Airliners-India Flickr Group & Facebook    FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  Navi Mumbai int'l airport to be ready by 2012          Airliners-India Forum Index -> Civil Aviation View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message Akshay Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 315 Location: Mumbai Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 4:08 pm    Post subject: Navi Mumbai int'l airport to be ready by 2012 The first phase of Mumbai's proposed new greenfield international airport to be built at Navi Mumbai will be complete by 2012, at an estimated cost of Rs 4,200 crore. The project will be implemented in four phases. Navi Mumbai International Airport will be situated on National Highway 4B, 25 km away from the existing Sahar International Airport. The airport will be executed on a public-private-partnership model basis, by forming a Special Purpose Vehicle (SPV) in which the City and Industrial Development Corporation (CIDCO) of Maharashtra and the Airports Authority of India (AAI), will hold equity of around 26 per cent while the rest will be held by private developers. The airport is expected to absorb 10 million passengers per annum in its first year of operation in 2013, twice the number of by 2020 and ultimately 40 million passengers per annum by 2030. Link Here Akshay Back to top AKLDELNonstop Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 1066 Location: Auckland Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 4:11 pm    Post subject: The contract for this airport should be given to someone other than the GVK consortium. Competition can only keep both of them on their toes and improve the situation for passengers. Cheers _________________ Geniuses are always misunderstood in their lifetimes. Back to top Akshay Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 315 Location: Mumbai Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 4:19 pm    Post subject: AKLDELNonstop wrote: The contract for this airport should be given to someone other than the GVK consortium. Competition can only keep both of them on their toes and improve the situation for passengers. Cheers True. Besides, revamping the existing airport will keep them busy for some years to come. Has the work even started yet? BTW, in my earlier post, why do the words"link here" appear in Blue when i didn't do anything to it? Back to top HAWK21M Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 8132 Location: Mumbai, INDIA Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 4:21 pm    Post subject: Finally. How do they plan to Connect the Two Airports Directly,or is there such plan. regds MEL _________________ Think of the Brighter side !!! Back to top AKLDELNonstop Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 1066 Location: Auckland Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 4:29 pm    Post subject: Akshay, Most of the times URL links are automatically detected and highlighted. MEL, Is any GoI venture ever planned? I guess it will be a while before we hear anything concrete. Let them first successfully finish oops sorry start the AI-IC merger. Cheers _________________ Geniuses are always misunderstood in their lifetimes. Back to top Akshay Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 315 Location: Mumbai Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 4:30 pm    Post subject: HAWK21M wrote: How do they plan to Connect the Two Airports Directly,or is there such plan. regds MEL Ideally, There should be a connection between the two airports, that too something which will offer high speeds. The current road link takes about 1.5 to two hours between the two places. Akshay Back to top AKLDELNonstop Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 1066 Location: Auckland Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 4:36 pm    Post subject: Akshay wrote: Ideally, There should be a connection between the two airports, that too something which will offer high speeds. The current road link takes about 1.5 to two hours between the two places. How about a high speed Maglev connection a la Shanghai. LOL i am dreaming here. Cheers _________________ Geniuses are always misunderstood in their lifetimes. Back to top the_380 Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 2329 Location: Mumbai, India Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 7:32 pm    Post subject: Akshay wrote: HAWK21M wrote: How do they plan to Connect the Two Airports Directly,or is there such plan. regds MEL Ideally, There should be a connection between the two airports, that too something which will offer high speeds. The current road link takes about 1.5 to two hours between the two places. Akshay AFAIK I remember hearing about high speed trains between the airports. Now i dunno how much of truth is there in those words but lets see. BTW things are going at a good pace at the current airport. So if they're plannin to make better runways and terminal bldgs here then what will happen to this airport if that becomes functional? Or are we like the Dubai and Qatar govts? a newly expanded airport just for a few years? _________________ http://www.myspace.com/avsatsworld A Walt Disney and 20th Century Fox Audio Producer!!! Back to top JumboJet Member Joined: 20 Dec 2006 Posts: 492 Location: Mind Over Matter Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 12:36 am    Post subject: Is there any realism to the new airport are is this just a mere real estate stunt _________________ I love the smell of Jet Fuel in the morning. Back to top the_380 Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 2329 Location: Mumbai, India Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 12:39 am    Post subject: Frankly if you ask me how much truth is there in this... I doubt. This plan has again just been brought out from the fridge where it was lying for over so many years. Notice the controversies that will arise if work actually start JumboJet wrote: Is there any realism to the new airport are is this just a mere real estate stunt _________________ http://www.myspace.com/avsatsworld A Walt Disney and 20th Century Fox Audio Producer!!! Back to top sammyk Member Joined: 20 Dec 2006 Posts: 2719 Location: Austin, TX Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 4:37 am    Post subject: AKLDELNonstop wrote: The contract for this airport should be given to someone other than the GVK consortium. Competition can only keep both of them on their toes and improve the situation for passengers. Cheers Since GVK will be running the current Mumbai airport then they should be given the first right of refusal to run any new airport in the area otherwise you are taking away their revenue. That is the only fair thing to do. Otherwise what was the point of giving control of BOM to a private company? Back to top AKLDELNonstop Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 1066 Location: Auckland Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 5:23 am    Post subject: sammyk wrote: Since GVK will be running the current Mumbai