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https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news/82219-indias-alliance-air-eyes-jaffna-batticaloa-ops
Alliance Air eyes Jaffna, Batticaloa ops
08.10.2019
Alliance Air will operate a one-off charter flight from Chennai to Jaffna in northern Sri Lanka on October 14, 2019, as it prepares to launch maiden scheduled services to secondary cities on the island, Ceylon Today has reported.
The initial flight to Jaffna will be the first international commercial service to the airport since the 1980s, when the airport was converted to a military-only facility during the Sri Lankan Civil War. In 2002, the Sri Lanka Air Force opened the domestic passenger terminal at the airport. In early 2019, the government approved a LKR2.25 billion rupee (UDS12.4 million) investment plan to facilitate international traffic at Jaffna airport. The airport continues to be managed by the air force.
Alliance Air said it will be looking at launching scheduled flights in the future. IndiGo Airlines has also been reported as looking at Jaffna airport.
Alliance Air, which is wholly-owned by Air India and operates turboprop flights on behalf of the flag carrier, is also planning to launch services to Batticaloa in the east of Sri Lanka once the airport opens to international traffic.
Currently, the sole international gateway on Sri Lanka is Colombo Int'l. Hambantota lost its only foreign route, to Dubai Int'l (via Colombo Int'l), when flydubai (FZ, Dubai Int'l) pulled out in June 2018
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Air India expands Hong Kong Airlines codeshare from Oct 2019
Air India earlier this month expanded codeshare partnership with Hong Kong Airlines, covering 6 routes operated by the latter, including Japan, Korea, Vietnam and Indonesia. Approximately effective from 07OCT19 or earlier, planned new codeshare routes include the following.
Air India operated by Hong Kong Airlines
Hong Kong Denpasar
Hong Kong Ho Chi Minh City
Hong Kong Okinawa
Hong Kong Osaka Kansai
Hong Kong Seoul Incheon
Hong Kong Tokyo Narita
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Air India revises Mumbai Hong Kong service in 4Q19
Air India in recent schedule update once again filed service changes for its planned Mumbai Hong Kong route. Inaugural flight is now scheduled on 28OCT19, instead of 27OCT19. The airline now schedules 3 weekly flights initially, instead of 7, from 28OCT19 to 27NOV19, on board Boeing 787-8 Dreamliner.
AI316 BOM0820 1635HKG 788 137
AI311 HKG1800 2150BOM 788 137
Planned daily service is now scheduled from 28NOV19.
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Air India delays Mumbai Hong Kong launch to Dec 2019
Air India in the last few days further revised planned service launch on Mumbai Hong Kong route.
Previously scheduled as 3 weekly flights from 28OCT19 (7 weekly from 28NOV19), the Star Alliance carrier has delayed the launch to 21DEC19, operating daily.
Boeing 787-8 Dreamliner operates this route.
AI316 BOM0820 1635HKG 788 D
AI311 HKG1800 2150BOM 788 D
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https://www.indiatimes.com/news/air-india-will-mark-550th-gurpurab-celebrations-with-ek-onkar-symbol-on-its-aircraft-378736.html
Air India UK flight to bear Ek Onkar symbol to mark 550th Gurpurab celebrations
Oct 28, 2019
Air India has put the Sikh 'Ek Onkar' symbol on its aircraft tail to mark Guru Nanak Dev's 550th Gurpurab celebrations. This is the first time an Indian airline has made such a gesture.
'Ek Onkar' symbol is a central tenet of Sikh religious philosophy.
The national carrier has put the religious symbol on its Boeing 787 aircraft which will fly on 31st October from Amritsar at 3 am to Stansted, United Kingdom (UK).
Air India will fly its aircraft thrice a week on the Mumbai-Amritsar-Stansted route to commemorate the 550th birth anniversary of Sikhism founder Guru Nanak Dev. The flight will operate on Monday, Thursday and Saturday.
The international flight from Amritsar to Stansted in London will facilitate Sikh pilgrims visiting Punjab on the occasion. The aircraft has the flight capacity of 256-seats and will serve Punjabi cuisine to the passengers onboard.
