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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Some of their new routes look like desperate measures to keep planes in the air, no matter what the cost.

Vijayawada -Singapore? Seriously?


Why not. Vijayawada airport is the airport for the capital of Andhra Pradesh and Vijayawada Guntur catchment area is sufficient for a twice weekly (if not more) Singapore service. When smaller cities in Kerala have daily service to Singapore why not Vijayawada.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2018 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

6E starting DEL-KUL and BLR-KUL daily flights.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2018 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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6E starting DEL-KUL and BLR-KUL daily flights.

Once again, our Ameya Sir has a nice write-up on his website:
https://networkthoughts.com/2018/09/26/indigo-takes-the-battle-home-to-airasia-launches-kuala-lumpur/
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2018 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Indigo has added a new A320NEO to the fleet today, as VT-IZA.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2018 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Indigo has added a new A320NEO to the fleet today, as VT-IVV.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2018 10:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sumantra wrote:
justbala wrote:
6E starting DEL-KUL and BLR-KUL daily flights.

Once again, our Ameya Sir has a nice write-up on his website:
https://networkthoughts.com/2018/09/26/indigo-takes-the-battle-home-to-airasia-launches-kuala-lumpur/
Cheers, Sumantra.


Haha... thanks I came to post this link and saw it already posted.
I am keenly watching this route. Having known both the airlines closely, it will be an interesting battle.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2018 6:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

IndiGo further expands Middle Eastern network in W18

IndiGo in winter 2018/19 season introduces additional 3 Middle Eastern routes, as the airline expands service to Dubai and Kuwait City.
Planned new routes include the following.

Ahmedabad – Kuwait City
eff 02NOV18 3 weekly
6E1753 AMD0830 – 0940KWI 320 257
6E1754 KWI1040 – 1650AMD 320 257

Amritsar – Dubai
eff 28OCT18 1 daily
6E047 ATQ0240 – 0445DXB 320 D
6E048 DXB0545 – 1050ATQ 320 D

Kochi – Kuwait City
eff 01NOV18 1 daily
6E1757 COK2250 – 0200+1KWI 320 D
6E1758 KWI0250 – 1025COK 320 D

Previously reported new routes for the Middle East:
Ahmedabad – Doha eff 01OCT18 1 daily
Ahmedabad – Muscat eff 01NOV18 4 weekly
Chennai – Kuwait City eff 15OCT18 1 daily
Kochi – Abu Dhabi eff 15OCT18 1 daily
Kozhikode – Abu Dhabi eff 15OCT18 1 daily (CCJ departure from 16OCT18)
Thiruvananthapuram – Doha eff 01OCT18 1 daily


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Indigo has added a new A320NEO to the fleet today, as VT-IZC.
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Indigo has added a new A320NEO to the fleet today, as VT-IVS.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Indigo launching DEL-HKT daily flight.

In response to Go Air?
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Indigo launching DEL-HKT daily flight.

In response to Go Air?


6E also launches BOM/DEL/COK - MLE
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Indigo has added a new A320NEO to the fleet today, as VT-IZB.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In case people on the forum have not noticed, here is out Ameya Sir's delightful article on CNBC18:
https://www.cnbctv18.com/aviation/this-strategy-of-indigo-to-beat-competitors-has-not-got-much-attention-1040531.htm
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How does 6E expect to fill GAU-COK and GAU-ATQ! They launch these in the coming months.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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How does 6E expect to fill GAU-COK and GAU-ATQ! They launch these in the coming months.


They seem desperate to keep their 100 odd A320s in the air, at any cost.

Their thinking seems to be on the lines of 'keep the fares low and you'll get bums on seats irrespective of the route'.

