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At the moment there are four airlines operating both domestic and int'l.KF will go int'l very soon.But there is one thing that I want to know.Will we see any airlines ,apart from those mentioned,remain as only domestic carrier?Like South west airlines of US which is only a domestic carrier that has done well for so many years.
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AKLDELNonstop · Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 1066 Location: Auckland

I see Spicejet and Go Air remaining as domestic players atleast in the medium term. Also, I feel once IT is allowed to go intl, it will stop addfing frequencies on its domestic routes, in fact it might even pull out of certain domestic routes.

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VABBy · Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 823 Location: DEL

Honestly speaking this is a real good one when it comes to discussion. we are seeing all the carriers almost dying to go international as if golden treasures awaits them across the shore. With the kind of farewar going on i guess its difficult to determine who would just like to remain a domestic carrier.

Btw has the GOI decided to allow airlines with 3 year record international? I thought they are still deciding and with the kind of govermental bottlenecks its a long way to go.

Bt yeah with the coming up of the new airports at BLR, HYD and then DEL and BOM at the later stage this will definately make things better in the domestic front there by easing pressure at airlines as the congestion wont be there which means operational costs would be down.

In the mean time we should be giving thrust to developing secondary airports too
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the_380 · Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 8:13 pm Post subject:

Every carrier wants to go intl if they get the rights. But the minimum rule doesnt't permit them to. Else the common mentality in the airlines is to operate major intl routes and trunk domestic routes
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JumboJet · Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 11:36 am Post subject:

Akshay · Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 315 Location: Mumbai

If one goes by the rules, Every airline can operate international flights after 5 years. It is the choice of the airlines whether to actually operate int'l routes or not.

But, going by the current rush to fly int'l I don't think any operator would prefer to remain domestic only.

HAWK21M · Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 8:28 pm Post subject:

Maintaining those Big birds rfor International ops equires a good Mx setup or some cash to Outsource it.
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G-BYGB · Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 8:55 pm Post subject:

Most of the airlines are new comers.They need atleast 4 to 5 years to make good ground in Domestic sector.Even if they do get the green signal to operate int'l routes,it will be too early for them to go int'l.DN should forget about operating int'l routes bcoz of their delays and poor services.
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G-BYGB · Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 8:59 pm Post subject:

Jet and Air sahara have more the than 10 years of experience in domestic sec and KF,although new can manage bcoz it has money but Go air,Spice jet and Indigo should concentrate only on domestic for now atleast.
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karatecatman · Guest

Things are also going to change with the first step towards a global LCC alliance. If the Air Asia-Virgin-Easy jet alliance takes off, Air Deccan is being considered as a partner. India is in the plan of this new alliance.

With Deccan Aviation offloading 6.14% of its stock to a UK stockbroking and banking firm recently, Gopinath is changing plan slowly.

Nimish · Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 12:18 pm Post subject:

I would love to see India become a regional hub for flights with the Indian subcontinent. Say flights from Male->BOM->BKK being operated by DN or CMB->BLR->DAC by Indigo. Or ideally some of the LCCs trying to create mini-hubs providing either east<->west or north<->south connectivity.

Kind of like how people fly UL on DEL-CMB-BKK sectors! With booming economies/tourist potential in countries like SIN, Malaysia, Thailand, Vietnam etc, to be connected to points west/south of India (like Pakistan/Afghanistan/ Maldives etc.)

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karatecatman · Guest

Don;t think it is dreaming.

The ways things are happening, it's quite likely.

G-BYGB · Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 1:05 pm Post subject:

So you guys don't think there will be one airline that will concentrate only on domestic sector.If thats the case then thats good for our country.Soon you'll find people traveling to foreign destination at a cheaper rate.
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malQ · Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 1:13 pm Post subject:

Indigo has a stated objective of remaining a pure domestic passenger operation play. But then, I guess things change, and we shall see. As of now, they still have the biggest order-book, right?

Right. 100 A-320 aircraft in a 180-seat all economy configuration.

Nimish · Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 1:59 pm Post subject:

the_380 · Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 6:27 pm Post subject:

AKLDELNonstop · Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 1066 Location: Auckland

How many a/c have Indigo received so far? I think just two if Im not mistaken. Any info on their delivery schedule? BTW I would love to see a 332 in Indigo livery.

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himmat01 · Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 1392 Location: DEL

G-BYGB · Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 1:02 pm Post subject:

Whether or not will Indigo,GO air or spicejet go int'l,depends soley on how much profit they can make and sustain it in domestic sector for over 3 years time before they get the clearence.
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HAWK21M · Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 2:44 pm Post subject:

Currently the Requirement to qualify for International ops is 5 yrs.There are rumours floating that this tenure might be relaxed.A big player is Mx capability of during International ops.Out sourcing can be expensive.
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the_380 · Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 10:57 pm Post subject:

Got a picture of IndiGo A320 at Guwhati. Will post the link as soon as its uploaded. Any ideas what is the route to Guwhati?
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G-BYGB · Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 11:55 pm Post subject:

HAWK21M · Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 2:53 pm Post subject:

Guwahati-Imphal: 08:20-09:05 6E 201 daily
Guwahati-Delhi: 11:10-13:35 6E 202 daily
Guwahati-Kolkata: 19:40-20:50 6E 204 daily

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the_380 · Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 6:02 pm Post subject:

Thanks for the update G-BYGB and HAWK21M
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the_380 · Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 12:58 pm Post subject:

Here's the picture clicked at Guwhati. Also a Kingfisher A320
Click on it to go to the full sized image

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