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https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news/82871-indias-alliance-air-eyes-network-growth
Alliance Air eyes network growth
29.10.2019
Alliance Air is planning to rapidly develop its domestic network, benefitting from the support granted by the central government under the UDAN Regional Connectivity Scheme, Chief Executive C S Subbiah told Indian newswire PTI.
"We are looking at flying to Jagdalpur, Kalaburagi (Gulbarga). These are the two new routes. The flight from Gulbarga will connect to Bangalore Int'l and later to Chennai. Jagdalpur route would be connected from Hyderabad Int'l then later to Raipur and then it would go to Bhopal," he said.
Kalaburagi is a new airport in central India which is due to open on November 15, 2019. It has yet to secure any scheduled traffic.
Subbiah clarified that the airline will announce a host of new routes for the Winter 2019/20 season, with launches scheduled to happen within the next two months. All new services will be operated with ATR72-600 equipment. According to the ch-aviation fleets advanced module, Alliance Air currently operates 18 such turboprops and two ATR42-300s.
Alliance Air is also looking at expansion in the north-east of India, with prospective flights from Guwahati to Dimapur and Imphal, as well as in the south with services from Madurai to Tiruchirapally. Finally, in the west of India, Alliance Air is eyeing flights from Nashik to Pune and from Ahmedabad to Kandla.
The regional specialist, a wholly-owned subsidiary of Air India, has also recently operated its first international flight, to Jaffna in northern Sri Lanka. While the October 17 flight was a one-off charter, Alliance Air is planning to add the Sri Lankan airport to its scheduled network.
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Air India further postpones Mumbai Hong Kong launch to January 2020
1 November 2019
Air India in latest schedule update once again postpones planned service on Mumbai Hong Kong route, as latest launch date is now set on 21JAN20, instead of 21DEC19.
Planned daily Boeing 787-8 Dreamliner service remains unchanged for the moment.
AI316 BOM0820 1635HKG 788 D
AI311 HKG1800 2150BOM 788 D
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| Has this continuous postponement of this flight got something to do with the political situation in HKG? |
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Air India Bangkok inventory changes from Jan 2020
Air India in recent inventory update closed reservation for selected service to Bangkok, for travel on/after 20JAN20. The closure of selected service at this stage would see the Star Alliance carrier downsizing Bangkok flights.
Bangalore Bangkok eff 20JAN20 Reservation for 4 weekly A321 service closed
Delhi Bangkok eff 20JAN20 AI332/333 closed for reservation (AI334/335 A321 service available for booking)
Kolkata Bangkok eff 21JAN20 Reservation for 3 weekly A321 service closed
Mumbai Bangkok eff 20JAN20 Reservation for 1 daily 787-8 service closed
These adjustment is also reflected in summer 2020 schedule, on/after 29MAR20.
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Air India 1Q20 Delhi London aircraft changes
Air India in the first quarter of 2020 is expanding Delhi London Heathrow capacity, as the airline once again schedules Boeing 777-300ER aircraft on 1 of 2 daily flight. The 777 is scheduled to operate AI111/112 from 07JAN20 to 28MAR20.
AI161 DEL0230 0635LHR 788 D
AI111 DEL1445 1855LHR 77W D
AI162 LHR0845 2225DEL 788 D
AI112 LHR2130 1120+1DEL 77W D
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Air India re-opens Mumbai Bangkok booking from late-Jan 2020 with new schedule
Air India this week re-opened reservation for Mumbai Bangkok route, for travel on/after 20JAN20.
From this date, service will be operated by Airbus A321 aircraft with revised schedule, replacing Boeing 787-8 Dreamliner aircraft.
AI340 BOM1415 1950BKK 32B x246
AI340 BOM1430 2005BKK 32B 2
AI340 BOM1440 2015BKK 32B 46
AI341 BKK0540 0825BOM 32B D
The airlines Kolkata Bangkok and Bangalore Bangkok service remains closed for reservation, for travel on/after 20JAN20.
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Air India sale by march 2020
Finance Minister Nirmala Sitharaman has announced that the government plans to wrap up sale of ailing Air India and Bharat Petroleum Corporation Limited (BPCL) by March 2020.