And it seems to be working. Their flights are almost always full and they are running profitably.
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I understand the tactic. But my opinion is that we still have many more routes that would rank above those. 6E doesn't serve Rajkot, Bhopal, Jamnagar, Diu, Bhavnagar, Leh, Nashik, Jodhpur, Jaisalmer and some more NE destinations. There is potential to connect each of the above with metros (upside of connecting potential) before launching GAU-ATQ! The RASK on the route would be very low. I do not expect more than 50 pax per day on the route, maybe 70 including NE connections.
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Rajkot, Bhopal, Jamnagar, Diu, Bhavnagar, Leh, Nashik, Jodhpur, Jaisalmer and some more NE destinations. There is potential to connect each of the above with metros (upside of connecting potential) before launching GAU-ATQ!
Two separate points, here. One is as our Ameya Sir has written, 6E is dumping capacity on routes to obliterate competition, which they can afford for some time at least, as long as they are not doing that badly (though redness is approaching them as well).
Second, some of these destinations are those which 6E has clearly stayed off. the destinations are low-yield. BHO, for instance. GAU is high-yield, and hence, may pick up connecting traffic to offset some of the disadvantages. ATQ has a mixed clientele, and connections may get it to work, given 6E's low cost structure. JSA is high-yield, but seasonal. 6E likes to have a strong base with multiple flights a day to sustain it, which include high yield destinations, and others which they have to manage to, to garner favourable points.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 12:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

any idea if they are using their A320s or ATR on this route

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 12:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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any idea if they are using their A320s or ATR on this route
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Which one, Aseem? The choice of the planned Allahabad seems a bit strange to me. The city can barely sustain an Alliance Air AT7-6 at the Bamrauli Air base's tiny civilian conclave that has manual luggage loading and unloading. Bamrauli is also far from the city.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 3:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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any idea if they are using their A320s or ATR on this route
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Which one, Aseem? The choice of the planned Allahabad seems a bit strange to me. The city can barely sustain an Alliance Air AT7-6 at the Bamrauli Air base's tiny civilian conclave that has manual luggage loading and unloading. Bamrauli is also far from the city.
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that's the question I am asking! Smile This has been the case with Allahabad ever since. Seems the city is destined to stay like that.

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Wide-bodied aircraft are an aspiration, we have talked to manufacturers. We are looking at A330neo and Boeing 787, Chief Commercial Officer Willy Boulter told Reuters in Abu Dhabi, declining to go into details.

In early 2019, IndiGo plans to start flights to London with an Airbus A321 aircraft stopping at a mid-point that is yet to be selected, he said. Other international destinations for launch include Kuala Lumpur and Phuket, Thailand, in November.

The first batch of Airbus A321neo aircraft with 222 seats will be delivered next month, he said.


https://www.thehindubusinessline.com/economy/logistics/indigo-eyes-wide-bodied-aircraft-from-airbus-boeing-willy-boulter/article25220317.ece
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IndiGo adds new Thailand / Maldives routes from Nov 2018

IndiGo last week unveiled additional international route launch, covering The Maldives and Thailand.
Planned new routes from November 2018 includes the following.

Bangalore – Male eff 15NOV18 2 weekly
6E1778 BLR1340 – 1510MLE 320 14
6E1779 MLE0835 – 1100BLR 320 14

Delhi – Phuket eff 23NOV18 6 weekly
6E1763 DEL0100 – 0640GJT 320 x3
6E1764 HKT0740 – 1035DEL 320 x3

Kochi – Male eff 15NOV18 1 daily
6E1795 COK0620 – 0735MLE 320 D
6E1782 MLE1610 – 1830COK 320 D

Mumbai – Male eff 16NOV18 5 weekly
6E1783 BOM1320 – 1510MLE 320 x14
6E1785 MLE0835 – 1220BOM 320 x14


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IndiGo adds Hong Kong service from Dec 2018

IndiGo in winter 2018/19 season continues to expand international service, as Bangalore – Hong Kong route joins the latest roaster of new routes.

From 11DEC18, Airbus A320 aircraft will operate this route 7 weekly.

