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PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 4:58 pm    Post subject: India Threads on Anet. Reply with quote

Noticed Everytime there is an India Thread in Civil Aviation Or Non Avi.
There would be 3-4 Anti Indians out there that seem to qoute Media articles & have a totally weird pic of our Country.
& they all seem to be from one particular neighbouring countrymen.Smile

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doesn't surprise me.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 9:59 pm    Post subject: Re: India Threads on Anet. Reply with quote

HAWK21M wrote:
Noticed Everytime there is an India Thread in Civil Aviation Or Non Avi.
There would be 3-4 Anti Indians out there that seem to qoute Media articles & have a totally weird pic of our Country.
& they all seem to be from one particular neighbouring countrymen.Smile

That is called offensive defense. Now I don't bother that much, but earlier I used to bang each and every sentense of theirs'.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah noticed that "Offensive Defence" too.They are convinced by Stories which are so far from the truth.Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Esp that dude Emirates773ER. He is an idiot goes on about how the neighbours are tolerant..blah blah blah

Well its fun to counter argue and piss them off alhtough we dun really need to bother with it

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As long as we have people like Narendra Modi, our neighbours and the world will have a reason to point fingers at us.

The biggest tragedy is that people like him are elected. Sad
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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As long as we have people like Narendra Modi, our neighbours and the world will have a reason to point fingers at us.

The biggest tragedy is that people like him are elected. Sad

And what's wrong with Narendra Modi or the people who elected him? As far as the people who elected him, they are quite satisfied with him and his administration. Very Happy Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 3:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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And what's wrong with Narendra Modi or the people who elected him? As far as the people who elected him, they are quite satisfied with him and his administration. Very Happy Rolling Eyes


What do you say about these reports on BBC?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/1958555.stm
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 12:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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And what's wrong with Narendra Modi or the people who elected him? As far as the people who elected him, they are quite satisfied with him and his administration. Very Happy Rolling Eyes

Narendra Modi I believe had a hand in the 2002 Gujarat violence (obviously a hidden one). I am not entirely sure to what extent, but I know he initially did nothing to stop it.

From Wikipedia “Subsequent reports from several human rights organisations and political opponents have claimed that Modi and his ministers instructed Gujarat's police officers not to obstruct the attacking mobs”

He’s a right-wing moron, and sadly he’s completely at home among other politicians.
By the way, for what it’s worth American denied him a visa after the godhra riots under a law that makes "any government official who was responsible for or directly carried out at any time, particularly severe violations of religious freedom, ineligible for a visa".
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess in a country our size there are bound to be a few wrong things but a small percentage unlike our Neighbour.But the Folks don't want to see the Positives Smile

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 8:39 pm    Post subject: Re: India Threads on Anet. Reply with quote

HAWK21M wrote:
Noticed Everytime there is an India Thread in Civil Aviation Or Non Avi.
There would be 3-4 Anti Indians out there that seem to qoute Media articles & have a totally weird pic of our Country.
& they all seem to be from one particular neighbouring countrymen.Smile

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Can some one proved me the link. I missed this bit sorry....

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 9:54 pm    Post subject: Re: India Threads on Anet. Reply with quote

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HAWK21M wrote:
Noticed Everytime there is an India Thread in Civil Aviation Or Non Avi.
There would be 3-4 Anti Indians out there that seem to qoute Media articles & have a totally weird pic of our Country.
& they all seem to be from one particular neighbouring countrymen.Smile

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Can some one proved me the link. I missed this bit sorry....

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Shivendra


http://www.airliners.net/discussions/non_aviation/read.main/1539190/

http://www.airliners.net/discussions/non_aviation/read.main/1530802/

http://www.airliners.net/discussions/non_aviation/read.main/1535069/

http://www.airliners.net/discussions/non_aviation/read.main/1535063/


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To MEL:

What do you think is the impact of Godra and babri on the image of India?


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What do you think is the impact of Godra and barbri on the image of India?


Def Hurt People out here too,But one must understand that in a Country the size of India there are bound to be a few disturbances.But look at the respose of Majority of the Countries Citizens.They condemmed Non secular deeds.Thats the strength of Democracy.

India respects all Religons equally.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 11:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What do you think is the impact of Godra and barbri on the image of India?



India respects all Religons equally.

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No doubt about it India as a whole. But, does the Gujurat Govt. treat everyone equally?
I am not going to say that both communities are totally innocent and one is a victim. They have done enough deeds to piss each other off even before the incidents. But as a govt., shouldn't it be unbiased?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 11:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Mel. I must say BarfBag does indeed posts quite well and infact i did enjoy reading his posts.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 5:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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aarbee wrote:


And what's wrong with Narendra Modi or the people who elected him? As far as the people who elected him, they are quite satisfied with him and his administration. Very Happy Rolling Eyes


What do you say about these reports on BBC?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/1958555.stm

This article seems to have gone lengthy modifications.

