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sreenath_y
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 Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 10:04 pm Post subject: When does the flight time start? |
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Suppose a BOM-DEL is shown as 2hrs flight time, when does that start? When the pushback starts? Or when you enter the active or when you are airborne?
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airindia787
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| Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 12:39 am Post subject: |
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Its when the plane pushes back. The flight ends when the plane arrives at the gate.
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texdravid
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| Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 6:41 am Post subject: |
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The real answer is, ridiculously enough, whatever the airline making the timetables says it is.
A flight that should take only 1 hour is blocked off for 1.5 or 1.75 hours so that these silly airlines have to be one hour late to be even 15 minutes late.
Again, silly corporate airline sleight of hand bullshit. If airline timetables were truly based on real flight time, >95% of flights would be horribly late.
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HAWK21M
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Since We do not use ACARS.
We calculate two Times in our logs:-
Flight time:- Airbourne to touchdown.reffered to as time in air
Ground time:- Chocks off to Chocks on.reffered to as total time.
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| Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 1:46 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks a lot mates! Thanks for clearing the doubt...!!  |
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Punjabi Boy
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| Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 5:37 pm Post subject: |
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| brakes released to brakes set |
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At US Airways, we used ACARS.
The ACARS kicks in when the nose wheel completes one full revolution after breaks are released & the aircraft is pushed back. ACARS times are updated automatically, unless when it is out, the pilot radios in his times (pushback / liftoff) after takeoff, to the departing station.
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operations flight time is doors close to doors open....and engg flight time is from when the aircraft moves on its own power to till it comes to a complete halt....
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In most of the airlines in India
Block time : Chocks off to chocks on. In other words, from the time brakes are released to the time they are set after taxi in.
Flight Time : From lift-off to touchdown.
PS: The flight timings displayed in airlines schedules are the Block Times. |
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sreenath_y
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| Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 11:58 am Post subject: |
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| Thang you iflytb20!! It was always a mystery whether airlines mention as Block Time or Flying time. |
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| 747-237 wrote: | At US Airways, we used ACARS.
The ACARS kicks in when the nose wheel completes one full revolution after breaks are released & the aircraft is pushed back. ACARS times are updated automatically, unless when it is out, the pilot radios in his times (pushback / liftoff) after takeoff, to the departing station.
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I wouldn't know whats the latest score with BA, back in the late 90's they used ACARS on their B777 for despatch reliability. In DXB we had delays due IRAN ATC, the IRANIANs would be looking for DRONEs flying under civilian aircrafts, BA got around this delay by asking the TUG to push back 1 full rev and back on stand for the 30min delay.
LHR in the mean time recorded ON SHED!!! |
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Punjabi Boy
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| tayaramecanici wrote: | | 747-237 wrote: | At US Airways, we used ACARS.
The ACARS kicks in when the nose wheel completes one full revolution after breaks are released & the aircraft is pushed back. ACARS times are updated automatically, unless when it is out, the pilot radios in his times (pushback / liftoff) after takeoff, to the departing station.
Hope this helps. |
I wouldn't know whats the latest score with BA, back in the late 90's they used ACARS on their B777 for despatch reliability. In DXB we had delays due IRAN ATC, the IRANIANs would be looking for DRONEs flying under civilian aircrafts, BA got around this delay by asking the TUG to push back 1 full rev and back on stand for the 30min delay.
LHR in the mean time recorded ON SHED!!! |
One of the oldest tricks in the book.. Everyairline plays that one at LHR |
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I go by the Hobbs meter 
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