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Back to top HamiltonAir Member Joined: 25 Dec 2006 Posts: 937 Location: Bangalore Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 6:26 pm    Post subject: HAWK21M wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Precision_Approach_Path_Indicator http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VASI regds MEL Thanx for the link Mel! Regards, _________________ HamiltonAir Back to top nikhilsc Member Joined: 01 Jan 2007 Posts: 32 Location: DEL Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 11:28 am    Post subject: Re: PAPI and VASI HamiltonAir wrote: This is a question for the pilots and tech gurus. How does a PAPI or VASI function, I mean how useful is it in terms of guiding the aircraft all the way to its touchdown? Regards, yes, they are helpful, but you don't need to them. one can easily land an airplane without the use of these aids ... all you need to do is pick out an aiming point some where on the run way ... aim for the point ... pitch for the point and use the throttle to maintain airpseed. when the point goes beneath the nose ... just round out, and flare and land ... i've landed at a couple of airports without a PAPI or a VASI and this method works just fine ... Back to top selecta Member Joined: 24 Dec 2006 Posts: 813 Location: ORD Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 12:17 pm    Post subject: Re: PAPI and VASI nikhilsc wrote: HamiltonAir wrote: This is a question for the pilots and tech gurus. How does a PAPI or VASI function, I mean how useful is it in terms of guiding the aircraft all the way to its touchdown? Regards, yes, they are helpful, but you don't need to them. one can easily land an airplane without the use of these aids ... all you need to do is pick out an aiming point some where on the run way ... aim for the point ... pitch for the point and use the throttle to maintain airpseed. when the point goes beneath the nose ... just round out, and flare and land ... i've landed at a couple of airports without a PAPI or a VASI and this method works just fine ... i use power to control the rate of descent and pitch to control my airspeed - which happens to work for me. granted every pilot has their own way of doing things. _________________ http://openflights.org/user/citrus Back to top nikhilsc Member Joined: 01 Jan 2007 Posts: 32 Location: DEL Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 1:48 am    Post subject: which planes you flying selecta? Back to top stealthpilot Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 2325 Location: BLR, DXB Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 6:25 am    Post subject: Re: PAPI and VASI nikhilsc wrote: yes, they are helpful, but you don't need to them. You might not need them if you're doing a precision approach or if the sun is shining bright. If it's dark with no terrain features to speak off, a VASI or PAPI is really helpful. Yes you don’t need them as such, but something as simple as that can help out immensely in some instances. selecta wrote: i use power to control the rate of descent and pitch to control my airspeed - which happens to work for me. That’s what we're taught as well. _________________ eP007 Back to top nikhilsc Member Joined: 01 Jan 2007 Posts: 32 Location: DEL Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 1:27 pm    Post subject: hmmm i've been taught the other way around ... seem's to work fine for me so far ... but then again, the only plane's i've flown are the DA 20 and the DA 40 ... Back to top selecta Member Joined: 24 Dec 2006 Posts: 813 Location: ORD Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 1:07 am    Post subject: nikhilsc wrote: which planes you flying selecta? C-152 and C-172 _________________ http://openflights.org/user/citrus Back to top stealthpilot Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 2325 Location: BLR, DXB Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 6:33 am    Post subject: nikhilsc wrote: hmmm i've been taught the other way around ... seem's to work fine for me so far ... but then again, the only plane's i've flown are the DA 20 and the DA 40 ... I have never flown a Diamond aircraft. My university is getting the DA42 to replace the PA44 (Piper Seminole) but sadly I wont fly em. What’s the difference between a DA 20 and DA 40 (fixed pitch, G1000?) Do you fly different planes when you’re shooting for different ratings or how does that work? _________________ eP007 Back to top nikhilsc Member Joined: 01 Jan 2007 Posts: 32 Location: DEL Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 10:43 am    Post subject: stealthpilot wrote: nikhilsc wrote: hmmm i've been taught the other