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PlaneObsessed · Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 58 Location: SEA

cool, I am very happy for AI to finally do something to indicate they were still alive and trying to look modern without looking tacky like some US/EURO low budget carriers.

I like the fact that they got rid of the double lines around the windows that looked hideous especially where they met all the way on the nose and instead now went with just one clean line... also like the fact they kept the window design (though personally would not have missed them but it does give AI a distinct touch)

I didnt like the fact that their emblem (whatever its called) on the tail is cutoff to the point that you cant really tell what its supposed to be. Perhaps on the tail they shouldve put the maharaja?

but again all complaining aside, a very good move!

cant wait to see the new livery in person.

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Gaurav_Dhar · Member Joined: 16 Jan 2007 Posts: 5 Location: LHR

Hey guys please look at the front of the aircraft in the main photo and if u zoom in, there is 'Star' on the lower part of the fuselage below the red line. Is that by anychance the star alliance logo sugesting AI's entry in to the alliance with the new aircraft.Have a close look.There has been a lot of specualtion about this before right.

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Aseem · Member Joined: 15 Dec 2006 Posts: 2841 Location: YYZ

Star Alliance logo is typically on top portion of fusalage near the door. What you are refering to could be IATA logo
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Aiel · Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 927 Location: Bangalore

karatecatman · Guest

If you look at the original photograph, the IATA logo can be seen in front.

Also just below the antennae/dishes on top of the aircraft, there are three break-in points. Is this slightly different?
In the Airbus, its usually at the door area.

himmat01 · Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 1392 Location: DEL

Does AI plan a public launch of it's new livery? I remember back in 1989 when the earlier "new livery" was launched, AI had organized an airshow at Nariman Point. A B747-200(VT-EBN) flew low over the Marine Drive so that the people could get a good view of the new livery.

The AI B-747-200 was followed by a variety of IAF and Indian Navy aircrafts. That was almost 18 years back and I was 18 at that time. I am getting old.
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karatecatman · Guest

A scheme we will most definitely miss:

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the_380 · Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 12:29 am Post subject:

Yes kcm is right ... imho the new livery's golden colour on red looks nice... thats the only thing i liked
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Aseem · Member Joined: 15 Dec 2006 Posts: 2841 Location: YYZ

HAWK21M · Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 11:48 am Post subject:

Bring back the Palace windows.That looked great Smile

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karatecatman · Guest

It does seem to be GOLD!

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Just want to share this comment from salon.com ("Ask the Pilot" forum)
by Capt. Patrick Smith, a veteran pilot.
("Ask the Pilot" is a very interesting series by Patrick.)
http://tinyurl.com/ywkczt

... the heartbreak of Air-India's terrible new look.
Jan. 19.2007
Other early returns for 2007
First, a sneak peak at the latest airline livery abomination. There's been no shortage of these lately, but this one is particularly disappointing because it afflicts Air-India, until now wearer of my all-time favorite color scheme. Here's the original, shown to gorgeous advantage on a 747.
http://tinyurl.com/2ykyyn How can you not love it, from the Rajasthani palace window frames to the Nike-style fin flash? It's exotic, classic, understated, refined. All airlines should be those things.

Now for the update, depicted here http://tinyurl.com/ymfcbn on what I believe is a pre-delivery Boeing 777 at the factory near Seattle. The window arches and striping look emaciated. That scrambled egg on the tail is a bastardized version of the carrier's elegant Sagittarian centaur logo. He appears to have been electrocuted. Laughing

(As for why an Indian company would choose a symbol from European mythology for its emblem, please revisit the archives.) Air-India has started naming its 777s after Indian ragas ("Hamsadhwani," "Kalyani," "Neelambari"), but its uniform, like too many airline makeovers these days, gets all gimmicky and flashy, selling out a part of its identity in the process.

Mods, can he be invited here?
(PatrickSmith@salon.com)

the_380 · Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 3:30 pm Post subject:

That was nice reading it kcm....thanks for sharing
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Jaysit · Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 4346

Air India have truly screwed up the Centaur. The gobbedigook version of the Centaur they've adopted really does look like scrambled eggs. Which genius came up with the idea of doing that to the Centaur? Probably some nitwit at an expensive ad agency who charged AI crores of rupees.

