Airliners-India.com Forum Index Airliners-India.com
Flickr Group & Facebook
 
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

World’s first windowless plane set to take off

 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Airliners-India.com Forum Index -> International
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Spiderguy252
Member


Joined: 10 Aug 2007
Posts: 4259
Location: Indian Ocean

PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 10:59 am    Post subject: World’s first windowless plane set to take off Reply with quote

Quote:
LONDON : The world's first windowless plane is all set to take off. A British developer will soon test a windowless plane that allows passengers to see what's going on outside.

The windows would be replaced by full-length screens allowing constant views of the sky and space outside.

Passengers would be able to switch the view on and off according to their preference, identify prominent sights by tapping the screen or just surf the internet.

Scientists and engineers at Centre for Process Innovation (CPI) called it "the windowless cabin with a view".

They said, "The days of glimpsing the world through a tiny plastic porthole when you fly are soon to be a thing of the past; future aircrafts will offer a crystal clear panoramic view without any windows at all. We are developing ultra-flexible, high-definition display technologies that could line the interior walls of cabins and display live footage from external cameras."


A concept view of the passenger section of the windowless plane. (Photo courtesy Centre for Process Innovation)

As well as surrounding passengers with a panoramic view of the skies, this interactive 'digital wallpaper' will allow travellers to personalize their environment providing options to adjust lighting or change the view. It could also be used as a multimedia device for in-flight entertainment.

Using OLED (Organic Light Emitting Diode) technology, the thin, bendable and lightweight displays screens will blend with the fuselage and surfaces such as seatbacks optimizing space and reducing the weight of the aircraft.

Weight is a constant issue on any aircraft with over 80% of the fully laden weight being the aircraft itself along with its fuel. For every 1% reduction in weight the approximate fuel saving is 0.75%.

They added, "If you save weight, you save fuel. And less fuel means less CO2 emissions into the atmosphere and lower operational cost. Windows currently require meticulous construction to ensure that their structure maintains cabin pressure and resists cracking at 35,000 feet. Fully integrated OLED technology is still in development across the globe."

Simon Ogier, research and development manager at CPI, said, "Our role is to turn innovative technology concepts such as OLED displays into manufactured products."

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/europe/Worlds-first-windowless-plane-set-to-take-off/articleshow/44943896.cms


Looks pretty good, eh?
_________________
Yeah.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
The_Goat
Member


Joined: 03 Mar 2007
Posts: 3260
Location: South of France

PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So basically, you get to see what's around you through television, and not through the windows.

It sounds like a ridiculous idea to me. Why not just make the windows bigger, or better still, make the entire airplane out of glass/perspex?

If that TV develops snags, the passengers have to travel in a windowless white tube.
_________________
I don't know which is the more pampered bunch : AI's widebodies (the aunties) or Jet's widebodies (the planes).
-Jasepl
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Nimish
Member


Joined: 16 Dec 2006
Posts: 9757
Location: Bangalore, India

PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm missing the fundamental premise. Do windows add costs? Add weight? Add drag? What is the problem with the current state of windows?
_________________
We miss you Nalini!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Yahoo Messenger MSN Messenger
justbala
Member


Joined: 11 Jan 2007
Posts: 1898
Location: Bangalore

PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nimish wrote:
I'm missing the fundamental premise. Do windows add costs? Add weight? Add drag? What is the problem with the current state of windows?


IIRC,the strength of the fuselage is inversely dependant on the size of the windows built in. One of the reasons why the Concord had teeny tiny windows.

So if windows were removed altogether,the aircraft would be sturdier and capable of far greater speeds.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
The_Goat
Member


Joined: 03 Mar 2007
Posts: 3260
Location: South of France

PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

justbala wrote:


IIRC,the strength of the fuselage is inversely dependant on the size of the windows built in. One of the reasons why the Concord had teeny tiny windows.

So if windows were removed altogether,the aircraft would be sturdier and capable of far greater speeds.


The Concorde's windows were small because of a peculiar problem that existed with its fuselage. After each flight, the diameter of the Concorde's fuselage would expand by about 2ft, due to the heat caused by the air friction at supersonic speeds sustained for about two three hours. Having larger windows would have increased the chances of cracks with repeated expansion and contraction, leading to the 'Comet' phenomenon.

This is not a problem at subsonic speeds, and jet planes are not going to be flying any faster than they already are. So there is really no need to do away with windows.
_________________
I don't know which is the more pampered bunch : AI's widebodies (the aunties) or Jet's widebodies (the planes).
-Jasepl
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
5Patel
Member


Joined: 02 Oct 2014
Posts: 117

PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well at least freighter conversions would be easier in a windowless aircraft.

As for me and several of us Indians used to traveling in jam packed Mumbai locals and Delhi Metro, we would prefer traveling standing on domestic routes than traveling in a simulator. I guess planes without seats would be more fuel efficient than planes without windows.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
jbalonso777
Member


Joined: 05 Jul 2012
Posts: 1501
Location: Never, never land

PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Makes you wonder - if the B787 is the most efficient bird (bar the issues, I'm talking actual performance) in the skies today with the largest windows, what would it have achieved with smaller windows?

(A380 has small windows, they aren't huge Razz )

But then again, wouldn't so many TV screens be inclined towards hugely-heavy bird?
_________________
http://www.youtube.com/c/JishnuBasu777
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Airliners-India.com Forum Index -> International All times are GMT + 5.5 Hours
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


Powered by phpBB © phpBB Group. Hosted by phpBB.BizHat.com