way around ... seem's to work fine for me so far ... but then again, the only plane's i've flown are the DA 20 and the DA 40 ... I have never flown a Diamond aircraft. My university is getting the DA42 to replace the PA44 (Piper Seminole) but sadly I wont fly em. What’s the difference between a DA 20 and DA 40 (fixed pitch, G1000?) Do you fly different planes when you’re shooting for different ratings or how does that work? hey man, me just a PPL, working towards a ME-IR CPL ... so the DA 20's a fixed pitch, 2 seater ... the DA 40's a 4 seater, variable pitch, G1000 ... thats what i'm doing my IR training on. and after this will be moving onto the DA 42 for the ME-IR ... www.diamondair.com for more info ... Back to top selecta Member Joined: 24 Dec 2006 Posts: 813 Location: ORD Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 11:59 pm    Post subject: nikhilsc which flight school are you attending? _________________ http://openflights.org/user/citrus Back to top nikhilsc Member Joined: 01 Jan 2007 Posts: 32 Location: DEL Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 3:42 am    Post subject: selecta wrote: nikhilsc which flight school are you attending? hey i'm at sabena airline training center, mesa, arizona ... what about you? Back to top selecta Member Joined: 24 Dec 2006 Posts: 813 Location: ORD Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 7:55 pm    Post subject: nikhilsc wrote: selecta wrote: nikhilsc which flight school are you attending? hey i'm at sabena airline training center, mesa, arizona ... what about you? Southern Illinois University http://www.aviation.siu.edu/ _________________ http://openflights.org/user/citrus Back to top nikhilsc Member Joined: 01 Jan 2007 Posts: 32 Location: DEL Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 12:48 am    Post subject: cool ... what course you enrolled in? Back to top stealthpilot Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 2325 Location: BLR, DXB Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 2:52 am    Post subject: nikhilsc, are you in the spicejet cadet program? _________________ eP007 Back to top nikhilsc Member Joined: 01 Jan 2007 Posts: 32 Location: DEL Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 6:59 am    Post subject: stealthpilot wrote: nikhilsc, are you in the spicejet cadet program? errr roger that! Back to top selecta Member Joined: 24 Dec 2006 Posts: 813 Location: ORD Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 10:08 am    Post subject: nikhilsc wrote: cool ... what course you enrolled in? I started my instrument training on Monday. nikhilsc wrote: errr roger that! what happens after your finished at Sabena, do you go directly for a rating on the 737? _________________ http://openflights.org/user/citrus Back to top nikhilsc Member Joined: 01 Jan 2007 Posts: 32 Location: DEL Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 1:00 pm    Post subject: well yes and no ... depends on how quick one can get the license converted to an indian one ... but yeah, once we get an indian license, we will start of with the ground classes for the B738 ... and do the sim training in either DXB or HK Back to top selecta Member Joined: 24 Dec 2006 Posts: 813 Location: ORD Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 9:03 pm    Post subject: nikhilsc wrote: well yes and no ... depends on how quick one can get the license converted to an indian one ... but yeah, once we get an indian license, we will start of with the ground classes for the B738 ... and do the sim training in either DXB or HK how does one go about getting their license converted? _________________ http://openflights.org/user/citrus Back to top nikhilsc Member Joined: 01 Jan 2007 Posts: 32 Location: DEL Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 6:39 am    Post subject: well you gotta apply for a computer no, give a couple of exams, get a Class I medical done ... but all that's easier said then done. are you indian? Back to top HAWK21M Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 8132 Location: Mumbai, INDIA Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 3:11 pm    Post subject: http://dgca.nic.in/cars/D7G-G1.pdf regds MEL _________________ Think of the Brighter side !!! Back to top stealthpilot Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 2325 Location: BLR, DXB Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 3:52 am    Post subject: selecta wrote: I started my instrument training on Monday. Good luck.. In my opinion it’s the hardest course- but it can be fun sometimes A bunch of my friends said they loved it, personally I enjoyed my private and commercial multi courses the best. _________________ eP007 Back to top Vishal Jolapara Member Joined: 11 Jun 2007 Posts: 236 Location: Mumbai, India. Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 11:04 am    Post subject: nikhilsc wrote: stealthpilot wrote: nikhilsc, are you in the spicejet cadet program? errr roger that! Even my friend Aravanth (who's also a member here on ai-ind.net) is there at Sabena, and he too has been selected for the Spicejet Cadet Program. Wonder if you know him ? In the meanwhile, i am slogging on at accumulating the funds to finance my dream of flying. Back to top nikhilsc Member Joined: 01 Jan 2007 Posts: 32 Location: DEL Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 1:08 pm    Post subject: Vishal Jolapara wrote: nikhilsc wrote: stealthpilot wrote: nikhilsc, are you in the spicejet cadet program? errr roger that! Even my friend Aravanth (who's also a member here on ai-ind.net) is there at Sabena, and he too has been selected for the Spicejet Cadet Program. Wonder if you know him ? In the meanwhile, i am slogging on at accumulating the funds to finance my dream of flying. haha, yeah know aravinth very well. he's doing really well in his flying ... both of us were in the same batch while doing ground school in gurgaon. which school you planning on heading to? Back to top gauravprakash007 Member Joined: 23 Mar 2007 Posts: 37 Location: VABB Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 5:44 pm    Post subject: Quote: he's doing really well in his flying ... here we go again! he says Aravinth is topping the class..then in a short time Aravinth says that Nikhil is topping the class! actuall both of em are doing very well and giving their instructors a tough time! btw tell us your experiences on the diamonds.... they look pretty sleek! _________________ Lost student pilot: "Unknown airport with Cessna 150 circling overhead, identify yourself." www.indianpilots.great-forum.com - Admin Back to top nikhilsc Member Joined: 01 Jan 2007 Posts: 32 Location: DEL Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 12:14 am    Post subject: hahaha, mr. 007 is funny! well the DA 20, is a nice a/c, easy to fly, BUT ... the engine's don't like the hot weather here in arizona ... it's fuel injected ... and we get a lot of vapour locks etc. plus if you take off in the afternoon and start climbing ... after a couple of thousand feet you see the oil pressure dropping below green and the oil temperature rising above the green arc ... engine shuddering etc ... the one cool thing about it DA 20 is that it has an altitude compensating fuel pump. so you don't need to worry about leaning the mixture as you climb. i've started with my IR training on the DA 40 ... and well, that's one cool a/c ... G1000 and nice lycoming 180 HP ... no problems what so ever ... did a VOR approach day before yesterday and a GPS approach yesterday ... and a lot of holding patterns! still getting a hang of the plane ... coz now i have a throttle, prop rpm and the mixture to play with got a basic instrument check coming up next week, so wish me luck! Back to top gauravprakash007 Member Joined: 23 Mar 2007 Posts: 37 Location: VABB Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 12:31 am    Post subject: Quote: you see the oil pressure dropping below green and the oil temperature rising above the green arc ... engine shuddering etc Yikes! Quote: the one cool thing about it DA 20 is that it has an altitude compensating fuel pump. so you don't need to worry about leaning the mixture as you climb. Oh man! Thats ultra cool! Its a pain to put that to lean and rich all the time! ALL THE BEST Hope u keep the meters in the green arc! Blue SKies! _________________ Lost student pilot: "Unknown airport with Cessna 150 circling overhead, identify yourself." www.indianpilots.great-forum.com - Admin Back to top selecta Member Joined: 24 Dec 2006 Posts: 813 Location: ORD Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 3:52 am    Post subject: stealthpilot wrote: selecta wrote: I started my instrument training on Monday. Good luck.. In my opinion it’s the hardest course- but it can be fun sometimes A bunch of my friends said they loved it, personally I enjoyed my private and commercial multi courses the best. yeah i've heard many pilots say the same thing to me, oh well its gotta be done - i'm trying to stay positive. _________________ http://openflights.org/user/citrus Back to top nikhilsc Member Joined: 01 Jan 2007 Posts: 32 Location: DEL Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 5:36 am    Post subject: me don't like IR either! and after IR i gotta get a CPL with a ME-IR! oh brother! Back to top selecta Member Joined: 24 Dec 2006 Posts: 813 Location: ORD Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 