And I have to admit that I will miss AI's old livery. While I don't find the new livery to be as much as an abomination as Patrick Smith does, I think that AI could have fixed the current livery by making smaller changes like changing the color of the Air India script on the fuselage and the tail, and doing away with the bare metal underbelly. But then, taste is all subjective. In any case, they can still fix the new livery by bringing the Centaur to his old self, by keeping the entire tail red and keeping the Centaur whole on the tail as many on A.net have said.

D-ABTH · Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 9:24 am Post subject:

Jasit.. i think id hold it on blaming Air India.. i think its just Boeing showcasing a concept to them.. i dont think AI has had it done officially.

much like what happened to TAAG Angola.. though in that case i feel is the true reverse.. TAAG moving backwards with keeping the old scheme rather than moving forward with the dynamic new image Boeing offered them
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Aseem · Member Joined: 15 Dec 2006 Posts: 2841 Location: YYZ

G-BYGB · Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 12:41 am Post subject:

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/1/1b/Air_India_737-777-787_Fleet.jpg

G-BYGB · Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 12:43 am Post subject:

Aseem,why not?AI's current livery will look great in their new planes just like it is in their B744s.
http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en-commons/thumb/5/5f/250px-Air.india.b747-400.onground.arp.jpg

karatecatman · Guest

PIA's new 777 has also been painted and is it Paine field.
So, its a clash of the great rivals. PIA and AI!

the_380 · Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 1:40 pm Post subject:

karatecatman · Guest

http://tinyurl.com/27gq5o
Its PIA's second 777ER
There are also pictures of the J and Y cabins --- which is how Air India's 777 cabins will look.

Surprised?
The Italian seat manufacturer is supplying the SAME MODEL of seats to both PIA and Air India for their 777s!!!! Exclamation

A look at the tails. Wonder who is taking ideas from whom? Air India or PIA?
http://www.historyofpia.com/tails.htm

himmat01 · Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 1392 Location: DEL

Check out the images created by Liladesign on basis the new livery.

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HAWK21M · Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 11:38 am Post subject:

The Centaur effect looks good though.
Just waiting to see it practically.
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D-ABTH · Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 9:29 pm Post subject:

i dont understand why guys like Royal S King and others havent got any better shot of this bird apart from this single pic Rolling Eyes

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Aseem · Member Joined: 15 Dec 2006 Posts: 2841 Location: YYZ

karatecatman · Guest

Better pictures should be in the line.

The first test flight for VT-ALA is on Feb. 6.
The aircraft has also been moved down.

Aseem · Member Joined: 15 Dec 2006 Posts: 2841 Location: YYZ

a better view of the livery. And it is "mera wala cream"!
cheers!!
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selecta · Member Joined: 24 Dec 2006 Posts: 813 Location: ORD

i like it, not as bad as everybody claims
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D-ABTH · Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:29 am Post subject:

cream = dull = me no like
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Aseem · Member Joined: 15 Dec 2006 Posts: 2841 Location: YYZ

here is the zoomed version.

couple of points to be noted

The name seems to be Andra Pradesh

The palace windows look better
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HAWK21M · Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 1:13 pm Post subject:

So are they being named after states Smile

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Nimish · Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 2:32 pm Post subject:

In this lighting, the background color looks more like a light pink, not so much cream. But hopefully that's just the lighting, I would hate to fly in a Pink a/c!

HamiltonAir · Member Joined: 25 Dec 2006 Posts: 937 Location: Bangalore

Is this livery just an experimental one or will it be painted on the entire fleet?

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the_380 · Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 7:04 pm Post subject:

vivekman · Member Joined: 26 Dec 2006 Posts: 1897 Location: BOM

Earlier I had concerns as the fuselage appeared too white..But the cream tone looks quite nice.

They should increase the surface area of the palace window decoration. One can hardly notice the effect from far!

vivekman · Member Joined: 26 Dec 2006 Posts: 1897 Location: BOM

And a Star would look so nice on the vacant space between the cockpit window and the first door!! Very Happy

aarbee · Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 328 Location: WAS/AMD

HAWK21M · Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 11:13 am Post subject:

Are you talking about the Saw tooth effect on the Fan cowl Trailing edge.Thats deliberate. To improve Efficiency.
The B787 was supposed to have it.

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himmat01 · Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 1392 Location: DEL

The palace windows should have a touch of gold with the red. A centaur between the cockpit window and the first door would look great.
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