Location: Mumbai, INDIA Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 4:43 pm    Post subject: Nice to hear this devesh. This is def a 1st out here. Try to press for a viewers lounge in the long run. I'm hoping one day the Tarmac photography ban will finally be lifted regds MEL _________________ Think of the Brighter side !!! Back to top Devesh Member Joined: 26 May 2008 Posts: 564 Location: Bangalore, India Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 6:22 pm    Post subject: HAWK21M wrote: I'm hoping one day the Tarmac photography ban will finally be lifted That already is. You can officially write to BCAS and seek permission for tarmac photography. If you get the permission BIA will issue you an apron badge. _________________ ---------------------- Devesh Bangalore Aviation Back to top Devesh Member Joined: 26 May 2008 Posts: 564 Location: Bangalore, India Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 7:46 pm    Post subject: Just a reminder, the BIAL folks were rather surprised that no spotter applications had come in, considering the pressure I put on them to push this through. Come on folks, help out here. Also, just received word on the required documentation. 1. Machine printed passport (hand written ones before 2003 are not acceptable) 2. A proof of current address (in case it is different from the one on your passport). Bank statement, BSNL bill, water bill, ration card, PAN card, etc. 3. A police verification certificate of you at your current address (in case different from the address on your passport) 4. 4 passport sizes photos of you with a white background. Balance is the same. Basically the passport must be machine printed not handwritten. For foreign citizens (NRIs), a PIO card or OCI card copy or Visa copy and local Driver's License copy must accompany the passport. _________________ ---------------------- Devesh Bangalore Aviation Back to top flightgearpilot Member Joined: 21 Dec 2006 Posts: 711 Location: VOBL Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 7:53 pm    Post subject: Great news, and applaud efforts of Devesh and team! Unfortunately I'm presently not in India and will be back only next month. So maybe I can join during the next round of BSG inductions. Back to top Devesh Member Joined: 26 May 2008 Posts: 564 Location: Bangalore, India Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 10:53 pm    Post subject: Just received this e-mail from BIAL which is self explanatory about the ID cards. Quote: The BIAL Management has reviewed and considered your request to issue a badge / card as an identity so that the G4S guards are aware up to where all you may be allowed within the BIAL area as some areas are secured and not recommended except for people who need to be there. You may kindly submit the following document to enable us to process the identification badges/cards • Request for issuance of Badges on a Organization/Club/Association letter head. • 4 Passport Size photographs of each individual. • Photo Copy of passport duly attested by a Class I gazetted officer or police Verification from Local Police Station. • A profile with details of each individual with 02 references. • Cost of Printing and Stationary for each card @ Rs.75/- per person( adhoc to be confirmed) The processing time will be 10-12 days , Request whenever you intend to visit the airport before the badges are issued you may please call on 66782421 or 66782427 and inform your desired location and time so that the G4S Guards can be briefed accordingly. Kindly prepare the papers accordingly. _________________ ---------------------- Devesh Bangalore Aviation Back to top HAWK21M Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 8132 Location: Mumbai, INDIA Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 11:08 pm    Post subject: Devesh wrote: HAWK21M wrote: I'm hoping one day the Tarmac photography ban will finally be lifted That already is. You can officially write to BCAS and seek permission for tarmac photography. If you get the permission BIA will issue you an apron badge. Not permitted.With permission there is a charge which is quite high at BOM per photo. regds MEL _________________ Think of the Brighter side !!! Back to top ipilot777 Member Joined: 19 May 2009 Posts: 29 Location: BLR Posted: Wed May 20, 2009 10:22 am    Post subject: I can send the documents right away but getting a sign from a gazetted officer might take a day or two since I have to find them! Will try and get it done at the earliest! _________________ Only a Runway Can Take Me To a Place Where I Belong!!! Back to top D-ABTH Member Joined: 22 Dec 2006 Posts: 837 Location: VABB :: BOM Posted: Wed May 20, 2009 11:36 am    Post subject: nice effort _________________ If it aint Boeing.. I aint going. Back to top Aseem Member Joined: 15 Dec 2006 Posts: 2841 Location: YYZ Posted: Wed May 20, 2009 5:06 pm    Post subject: excellent work Devesh....wish it only goes forward! Back to top HamiltonAir Member Joined: 25 Dec 2006 Posts: 937 Location: Bangalore Posted: Wed May 20, 2009 6:07 pm    Post subject: Devesh, I just have one clarification, how to go about with the request letters? The BIAL management mentions this: "Request for issuance of Badges on a Organization/Club/Association letter head" I have the other documents ready, just confused with the request letter. Regards, _________________ HamiltonAir Back to top rutvij Member Joined: 22 Feb 2007 Posts: 1390 Location: Skies of Fire! Posted: Wed May 20, 2009 6:18 pm    Post subject: Firstly, Congrats Devesh and other folks who got this thing done. Questions for the BIAL Spotters: -- Is BIAL the only Admin agency