Speaking to Times of India, the finance minister confirmed that the government is focused on divesting the two state-run companies by the end of the financial year.
This will form a crucial chunk of the governments plan to raise Rs 1 lakh crore in the current fiscal as India continues to tackle a steep demand slowdown.
We are moving on both with the expectation that we can complete them this year. The ground realities will play out, Sitharaman told the publication.
Sitharaman also said investor interest about Air India is optimistic at the moment, contrary to a tepid response received during the bidding process a year ago.
https://www.indiatoday.in/business/story/air-india-bharat-petroleum-sale-by-march-2020-nirmala-sitharaman-1619871-2019-11-17
So who would want to pick up this white elephant?
Anyway, better late than never. I hope AI gets a good management. About time a country like India gets a world class flag carrier. We only seem to be good at coming up with excuses.
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| The_Goat wrote: | Air India sale by march 2020
Finance Minister Nirmala Sitharaman has announced that the government plans to wrap up sale of ailing Air India and Bharat Petroleum Corporation Limited (BPCL) by March 2020.
Speaking to Times of India, the finance minister confirmed that the government is focused on divesting the two state-run companies by the end of the financial year.
This will form a crucial chunk of the governments plan to raise Rs 1 lakh crore in the current fiscal as India continues to tackle a steep demand slowdown.
We are moving on both with the expectation that we can complete them this year. The ground realities will play out, Sitharaman told the publication.
Sitharaman also said investor interest about Air India is optimistic at the moment, contrary to a tepid response received during the bidding process a year ago.
https://www.indiatoday.in/business/story/air-india-bharat-petroleum-sale-by-march-2020-nirmala-sitharaman-1619871-2019-11-17
So who would want to pick up this white elephant?
Anyway, better late than never. I hope AI gets a good management. About time a country like India gets a world class flag carrier. We only seem to be good at coming up with excuses. |
Rs. 1 lakh crore (14 billion USD) is a probably an unachievable goal and while Bharat Petroleum will fetch a nice chunk, they wont get anything for AI, especially if the long term debt is included.
AI should get prospective bidders without the long term debt and with the condition that the government will not own anything after it is sold and no guarantees whatsoever for the employees. |
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| Nirmala Sitharaman, clueless as ever. |
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/air-india-close-not-privatised-113311791.html
Air India will have to close if not privatised: aviation minister - Hardeep Singh who is the minister of state.
AI will survive in some form, they have good lucrative long haul routes which are at least breaking even. All the problems with AI are its long term debt and how to reduce the employee count and cut long term benefits. |
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AI will survive in some form, they have good lucrative long haul routes which are at least breaking even. . |
Really?
Weren't we told not so long ago, that the only profitable international route profitable for AI was Kolkata-Yangon? That they were losing money even on bread-butter routes like BOM-LHR and MAA-SIN, and that they were counting on Guru Nanak Ji's blessings to make the likes of ATQ-BHX turn the tide for them?
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Air India Washington aircraft changes from Jan 2020
Air India in this weeks schedule update filed aircraft changes for Delhi Washington Dulles service, scheduled in the first quarter of 2020. From 08JAN20, the Star Alliance carrier will operate Boeing 787-8 Dreamliner 3 times weekly, replacing 777-300ER. First Class service will not be offered due to aircraft change.
AI103 DEL0115 0615IAD 788 357
AI104 IAD1025 1100+1DEL 788 357
The 787-8 is also scheduled for summer season, on/after 29MAR20.
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| 747-237 wrote: | Air India Washington aircraft changes from Jan 2020
Air India in this weeks schedule update filed aircraft changes for Delhi Washington Dulles service, scheduled in the first quarter of 2020. From 08JAN20, the Star Alliance carrier will operate Boeing 787-8 Dreamliner 3 times weekly, replacing 777-300ER. First Class service will not be offered due to aircraft change.
AI103 DEL0115 0615IAD 788 357
AI104 IAD1025 1100+1DEL 788 357
The 787-8 is also scheduled for summer season, on/after 29MAR20.