6E1771 BLR0445 – 1245HKG 320 2
6E1773 BLR2340 – 0745+1HKG 320 x2

6E1774 HKG0845 – 1150BLR 320 2
6E1774 HKG0845 – 1245BLR 320 x23
6E1772 HKG1400 – 1800BLR 320 2


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https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/indigo-to-dgca-remove-route-curbs-on-a320-neo-planes/articleshow/66309420.cms

IndiGo to DGCA: Remove route curbs on A320 Neo planes

Oct 22, 2018

IndiGo has asked the aviation regulator to remove restrictions on routes where its Pratt & Whitney engine-powered Airbus A320 Neo aircraft can fly and enable it to operate this plane on longer sectors. The Directorate General of Civil Aviation (DGCA) has so far not allowed A320 Neos with PW engines to be flown on routes where they are more than an hour away from a nearest airport at any point during the journey, due to the snags in Pratt engines for this popular aircraft.

As a result, the PW-powered A320 Neos with Indian carriers — IndiGo and GoAir — do not have “extended diversion time operations” (EDTO, which earlier used to be extended range operations or ETOPS) clearance. “This clearance is required for aircraft with two or more engines to operate routes where the nearest suitable airport to make an emergency landing or divert to is more than an 60 minutes away at any point during the origin-destination journey. The PW-powered Neos in India have to fly on routes where an alternate landing airport is within 60 minutes away during their entire journey,” explained a regulatory official.

European and American aviation regulators had given extended range clearance to PW engines for the A320 Neo family in last two years. According to PW, its A320 Neo engine “has been granted 180 minute ETOPS eligibility by the European Aviation Safety Agency…. The ETOPS certification sets the maximum allowed amount of single-engine flying time that an aircraft can be from the nearest suitable airport.”

Now, IndiGo has sought EDTO clearance for the Neos as it prepares to make make use of the extended range of these planes to fly them to farther places.

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https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/indigo-to-dgca-remove-route-curbs-on-a320-neo-planes/articleshow/66309420.cms

IndiGo to DGCA: Remove route curbs on A320 Neo planes

Oct 22, 2018

IndiGo has asked the aviation regulator to remove restrictions on routes where its Pratt & Whitney engine-powered Airbus A320 Neo aircraft can fly and enable it to operate this plane on longer sectors. The Directorate General of Civil Aviation (DGCA) has so far not allowed A320 Neos with PW engines to be flown on routes where they are more than an hour away from a nearest airport at any point during the journey, due to the snags in Pratt engines for this popular aircraft.

As a result, the PW-powered A320 Neos with Indian carriers — IndiGo and GoAir — do not have “extended diversion time operations” (EDTO, which earlier used to be extended range operations or ETOPS) clearance. “This clearance is required for aircraft with two or more engines to operate routes where the nearest suitable airport to make an emergency landing or divert to is more than an 60 minutes away at any point during the origin-destination journey. The PW-powered Neos in India have to fly on routes where an alternate landing airport is within 60 minutes away during their entire journey,” explained a regulatory official.

European and American aviation regulators had given extended range clearance to PW engines for the A320 Neo family in last two years. According to PW, its A320 Neo engine “has been granted 180 minute ETOPS eligibility by the European Aviation Safety Agency…. The ETOPS certification sets the maximum allowed amount of single-engine flying time that an aircraft can be from the nearest suitable airport.”

Now, IndiGo has sought EDTO clearance for the Neos as it prepares to make make use of the extended range of these planes to fly them to farther places.


quite naturally there are more airports in US and Airbus where A320 can land along the route....that may not be case in India... let DGCA decide on this matter.

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Indigo has added a new A320NEO to the fleet today, as VT-IZD.
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https://finance.yahoo.com/news/doubling-down-indigo-airline-expand-075403905.html

Indigo declared a rare loss for the latest quarter, but still will expand by 30% just to drive competitors further into a hole and to maintain/increase market share. Currently no Indian carrier is healthy, all are bleeding cash, GOI must take a look at the capacity dumping to preserve some competition.
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https://finance.yahoo.com/news/doubling-down-indigo-airline-expand-075403905.html

Indigo declared a rare loss for the latest quarter, but still will expand by 30% just to drive competitors further into a hole and to maintain/increase market share. Currently no Indian carrier is healthy, all are bleeding cash, GOI must take a look at the capacity dumping to preserve some competition.


