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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 5:49 pm    Post subject: 126 Fighters for IAF...(contd thread) Reply with quote

India to start bidding process of acquiring 126 fighter jets soon, defense minister says

India will soon invite bids from combat aircraft makers for the 126 fighter jets the country's air force plans to buy, Defense Minister A.K. Anthony said Wednesday.

The deal is estimated to be worth between US$6.5 billion and US$10 billion (€5.4 billion and €8.3 billion).

"It is in the final stages," said Anthony, without giving a specific timeframe, speaking to reporters at an air show in the southern technology hub of Bangalore.

India also is considering buying nearly 200 army reconnaissance and observation helicopters, Anthony said.

Aviation companies from around the world have flocked to the air show, hoping for a piece of the billions of dollars in defense contracts the South Asian country plans to spend in modernizing its military.



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Current info as heard by me are that final purchase will be of about 200 aircrafts. 80 will be MiG 35 and rest un named.

Sorry but no sources. Just heard from some one
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry but are the MiG-35s already flying with some air force?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No they arn't. These are specifically developed for India. An upgraded version of Mig 29
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 11:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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No they arn't. These are specifically developed for India. An upgraded version of Mig 29

Oh! And i guess these are supposed to have VSTOL right? (Vertical Short Take Off and Landing)
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 2:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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No they arn't. These are specifically developed for India. An upgraded version of Mig 29

Oh! And i guess these are supposed to have VSTOL right? (Vertical Short Take Off and Landing)


The Mig-35 is the upgraded version of the Mig-29 otherwise also known as the Mig-29OVT (with the thrust vectors I suppose). Hmm were they specifically developed for india? and I dont think they are VSTOL aircrafts.
Anybody has more information on this?

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 12:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh sorry i guess i confused myself with F-35 Razz
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 2:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The IAF should Balance the orders.Greater percentage of Mig35s & a few F16 & F18.Keeping all Interested & no sanction stopping spares risk.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The IAF should Balance the orders.Greater percentage of Mig35s & a few F16 & F18.Keeping all Interested & no sanction stopping spares risk.

But that would increase the expenses.... a difficult thing for a country like india
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The IAF should Balance the orders.Greater percentage of Mig35s & a few F16 & F18.Keeping all Interested & no sanction stopping spares risk.
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Exactly! They should split the orders as you have mentioned, but I am afraid our people will go with the russian birds, OTOH, I would love to see some F-18s and F-16s in our airforce Very Happy

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes the MiG 35 has been specifically designed for India. I am not very sure that we will get to see an American Fighter in IAF's stables soon. Top IAF brass still prefers EADS Typhoon and Saab's grippen higher than F-18's. F-16 are a strict NO-NO. Why have they even bothered to enter the bid is beyond me. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 1:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yes the MiG 35 has been specifically designed for India. I am not very sure that we will get to see an American Fighter in IAF's stables soon. Top IAF brass still prefers EADS Typhoon and Saab's grippen higher than F-18's. F-16 are a strict NO-NO. Why have they even bothered to enter the bid is beyond me. Rolling Eyes


I never knew that the Mig-35 was specifically designed for India and I am not sure if the IAF brass prefers the eurofighter and gripens over the F-16 or F-18s. However, do you have any supporting article related to what you have said?

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Mig35 is a good Aircraft.I guess the Advantage the Russians have is No Sanctions assured.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I never knew that the Mig-35 was specifically designed for India and I am not sure if the IAF brass prefers the eurofighter and gripens over the F-16 or F-18s. However, do you have any supporting article related to what you have said?


Sorry no sources. My parents are in IAF. High post. Well not that high also!!! Smile . Had a discussion with one of their colleagues. He told me. It's not in the media as yet. Sorry can't substantiate my claim.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can remember once some Eurofighter official claiming that IAF was interested for their Typhoon aircrafts
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wonder why the Eurofighter didnt visit AeroIndia 2007, would have been a great sight to watch the typhoon demonstration.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reason could be the Chances of being part of the IAF were slim.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bangalore air show: Indian combat aircraft order could be split between the MiG-35 and Western types
India could divide its order for 126 multirole combat aircraft (MRCA) into two, with Russia's MiG-35 a front-runner for the first batch of fighters if the plan goes ahead. But by splitting up the contract, India could have the first aircraft by 2012 if it awards the first order to a manufacturer that can meet an earlier deadline.
As Russia has indicated that the MiG-35 could be supplied within a shorter timeframe, it would be the likely front-runner for the first batch of aircraft.
The winner of the second contract would supply aircraft up until the 2020s. The Boeing F/A-18, Lockheed Martin F-16, Dassault Rafale, Eurofighter Typhoon, and Saab Gripen are also in the fray, but sources say the US companies have an edge over the Europeans.
The air force could also increase the order to around 200 aircraft if there are further delays to the indigenous Tejas Light Combat Aircraft (LCA), say sources.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any reason for Ratan TATA not flying in the Mig 35.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Any reason for Ratan TATA not flying in the Mig 35.

Maybe he didn't feel to safe with it Wink Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What was Ratan Tatas Idea to fly these Aircraft.Was it just a desire or something more.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What was Ratan Tatas Idea to fly these Aircraft.Was it just a desire or something more.

Boeing must have offered them as a part of their marketing campaign
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Any reason for Ratan TATA not flying in the Mig 35.


Coz it's a single seater plane.. Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Boeing must have offered them as a part of their marketing campaign


It certainly worked. The newspapers were certainly full of news regarding the flight.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Any reason for Ratan TATA not flying in the Mig 35.


Coz it's a single seater plane.. Smile

Thats the Right Answer Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think there were 2 Mig-35s at the airshow and one of them was a 2 seater.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Was there a Mig35 trainer also present.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 10:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I think there were 2 Mig-35s at the airshow and one of them was a 2 seater.

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I think you may be confusing it with Su-30 which is infact a 2 seater plane.
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Well I surely know the difference between a SU-30 and a MIG-35, I have a pic withme, I cannot post it here, coz its not mine and moreover, I dont know the procedure to post a pic here.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 1:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Well I surely know the difference between a SU-30 and a MIG-35, I have a pic withme, I cannot post it here, coz its not mine and moreover, I dont know the procedure to post a pic here.

So long as you quote the source and provide link it is fine. How many of us have photos of our own Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Well I surely know the difference between a SU-30 and a MIG-35, I have a pic withme, I cannot post it here, coz its not mine and moreover, I dont know the procedure to post a pic here.

So long as you quote the source and provide link it is fine. How many of us have photos of our own Rolling Eyes
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I have a pic saved inmy comp, but as I said, I dont know how to post a pic here, if somebody can help me with it, I'llbe glad to share it with u all.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I have a pic saved inmy comp, but as I said, I dont know how to post a pic here, if somebody can help me with it, I'llbe glad to share it with u all.
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Upload the picture to first http://www.flickr.com then once uploaded select the Tab indicating 'All Sizes' now scroll to the bottom of the page and you'll see a URL ending in ".jpg" select that link, paste ithere in the format
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Well I surely know the difference between a SU-30 and a MIG-35.


Well I am not saying you are wrong. Just what i thought. You have a picture. So I am wrong in this case. No offence please anyone.

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Guys, i'll just post the link here, maybe somebody can post the pic here later, here u go:

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p125/HamiltonAir/MIG-35-Twoseater.jpg


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There you go Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So why no ride for TATA on this Aircraft [Mig35]. Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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So why no ride for TATA on this Aircraft [Mig35]. Smile
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He wa probably too scared to fly another Russian Jet Wink Laughing
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