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Wow didn't think the 788 could make such a long flight. Surprised they aren't increasing frequency. IAD has a very large Indian population plus it is a huge STAR FF base/hub |
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| Caliguy wrote: | | Wow didn't think the 788 could make such a long flight. Surprised they aren't increasing frequency. IAD has a very large Indian population plus it is a huge STAR FF base/hub |
I actually suspect the opposite. For lower average loads, a weight-restricted Dream)liner will possibly be the best fit for the route. Further, the first class demand may also not be much in the first quarter, so it may make sense to put the dense J+Y in a weight-restricted mode and operate it. The Government traffic is fairly consistent, but will possibly not be sufficient to fill a wide-body. Things would have been better of course, had UA code-shares been around for AI, out of IAD. The B77Ws can be put to use for longer routes.
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| sumantra wrote: | | Caliguy wrote: | | Wow didn't think the 788 could make such a long flight. Surprised they aren't increasing frequency. IAD has a very large Indian population plus it is a huge STAR FF base/hub |
I actually suspect the opposite. For lower average loads, a weight-restricted Dream)liner will possibly be the best fit for the route. Further, the first class demand may also not be much in the first quarter, so it may make sense to put the dense J+Y in a weight-restricted mode and operate it. The Government traffic is fairly consistent, but will possibly not be sufficient to fill a wide-body. Things would have been better of course, had UA code-shares been around for AI, out of IAD. The B77Ws can be put to use for longer routes.
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I have no issue with them changing to a 788. I just thought it didn't have the range. That was all. On the frequency issue, I thought AI couldn't increase IAD because of a lack of 77Ws. The DC metro is a huge Indian-Am population center. 3X doesn't even serve VFR properly. I would think a 5X flight would be a good balance (assuming the route is not that strong). With 3X you don't even know the real potential. Basically it is for retirees. |
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| Caliguy wrote: | | I have no issue with them changing to a 788. I just thought it didn't have the range. That was all. On the frequency issue, I thought AI couldn't increase IAD because of a lack of 77Ws. The DC metro is a huge Indian-Am population center. 3X doesn't even serve VFR properly. I would think a 5X flight would be a good balance (assuming the route is not that strong). With 3X you don't even know the real potential. Basically it is for retirees. |
I think that it is a decent move, given the circumstances. Possibly a better hard Y product (since AI will just not refurbish most of the IFE in the B777s), a decent soft product in Y (leg-room, baggage, food), and the weight-restricted one will cater to the realistic pax numbers better, with the Dream)liners. AI aren't exactly setting the market afire with their product or connectivity, unfortunately. Being realistic is better for the Indian taxpayer. From what I know, 3x weekly is a good and realistic estimate of the numbers, to maintain the route at a decent cost.
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Air India S20 London Heathrow aircraft changes as of 13DEC19
Air India in this weeks schedule update extended capacity increase for London Heathrow service into summer 2020 season.
From 29MAR20, Boeing 777-300ER will continue to operate flights from Delhi and Mumbai, 1 daily each.
Delhi London Heathrow
eff 29MAR20 AI111/112 777-300ER continues to operate 1 daily, replacing 787-8
AI161 DEL0245 0730LHR 788 D
AI111 DEL1400 1900LHR 77W D
AI162 LHR0945 2250DEL 788 D
AI112 LHR2130 1040+1DEL 77W D
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eff 29MAR20 777-300ER continues to operate 1 daily, replacing 787-8
AI131 BOM0630 1130LHR 77W D
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Air India expands Toronto flights from late-March 2020
Air India in this weeks schedule update filed service increase for Delhi Toronto service, for summer 2020 season.
From 29MAR20, the airline will operate this route on daily basis, increasing from existing 3 weekly flights.
Boeing 777-300ER operates this route.
AI187 DEL0300 0845YYZ 77W D
AI188 YYZ1215 1215+1DEL 77W D
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| 747-237 wrote: | | Air India expands Toronto flights from late-March 2020 |
The freed-up frames from the IAD route, post a heavy check? A high-demand relatively low-yield route, a band-aid solution to counter AC's DEL-YYZ on the same aircraft type, the B77W?
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Air India 1Q20 Nairobi frequency changes
Air India in the first quarter of 2020 season plans frequency adjustment on Mumbai Nairobi route, currently served 4 times weekly.
