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Punjabi Boy · Member Joined: 31 Jan 2008 Posts: 219 Location: LONDON LHR

Hi there all. I am new to this website and would like some of you to give me a little help. I am a NRI living and working in UK LHR LONDON. I am employed by American Airlines as a Aircraft Maintenance Engineer Supervisor certifying on B777-200/300s and Boeing 767-300s as well as Airbus A330s. I wish to sit the DGCA AME exam in catergories Heavy Airplanes and JEt Engines. I have applied to the DGCA for a Computer number enabling me to sit the exams (for which I have all the reading notes etc). I submitted all the necessary documentation however I have not heard back from them. All emails to them are ignored and not replied to. I have tried calling them and they just either not answwer the phone or just hang up. Last week on a visit to DELHI i tried in vain to arrange to meet them but this was like trying to arrange to meet President Bush.I got nowhere..........so....I was wondering if anyone here knows the next couse of action for me??.
Please help!!
Many thanks in advance for your help!!

HAWK21M · Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 9:56 pm Post subject:

http://dgca.nic.in/rules/car-ind.htm

Section 2,Series L is your answer.

Does your airline operate to DEL.If so ask your company person to drop off a letter from you to DAW office & collect an Ack on a copy for your records.

You might need a few trips to be taken by that person.Ideal if the person handing over the docs takes a contact no of a staff present there for quicker response.

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MEL
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Punjabi Boy · Member Joined: 31 Jan 2008 Posts: 219 Location: LONDON LHR

Hawk read your private mails

HAWK21M · Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 3:23 pm Post subject:

Did not get any PMs yet.
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Punjabi Boy · Member Joined: 31 Jan 2008 Posts: 219 Location: LONDON LHR

Well tried calling them again today at the DGCA Delhi and those guys must be every so busy - they do not even answer the phone!...And when they do they say they are busy and just hang up....I have not in my life come across a rudest bunch of so called "professionals"....Maybe it is why some countried will not take them seriously when they behave like this......How can someone find someone in there to help when they do not want to talk...I have tried visiting too and they told me to come back in the "summer".......what is meant by this peculiar strange behaviour?.....

I am at loss at to what the next stage is.
My application was sent Signature Delivery.
Any Ideas please?

HAWK21M · Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 8:11 pm Post subject:

Do you have your Airline rep at any metros in India especially DEL.
Can you get your QCM to dash off an official letter to them on the query.
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Punjabi Boy · Member Joined: 31 Jan 2008 Posts: 219 Location: LONDON LHR

My Airline Rep was almost left in tears after she was verbally abused on her sexual preferences by these so called "proffessionals" at the DGCA...they seem like a shameless bunch of guys who do not know how to behave in front of females.
A letter was sent by my Quality Manager from LHR which again has been ignored and so too have the 5-6 emails to them from him....
We are at our wits end on how to deal with these people.

These are the same people took alot of money from us at DEL

HAWK21M · Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 10:53 pm Post subject:

Im surprised that this has occured.

Would you consider contacting the DGCA himself at DEL.
Or
The Higher ranked officers of grade DAW/CAW would be of a lot more character.

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Punjabi Boy · Member Joined: 31 Jan 2008 Posts: 219 Location: LONDON LHR

Who are the other guys and how do we contact them?...
And no it does not surprise me this behaviour not after what happened to an American pilot in Delhi 2006

HAWK21M · Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 1:06 pm Post subject:

Punjabi Boy · Member Joined: 31 Jan 2008 Posts: 219 Location: LONDON LHR

Have tried dealing with the top officials as well as the junior members....the ofiicials at airlines are not interested after all it does not concern them whether i get a Computer Number....

I was talking about the American Captain whose wife ended up in Delhi Prison in 2006.....and the way she was treated by "top Officials"

HAWK21M · Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 4:07 pm Post subject:

Punjabi Boy · Member Joined: 31 Jan 2008 Posts: 219 Location: LONDON LHR

For reasons that should be obvious I certainly do not want to be naming any names on this topic. This is not what the topic is about. After all this site is public and we do not know just who is looking at it. I do not want to ruin what little chance i may have in getting help to accomplish what i aim to do....

HAWK21M · Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 12:42 pm Post subject:

Sure I understand your hesitation to name on a public forum.
Im sure your airline has taken this up officially with the regulatory body & ministry by now regarding the attitude of the higher ups you say did not cooperate.

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Punjabi Boy · Member Joined: 31 Jan 2008 Posts: 219 Location: LONDON LHR

well this is just the problem....all letters/correspondance have so far been ignored........we have written to the Director of Airworthiness and again ni reply.....

HAWK21M · Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 8:15 pm Post subject:

Have you tried registered AD.
Possible you have the wrong address.