I wonder of their acquisition of ATRs and the foray into 'udaan' routes has anything to do with it.

They were doing ok as long as they were flying only the A320s.
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https://www.telegraphindia.com/business/indigo-to-expand-capacity-30-despite-q2-loss/cid/1672804

IndiGo to expand capacity 30% despite Q2 loss

28.10.18

IndiGo, the country’s largest domestic airline, will add 30 per cent capacity this financial year to maintain dominance of the world’s fastest growing aviation market, although its parent company has just recorded its first quarterly loss since listing.

The clear market leader with 189 planes and a 43 per cent share is unwilling to cede ground to rivals such as Jet Airways and SpiceJet, chief commercial officer Willy Boulter said.

“We are keen to protect our market share,” he said in an interview.

The airline has said it plans to add to its fleet of Airbus SE A320neos and ATR 72 turboprops at a rate of around six planes a month.

The carrier also has an “aspiration” to buy wide-body jets for long-haul international flights at a later date, but for now is focused on adding more short-haul international flights to boost revenues, Boulter said.

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Indigo has added two new A320NEOs to the fleet today, as VT-IZE & VT-IVT.
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https://www.telegraphindia.com/business/indigo-to-expand-capacity-30-despite-q2-loss/cid/1672804

IndiGo to expand capacity 30% despite Q2 loss

28.10.18

IndiGo, the country’s largest domestic airline, will add 30 per cent capacity this financial year to maintain dominance of the world’s fastest growing aviation market, although its parent company has just recorded its first quarterly loss since listing.

The clear market leader with 189 planes and a 43 per cent share is unwilling to cede ground to rivals such as Jet Airways and SpiceJet, chief commercial officer Willy Boulter said.

“We are keen to protect our market share,” he said in an interview.

The airline has said it plans to add to its fleet of Airbus SE A320neos and ATR 72 turboprops at a rate of around six planes a month.

The carrier also has an “aspiration” to buy wide-body jets for long-haul international flights at a later date, but for now is focused on adding more short-haul international flights to boost revenues, Boulter said.


Does this make any sense to anyone? So Indigo's goal is to continuously add seats, keep fares well below cost and bleed the market. Is there any aviation market like this? While I almost never point to china, I have to say their restrictions plus helping their airlines ended up being a better approach then India's. Plus it forced airlines to hub all across China (I know how strongly people feel about hubs outside of BOM/DEL).
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https://www.telegraphindia.com/business/indigo-to-expand-capacity-30-despite-q2-loss/cid/1672804

IndiGo to expand capacity 30% despite Q2 loss

28.10.18

IndiGo, the country’s largest domestic airline, will add 30 per cent capacity this financial year to maintain dominance of the world’s fastest growing aviation market, although its parent company has just recorded its first quarterly loss since listing.

The clear market leader with 189 planes and a 43 per cent share is unwilling to cede ground to rivals such as Jet Airways and SpiceJet, chief commercial officer Willy Boulter said.

“We are keen to protect our market share,” he said in an interview.

The airline has said it plans to add to its fleet of Airbus SE A320neos and ATR 72 turboprops at a rate of around six planes a month.

The carrier also has an “aspiration” to buy wide-body jets for long-haul international flights at a later date, but for now is focused on adding more short-haul international flights to boost revenues, Boulter said.


Does this make any sense to anyone? So Indigo's goal is to continuously add seats, keep fares well below cost and bleed the market. Is there any aviation market like this? While I almost never point to china, I have to say their restrictions plus helping their airlines ended up being a better approach then India's. Plus it forced airlines to hub all across China (I know how strongly people feel about hubs outside of BOM/DEL).



Definitely does not make any sense when they mirror flights, dump capacity and sell tickets at or below cost. As I have always been saying Jet's troubles are caused by Indigo, among other issues. Even AI struggles domestically although they do have a captive market in GOI employees on government business have to choose AI if it is available.