From 15JAN20 to 29MAR20, overall service will be adjusted to 3 weekly.
Boeing 787-8 Dreamliner operates this route.
AI961 BOM0625 1000NBO 788 357
AI962 NBO1130 2010BOM 788 357
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| 747-237 wrote: | Air India 1Q20 Nairobi frequency changes
Air India in the first quarter of 2020 season plans frequency adjustment on Mumbai Nairobi route, currently served 4 times weekly.
From 15JAN20 to 29MAR20, overall service will be adjusted to 3 weekly.
Boeing 787-8 Dreamliner operates this route.
AI961 BOM0625 1000NBO 788 357
AI962 NBO1130 2010BOM 788 357
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If the same timings had been in PM, AI would have picked up more connecting traffic. As it stands they cannot get much of connecting passengers. Either it was a slot issue or a plane utilization issue or just poor planning on the part of AI. |
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| Trying to book a flight on AI website for domestic India travel. It is not working for last 16 hours. Any one see the same issue. |
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| iah87 wrote: | | Trying to book a flight on AI website for domestic India travel. It is not working for last 16 hours. Any one see the same issue. |
Was it a glitch? Things look fine right now, at both the interfaces to the booking engine:
https://bookme.airindia.in/AirIndiaB2C/Booking/Select
https://book.airindia.in/itd/itd
You have also highlighted one of the disappointing issues with AI being a Government airline: if something goes wrong outside `duty' hours of the staff concerned, it is a cul de sac. All hell breaks lose.
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| iah87 wrote: | | Either it was a slot issue or a plane utilization issue or just poor planning on the part of AI. |
The chances of the third are a bit less. This is quite suprising, given the pitiable state they currently are in (minimal Government support, possible privatisation without a willing taker, danger of a lockout): they still retain some of the best in business.
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Air India adds Boeing 747 domestic sectors in late-Dec 2019
Air India in late-December 2019 added extra Boeing 747-400 service on domestic routes, including flights to Bangalore and Chennai.
Planned operation as follows.
Delhi Bangalore 20DEC19 / 27DEC19
AI174 DEL1720 2000BLR 744
AI173 BLR2120 2355DEL 744
Delhi Chennai 16DEC19 / 23DEC19 / 30DEC19
AI042 DEL1710 1945MAA 744
AI043 MAA2115 2355DEL 744
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| 747-237 wrote: | | [i]Air India adds Boeing 747 domestic sectors in late-Dec 2019 |
The B744s have been doing two rotations on the DEL-BOM sector for a while (BOM main runway repairs, large pax demand on the route): they tweaked this from AI 864-865-677-024 to AI 864-865-677-624. The demand is quite high, from what I hear. The interiors are in bad shape on an average, but for an avgeek point of view, it is a wonderful way to get the widest-body domestic flight in India! Lucky pax...most of them won't even appreciate the rarity of the aircraft type on the sector.
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| sumantra wrote: | The B744s have been doing two rotations on the DEL-BOM sector for a while (BOM main runway repairs, large pax demand on the route): they tweaked this from AI 864-865-677-024 to AI 864-865-677-624. The demand is quite high, from what I hear. The interiors are in bad shape on an average, but for an avgeek point of view, it is a wonderful way to get the widest-body domestic flight in India! Lucky pax...most of them won't even appreciate the rarity of the aircraft type on the sector.
Cheers, Sumantra. |
That's right, the interiors were in awful shape when I flew aboard an AI744 last year. Must be worse now.
Sumantra, I hope they can hold on to them until April 2021 : will make it 50 continuous years of 747 operations for Air India.
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Here's a little bit about the former IA / AI / AI Cargo / India Post B732, VT-EGG.
Sumantra, there's a mention about the Dakota at CCU, that you particularly would enjoy.
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| 747-237 wrote: | That's right, the interiors were in awful shape when I flew aboard an AI744 last year. Must be worse now.