involved in there? (We listed out some 11 of them, here at BOM! ) -- Under what Organization/Club/Association will you all be applying under? Back to top Nimish Member Joined: 16 Dec 2006 Posts: 9757 Location: Bangalore, India Posted: Thu May 21, 2009 1:58 am    Post subject: HamiltonAir wrote: Devesh, I just have one clarification, how to go about with the request letters? The BIAL management mentions this: "Request for issuance of Badges on a Organization/Club/Association letter head" I have the other documents ready, just confused with the request letter. Regards, Hi Louis, Just send it in on plain paper for now. Devesh can put together a dummy letter head for the "Bangalore spotters club", and he can put in a forwarding note for all the applications together... Nimish _________________ We miss you Nalini! Back to top Nimish Member Joined: 16 Dec 2006 Posts: 9757 Location: Bangalore, India Posted: Thu May 21, 2009 1:59 am    Post subject: rutvij wrote: -- Is BIAL the only Admin agency involved in there? (We listed out some 11 of them, here at BOM! ) -- Under what Organization/Club/Association will you all be applying under? 1) Well - hopefully BIAL will coordinate with all the "other" agencies involved. 2) A organization called "Bangalore spotters club" or something similar. _________________ We miss you Nalini! Back to top HamiltonAir Member Joined: 25 Dec 2006 Posts: 937 Location: Bangalore Posted: Thu May 21, 2009 12:08 pm    Post subject: Nimish wrote: HamiltonAir wrote: Devesh, I just have one clarification, how to go about with the request letters? The BIAL management mentions this: "Request for issuance of Badges on a Organization/Club/Association letter head" I have the other documents ready, just confused with the request letter. Regards, Hi Louis, Just send it in on plain paper for now. Devesh can put together a dummy letter head for the "Bangalore spotters club", and he can put in a forwarding note for all the applications together... Nimish Thanx Nimish! Will do that rightaway. _________________ HamiltonAir Back to top Aiel Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 927 Location: Bangalore Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 7:43 pm    Post subject: Just a clarification on the documents required: 1. Notarized copy of the first two and last two pages of a machine printed passport (if the passport has your current address, then no need for (2)) 2. Notarized copy of a document having your current address (e.g. phone bill) 3. Personal details (name, current address, permanent address, date of birth, contact details etc) on a sheet of paper 4. 4 passport sized photos (at least one on a white background) 5. 100 Rs. Please note that the notarization need NOT be done by a Grade 1 officer. _________________ My Flickr photos My JP.net account Back to top ipilot777 Member Joined: 19 May 2009 Posts: 29 Location: BLR Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 10:57 pm    Post subject: I've sent in all the documents by courier to Devesh. Please let me know when and how do I pay Rs.100? _________________ Only a Runway Can Take Me To a Place Where I Belong!!! Back to top Nilanjon Member Joined: 22 Dec 2006 Posts: 85 Location: Bangalore Posted: Mon May 25, 2009 2:56 pm    Post subject: Hi Devesh, I sent in my documents last week - my passport is just a photocopy of the 1st 2 and last 2 machine-printed pages. Not attestation is done. Is it Ok ? Regards, Nilanjon Back to top HamiltonAir Member Joined: 25 Dec 2006 Posts: 937 Location: Bangalore Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 1:00 pm    Post subject: Hi Nilanjon, I think attestation is required. In the previous post, nitin pointed out that a Grade 1 attestation is not required, but I guess you need to attest your passport copies by a gazetted officer. Regards, _________________ HamiltonAir Back to top Devesh Member Joined: 26 May 2008 Posts: 564 Location: Bangalore, India Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 4:47 pm    Post subject: The first set of ID badges have come in and have been despatched to 8 members. Nilanjon, the details of requirements including attestation are in the form, and let us please keep BSG internal matters on the e-group. No point in using a public forum like AI.net for internal questions. Regards _________________ ---------------------- Devesh Bangalore Aviation Back to top SEANDSILVA Member Joined: 09 Jul 2007 Posts: 751 Location: BOM (VABB) Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 9:32 am    Post subject: Congratulations , Devesh! You've finally done it! I wonder if this could be replicated at BOM?! Back to top Nimish Member Joined: 16 Dec 2006 Posts: 9757 Location: Bangalore, India Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 10:35 am    Post subject: Confirm having received my badge - thanks Devesh! Would be interesting to see how it helps us in better spotting - hopefully we can use this to convince security guards who come around asking us questions... _________________ We miss you Nalini! Back to top xterra Member Joined: 10 Feb 2007 Posts: 595 Location: DONT KNO Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 10:37 am    Post subject: can anyone post a pic of how the badge looks.. and can the members who played a major role in getting such badge for BLR.. help us out in BOM? by any chance? _________________ ~~~Indian Aviation Photographers~~~ Back to top yash777 Member Joined: 12 Jun 2007 Posts: 901 Location: Chicago, IL Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 9:15 pm    Post subject: BLR spotters are the luckiest in the world. 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