With the exception of couple of things below, I think BCC did finally come up with a journalistic profile (even) rather then an opinion (slanted).:
o Few politicians have done so much to polarise Indian public opinion in recent years as Gujarat's Chief Minister Narendra Modi.
There would be quite a long list of this, esp. for Indian politicians.

o Mr Modi reportedly married a woman working as a teacher in a poor Muslim area about 100 kilometres (60 miles) from Gujarat's commercial capital, Ahmedabad.

If this is a dig on his marital life, fine. But what does "poor muslim area" got to do with it?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 5:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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aarbee wrote:
And what's wrong with Narendra Modi or the people who elected him? As far as the people who elected him, they are quite satisfied with him and his administration. Very Happy Rolling Eyes

Narendra Modi I believe had a hand in the 2002 Gujarat violence (obviously a hidden one). I am not entirely sure to what extent, but I know he initially did nothing to stop it.

Let's face it, this is not the fist time the riots happened in Gujarat or the first time the riots happened in India.

(Clarification: I'm not defending the riots) Even if had a hand he is not the first politician in Gujarat as well as Indian history to be involved.

On part of the government's effort to control the riots, He deployed army in 72 hours, made preventive arrests of over 33,000 people, fired over 12000 rounds of bullets, fired over 15,000 rounds of tear gas shells. The deployment of army was much faster then the army deployment after 1984 riots. Maybe that was not enough for some critics.
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From Wikipedia “Subsequent reports from several human rights organisations and political opponents have claimed that Modi and his ministers instructed Gujarat's police officers not to obstruct the attacking mobs”

He’s a right-wing moron, and sadly he’s completely at home among other politicians.

I would not even look at the Wikipedia page of Narendra Modi as well as the 2002 Gujarat riots. There is so much of edit wars going on, it is difficult to grasp it.

He's right wing, right, whose image has been totally tarnished by the left wing english media.
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By the way, for what it’s worth American denied him a visa after the godhra riots under a law that makes "any government official who was responsible for or directly carried out at any time, particularly severe violations of religious freedom, ineligible for a visa".

It is a well known fact that there was intense lobbying for this case as well as the hand of Congress led govt. in it and in the end the US dept. quote India's Human Rights commission, who have not even indicted him. Does that make it right? Not getting American visa does not make him guilty. Also keep in mind that all political figures coming to America are not measured by the same yardstick.

Again I am not trying to defend the riots. But nowhere is the instigator of the riots (Godhra train burning) is brought into picture. Even Rajiv Gandhi in 1984 spoke something in the lines of "When a big tree falls, the earth shakes. (Was that justification valid, NO same with Godhra, but the ground realities are different. Public opinion at times is difficult to control)

My whole point here is that it has become a fashion to blame Narendra Modi for all the ills and bad image of India. As if before he came into the picture India had no ills and no bad image. Past polticians have been no good in terms of image, etc.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 6:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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No doubt about it India as a whole. But, does the Gujurat Govt. treat everyone equally?
I am not going to say that both communities are totally innocent and one is a victim. They have done enough deeds to piss each other off even before the incidents. But as a govt., shouldn't it be unbiased?

Oh! where does Gujarat govt. not treat equally? As far as CM himself goes, he repeatedly mentions he is not doing anything special for Muslims or for Hindus, whatever he is doing is for X million Gujaratis.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 1:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

shivendrashukla wrote:
Thanks Mel. I must say BarfBag does indeed posts quite well and infact i did enjoy reading his posts.
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True.Very Well written Posts by BarfBag.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

aarbee wrote:
C-GHKR wrote:

No doubt about it India as a whole. But, does the Gujurat Govt. treat everyone equally?
I am not going to say that both communities are totally innocent and one is a victim. They have done enough deeds to piss each other off even before the incidents. But as a govt., shouldn't it be unbiased?

Oh! where does Gujarat govt. not treat equally? As far as CM himself goes, he repeatedly mentions he is not doing anything special for Muslims or for Hindus, whatever he is doing is for X million Gujaratis.


I just hope whatever you are saying is true, as an outsider it is difficult to have proper perspective.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you read the thread from the begining to the end, you'll realise the irony of how it has progressed. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If you read the thread from the beginning to the end, you'll realise the irony of how it has progressed. Rolling Eyes
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It would have been more ironic if we had some members of the "other " community on board.

It would interesting to know their point of views also cos here we have only one side of the team.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 10:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

True.
I've Interacted with a few on other Forum.They are very much like us but some can be very Anti India & India Centric.Found that very Amusing.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The general feeling i get is the people from our neighbouring country can goto any extreme to put down our country. And it's not that they are able to glorify their's. But the whole thing is that they get some sardistic pleasure is telling the world about how we ill-treat muslims in India.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've noticed that their logic of History is toally different from the Worlds point of view & they believe that India is some Evil country that illtreats minorities.Which is very amusing.
Guess their Govt has succeeding in Brainwashing their citizens thru wrong books.

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