9:57 am    Post subject: nikhilsc wrote: me don't like IR either! and after IR i gotta get a CPL with a ME-IR! oh brother! what stage are you on? i'm on stage 3 _________________ http://openflights.org/user/citrus Back to top nikhilsc Member Joined: 01 Jan 2007 Posts: 32 Location: DEL Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 2:12 pm    Post subject: hmmm we don't have stages ... so not sure what stage 3 means me on mission 48 right now ... mission 50 is a internal basic IR check ... then mission 62 is the internal IR check and 63 is the final FAA IR check ... each mission is 1.5 hours ... so that should give you some idea as to where i'm at ... our IR training started at mission 39 ... mission 38 was our FAA PPL check ... so what does stage 3 mean? Back to top stealthpilot Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 2325 Location: BLR, DXB Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 11:00 pm    Post subject: nikhilsc wrote: so what does stage 3 mean? It differs from school to school. My instrument course had 2 stages; stage 1 was single engine, only holding/intercepting/non precision approaches. Stage 2 was multi + precissision + single engine stuff + everything else. Good luck.... holding in the G1000 is (believe it or not) pretty easy. Heck I learned with an HSI and that was a big help. I did some flying later on with an old fashion VOR and it took me a while to get used to it _________________ eP007 Back to top nikhilsc Member Joined: 01 Jan 2007 Posts: 32 Location: DEL Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 1:23 am    Post subject: hehe, i pretty much use the HSI as well as the instructor turns off the MFD. edit: i got a CPL ME-IR this week! Last edited by nikhilsc on Sat Feb 16, 2008 11:41 am; edited 1 time in total Back to top selecta Member Joined: 24 Dec 2006 Posts: 813 Location: ORD Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 11:14 am    Post subject: nikhilsc wrote: hehe, i pretty much use the HSI as well as the instructor turns off the MFD. edit: i got my IR yesterday! Congrats. how is commerical going so far nikhilsc? _________________ http://openflights.org/user/citrus Back to top nikhilsc Member Joined: 01 Jan 2007 Posts: 32 Location: DEL Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 10:02 pm    Post subject: selecta wrote: nikhilsc wrote: hehe, i pretty much use the HSI as well as the instructor turns off the MFD. edit: i got my IR yesterday! Congrats. how is commerical going so far nikhilsc? thanks selecta! commercial's not going anywhere ... flown once in the last 7 days ... just pathetic ... got a cross country time building stage in between. and then will start off with single engine commercial stuff and finally the multi engine commercial stuff ... there's a long long way to go! but yeah, it's gonna be good fun trying to do a partial panel, single engine out approach in te DA 42! how's your flying coming along? Back to top selecta Member Joined: 24 Dec 2006 Posts: 813 Location: ORD Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 12:20 am    Post subject: our program divides instrument into 4 stages, basic attitute, departure - holds, approaches, and then a grade ride. i'm done with the first stage and i've got a checkride next week on holds. so i'll be spending my free time this weekend studying. _________________ http://openflights.org/user/citrus Back to top nikhilsc Member Joined: 01 Jan 2007 Posts: 32 Location: DEL Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 2:06 am    Post subject: selecta wrote: our program divides instrument into 4 stages, basic attitute, departure - holds, approaches, and then a grade ride. i'm done with the first stage and i've got a checkride next week on holds. so i'll be spending my free time this weekend studying. man, good luck with that! how many turns do you do in a hold on average? we used to just do like one ... never used wind correction! Back to top selecta Member Joined: 24 Dec 2006 Posts: 813 Location: ORD Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 12:13 pm    Post subject: i doubt i've ever done more than 3 for a hold. yeah i've had to do hold in 40 knot crosswinds - something that i hope i never have to do again. we get pretty strong winds in the midwest - especially during late spring and mid fall (around this time of the year) btw do you have a facebook account? _________________ http://openflights.org/user/citrus Back to top nikhilsc Member Joined: 01 Jan 2007 Posts: 32 Location: DEL Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 9:24 pm    Post subject: man 40 knots ain't funny ... yup am on facebook ... 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