Are they not responding officially to your QCM letters,What about licence renewals & official correspondence.How do you continue to function as approved organisation.

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MEL
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Punjabi Boy · Member Joined: 31 Jan 2008 Posts: 219 Location: LONDON LHR

we have senr registered signed for letters.....we have sent emails.....we have tried calling.......we have tried visiting them.....we have had nothing back....we currently do not operate under DGCA system but operate under FAA licensing

HAWK21M · Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 1:46 pm Post subject:

So what do you do in case your aircraft has an incident in India.how are you getting the needed clearences from the regulatory authority.
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Punjabi Boy · Member Joined: 31 Jan 2008 Posts: 219 Location: LONDON LHR

what do you mean incident?....last year we had an Engine change at DEL due to compressor failure.......DGCA did not play any part in this and why should they ...it has nothing to do with them..we Dealt with BCAS for passes and even that was a joke!....We had to wait 2 weeks before we could access our own Aircraft!.......the whole thing lasted almost 4 weeks just because they would not give us passes for the Engine change team.......This was exactly the same reason BMI pulled out of Bombay after thier A330 had a landing gear truck problem.they too had to wait 2 weeks to access their aeroplane and they said they did not have time for Bombay and BCAS

HAWK21M · Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 6:24 pm Post subject:

The_Goat

Punjabi Boy · Member Joined: 31 Jan 2008 Posts: 219 Location: LONDON LHR

msg to the GOAT:
this is not meanty to be a name calling forum please please refrain from doing so.no matter what you think of these people.....
and no i am not looking for a job with 9W....please do not add 2 and 2 and end up with 5

Punjabi Boy · Member Joined: 31 Jan 2008 Posts: 219 Location: LONDON LHR

HAwk: no we did not advise the DGCA of any "incident".....after all it was not an incident in aviaition terms....it was an ENGINE CHANGE

HAWK21M · Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 1:27 pm Post subject:

Punjabi Boy · Member Joined: 31 Jan 2008 Posts: 219 Location: LONDON LHR

Oh yes of course the country's governing body would have to be informed.but to be honest with you FAA would be controlling whole incident.....The Feds will not allow anyone near an investigation on a N Reg aircraft.

Now anyone can help on the DGCA Computer Number application?.....any other ideas on how they will perhaps communicate........
Someone has sent me an idea of what perhaps I am doing wrong...involving a brown envelope.....but I hate to think this could be the way forward

HAWK21M · Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 12:08 am Post subject:

To me the only solution would be to get someone to meet the DGCA officials personally & enquire on the same.If they are not cooperative then the Sr Airworthiness officers or CAW/DAW are options.

This is the 1st time Ive heard of such unresponsiveness,so Im really surprised as to why.

No other solutions from my side.

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MEL
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Punjabi Boy · Member Joined: 31 Jan 2008 Posts: 219 Location: LONDON LHR

I am due to visit DEL on a personal visit and will do my best to get to try to visit someone there. But anyone have an idea of a name to see there or to call who could maybe help on this situation?...

Punjabi Boy · Member Joined: 31 Jan 2008 Posts: 219 Location: LONDON LHR

Has anyone here ever emailed the DGCA before?....I just wanted to know if they have ever had a reply...?....If someone has a name to which I could email I would be very much grateful........This has been going on too long and I really do not know who to turn to.I would hate to turn up to DEL and not know how to even reach these guys......
If I could just arrange some to meet/talk to there it would be of great help........

HAWK21M · Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 12:31 pm Post subject:

I've never had a problem with communication ever.Even if it was with DEL,as I mostly deal with BOM.
Found the officers here at BOM to be very professional & acknowledgement of a letter & action is very normal.

Hence I was surprised.

Try meeting the person of the airworthiness wing in Del who handles Examinations.

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Punjabi Boy · Member Joined: 31 Jan 2008 Posts: 219 Location: LONDON LHR

here is email from dgca website of DAW...even he does not reply....no common courtesy to even reply......
:
dawdel@hub.nic.in

Sad

Punjabi Boy · Member Joined: 31 Jan 2008 Posts: 219 Location: LONDON LHR

called them again today from 0900 am to 1200 local time UK and they are not answering.....one guy answered the DAW number and said it had nothing to do with him and he did not want to get involved with anything.......I found this very bizaare ......he then gave me a number and said to call them.....needless to say it was a wrong number....I cannot find anyone to help on this.....I daren't send my Airline rep again to them for fear of her being abused as last time........

Really at our wit's end.

Punjabi Boy · Member Joined: 31 Jan 2008 Posts: 219 Location: LONDON LHR

anyone know when the DGCA website is actually updated with the list of admitted intakes????......not been updated since November last year???....??