And Spice Jet had to lease back as Indigo has taken away or mirrored many routes that Spice started.
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I agree. Doesn't speak of innovative mindset of the management. Just pure aggression. If they are of the habit of doing their homework well, they'll pick up new markets, routes and timings. Hope it is not a beginning of the down-slide or some course correction.

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https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news/72365-indigo-delays-maiden-intl-route-from-vijayawada

IndiGo delays maiden int'l route from Vijayawada

31.10.2018

IndiGo has delayed the launch of the maiden international service from Vijayawada in eastern India, to Singapore Changi, PTI newswire has reported.
Previously planned to debut on October 25, the flights are now not expected to commence before December.

The Indian LCC said it was yet to finalise the details of its schedule between Vijayawada and Singapore.

Flights are due to operate 2x weekly onboard A320-200 equipment.

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https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/industry/transportation/airlines-/-aviation/short-of-pilots-indigo-asks-atr-to-defer-delivery/articleshow/66438862.cms

Short of pilots, IndiGo asks ATR to defer delivery

Oct 31, 2018

IndiGo has asked aircraft manufacturer ATR to defer deliveries of its turboprop planes due to a shortage of pilots, said two people aware of the development, the first such postponement by the airline.

India’s biggest airline by market share signed a pact for 50 ATR 72-600 planes last year. It had received 12 planes as of September and was supposed to get 20 by January.

“The airline was supposed to get the deliveries at the rate of one and two every alternate month,” said one of the people. “They will be taking much less now.” The person didn’t say how many planes IndiGo plans to take now. An IndiGo spokesperson said the airline does not “comment on any speculative news” but said aircraft delivery schedules are “often subject to change.”

A senior IndiGo executive confirmed the airline faces a shortage of pilots for ATR planes, but didn’t comment on whether it is looking at deferring deliveries. He insisted on anonymity. A spokesperson at ATR didn’t respond to queries till press time.

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Indigo has added a new A320NEO to the fleet today, as VT-IZG.
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https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/industry/transportation/airlines-/-aviation/indigo-upgrades-125-orders-of-a320neo-for-a-bigger-model/articleshow/66564399.cms

IndiGo upgrades 125 orders of A320neo for a bigger model

Nov 10, 2018

Airbus SE’s latest monthly order tally signaled a big change for India’s IndiGo. The planemaker’s biggest customer for the A320neo is upgrading 125 of its existing orders for the narrowbody’s bigger sister model.

Indigo, one of the few Indian carriers with enough cash to aggressively expand, has been mapping out a way to build a long-haul, low-cost business taking passengers from places like New Delhi to London, with a stop in, say, Istanbul. It’s been weighing whether to place an order for Airbus’s A330neo or Boeing Co.’s 787 wide-bodies, but the bigger narrowbodies it just converted to could help satisfy that requirement -- especially if the carrier opts to take the longer-range A321 variant.

IndiGo, operated by InterGlobe Aviation Ltd., last month poured cold water on the prospects of buying twin-aisle jets, saying that such a purchase “remains more of an aspiration than a plan.” The airline, based near New Delhi, has ordered 430 A320neo family jets, and is due to take its first A321neo later this month.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

won't it be better to go for twin-aisle aircraft for LHR routes considering landing fees remains the same (presuming) and slots remain restricted?

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 7:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Indigo has added a new A320NEO to the fleet today, as VT-IZH.
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https://www.azernews.az/region/140881.html

Indigo to enter Georgian aviation market in 2019

14 November 2018

Indigo plans to launch flights between India and Georgia starting from February 2019, announces TAV Georgia, the sole operator of Tbilisi and Batumi International Airports, agenda.ge reports.

Daily flights on the route Delhi-Tbilisi will be performed by Airbus 321 type aircraft.

"A second meeting was held at Tbilisi International Airport with TAV Georgia today. Operational details regarding the flights were discussed. The largest airline of India first showed its interest in the Georgian aviation market back in the summer of 2018. The meetings with the Georgian side in August were organised by TAV Holding", read the press release published by TAV Georgia.

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