Sumantra, I hope they can hold on to them until April 2021 : will make it 50 continuous years of 747 operations for Air India. |
747-237: I was compeltely shocked to see working IFE units (with some remotes actually looking new) on two B77Ws I have been on this month: `Jammu & Kashmir' and `Meghalaya' on 15 and 16 Dec, respectively, along with some upholstery having been changed. Yes, I guess this `Spring of Prague' may not apply either to the B744s or the B77Ls, for different reasons altogether. The B744s are being held for the high-demand days on a few routes (which are now more regular than before): I doubt if they will be retired that soon. The B744 washrooms (one of which had collapsed on `Agra', IIRC) have been repaired, from what I hear. It is just that the general demeanour is one of dilapidation.
The 3 B77Ls: will possibly not see any refurbishment any time soon, till a heavy check. They are putting in a good number of hours on the SFO route, for instance.
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| 747-237 wrote: | Here's a little bit about the former IA / AI / AI Cargo / India Post B732, VT-EGG.
Sumantra, there's a mention about the Dakota at CCU, that you particularly would enjoy. |
747-237: EGG holds some memories for me. I had even sketched the plane as our plane stood to its side at CCU on a late morning in 2001 (I will share this, if I can locate it).
With regard to the second point, this unfortunately does not enthuse me much, since I know that possibly nothing is going to happen to this historic aircraft, and that ti may have to be parted out soon (there is some lack of interest from those who earlier wanted it to be relocated to BBI, which would have been really apt for the beautiful BBI airport terminals, as well as apt for the city, in general, given that the airport is named after the famous political figure). The F-27 and HS-748 have been parted out already, and this DC-3 is in bad shape (the fuselage threatens to break into two, from what I hear.
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| I have friends at the World Bank who took the IAD-DEL nonstop. I told them what to expect in J and said that the convenience of a nonstop overcomes spotty IFE, a shoddy cabin, and an overall B- product. They took it, and agreed with me. |
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| iah87 wrote: | | What is this AI's obsession with London Stansted. Is there that much unique traffic to this area of London. They could have tried to add more flights to LHR, especially with Jet's collapse. |
Huge pressure on AI to do this. Related: if you joint the dots, ATQ is becoming a micro-hub (I will try an NDC-ATQ-DEL connection next month). AI is trying its best to adapt to this pressure.
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| iah87 wrote: | https://www.eturbonews.com/537460/air-india-to-launch-mumbai-london-stansted-service/
What is this AI's obsession with London Stansted. Is there that much unique traffic to this area of London. They could have tried to add more flights to LHR, especially with Jet's collapse. |
They cant get slots at LHR. So they go to Stansted. I believe at one point both Jet and AI got night departure from LHR for free to do LHR-ATQ/AMD (under new route offerings or what ever), but they lost those slots when they closed the routes. Now China is all the rage at LHR and India is not getting anything. I think BOM-STN will do just fine because tourists and business people are going to central London so what difference does it make which of the three you land at. You get on a train anyway. STN-ATQ is tougher, IMHO. Sikhs live in and around LHR and trekking to STN may not be popular (I am assuming that LON-ATQ is more of a VFR route than business/tourist). |
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| Caliguy wrote: | | iah87 wrote: | https://www.eturbonews.com/537460/air-india-to-launch-mumbai-london-stansted-service/
What is this AI's obsession with London Stansted. Is there that much unique traffic to this area of London. They could have tried to add more flights to LHR, especially with Jet's collapse. |
They cant get slots at LHR. So they go to Stansted. I believe at one point both Jet and AI got night departure from LHR for free to do LHR-ATQ/AMD (under new route offerings or what ever), but they lost those slots when they closed the routes. Now China is all the rage at LHR and India is not getting anything. I think BOM-STN will do just fine because tourists and business people are going to central London so what difference does it make which of the three you land at. You get on a train anyway. STN-ATQ is tougher, IMHO. Sikhs live in and around LHR and trekking to STN may not be popular (I am assuming that LON-ATQ is more of a VFR route than business/tourist). |
My cousin flew STN-ATQ a few weeks ago and the flight was sold out. Most of the passengers were from around West Midlands (Birmingham, Wolverhampton, Coventry).
Yes full doesnt mean it's making money but AI is never worried about that. Also shows passengers are willing to drive a bit further here to avoid connecting in Delhi.
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