airport then they should be given the first right of refusal to run any new airport in the area otherwise you are taking away their revenue. That is the only fair thing to do. Otherwise what was the point of giving control of BOM to a private company? Well no you are not really taking away their revenue because the operator at Navi Mumbai would have to start from the beginning as opposed to the advantage that GVK already has. Also the main reason why privatisation works well is because of competition. You give a company monopoly and see how the promised services change. Competition is infact absolutely necessary. And BOM can easily support two airports in the future. Cheers _________________ Geniuses are always misunderstood in their lifetimes. Back to top ssbmat Member Joined: 20 Dec 2006 Posts: 1710 Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 8:26 am    Post subject: There have been so many false starts and promises about this proposed Greenfield airport at BOM that I will believe it only when they inaugurate it! It takes an incredible resolve with citizens, industry and government all firmly behind this to make it happen. At this point, even if they manage to prevent the politicians from doing agitations over the illegal shanties surrounding Sahar, it is a great victory. But sadly, as it seems in BOM these days, nobody cares..they are just hell-bent on "exploiting the golden goose " that contributes over 40K Cr to the national exchequer by Direct -taxes alone. Even though I am not a Mumbaikar, I truly feel sorry for the city. Back to top saurabhm_101 Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 529 Location: Mumbai Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 11:07 am    Post subject: You seriously believe what they are sayin about completing it by 2012? haha joke of the year.. i duno how many years its been since they have been building that bridge om the water forgot its name.. but still! no way will it be completed... now its been declared... no the problems will be created by so many people... some NGOs will say that there is wild life or trees or whatever there and it cant be cut off... ppl around will say no there will be sound pollution.. blah blah! regards _________________ Flying High.... You and Me...! Back to top JumboJet Member Joined: 20 Dec 2006 Posts: 492 Location: Mind Over Matter Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 12:12 pm    Post subject: saurabhm_101 wrote: You seriously believe what they are sayin about completing it by 2012? haha joke of the year.. i duno how many years its been since they have been building that bridge om the water forgot its name.. but still! no way will it be completed... now its been declared... no the problems will be created by so many people... some NGOs will say that there is wild life or trees or whatever there and it cant be cut off... ppl around will say no there will be sound pollution.. blah blah! regards Saurabhm is right. When a bridge takes eternity, an airport may take forever. I just guess that this is nothing but a real estate stunt after all, because i remember attending a seminar wherein they were planning to have an airport at Navi Mumbai and the other one at Hinjewadi in Poona. Now if you look at the geographical location, both the new airports would be next to each other just a diff of some nautical miles. The plan was not even considered in the seminar and surprisingly enough the govt says that the ICAO has cleared the proposal..... God only knows what these political jokers are planning.... Just imagine, we cannot relocate something about 50000 people and make a second runway at the existing place, but go ahead and build a new airport.....Ironical and makes me feel that are we such great fools to burn our own house to get rid of a rat _________________ I love the smell of Jet Fuel in the morning. Back to top the_380 Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 2329 Location: Mumbai, India Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 12:32 pm    Post subject: Does anyone doubt the fact that the airport will be ready by 2012? Let me open a fact here: Years ago when the govt and CIDCO joined hands for building an airport here they decided over the current plot itself. And believe me within few days politicians like Sharad Pawar and many more purchased land from that plot. Now we all kno that if the want to build that airport there first govt will have to pay the prices those ministers ask for selling "their" land. Besides a lot or grass cutting will lead to bloody NGOs nonsense again. _________________ http://www.myspace.com/avsatsworld A Walt Disney and 20th Century Fox Audio Producer!!! Back to top AKLDELNonstop Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 1066 Location: Auckland Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 1:07 pm    Post subject: Saurabh, Are you referring to the Bandra-Worli Sealink? There was some problem with somestupid NGOs creating trouble. They probably paid a bunch of people some money to go along to their rally or whatever they organised. BTW they showed the construction on National Geographic. They probably got tired of waiting for it to be completed and showed it anyway. It should look pretty decent if/when completed. Cheers _________________ Geniuses are always misunderstood in their lifetimes. Back to top saurabhm_101 Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 529 Location: Mumbai Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 2:17 pm    Post subject: AKLDELNonstop wrote: Saurabh, Are you referring to the Bandra-Worli Sealink? There was some problem with somestupid NGOs creating trouble. They probably paid a bunch of people some money to go along to their rally or whatever they organised. BTW they showed the construction on National Geographic. They probably got tired of waiting for it to be completed and showed it anyway. It should look pretty decent if/when completed. Cheers yes thats it... the trouble they had was that the fishermen will lose business if the bridge was built because it was running through a very high density area of fish.. so they spent a bomb in changing its path... but even after that its still going at snails pace! about the airport, i feel they should go step by step instead of actually jumping and neglecting areas of more importance... Yes a new runway is important... but i think there is a need of parking bays too! so why not for now... build more parking bays in such a way that in the future wen another runway is built (hopefully) they can be connected easily! yes the problem of a terminal does come up... but they will be able to manage it! what do you'll think? regards...! _________________ Flying High.... You and Me...! Back to top HAWK21M Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 8132 Location: Mumbai, INDIA Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 2:43 pm    Post subject: Unless the connectivity between the Airports are good its no use. regds MEL _________________ Think of the Brighter side !!! Back to top AKLDELNonstop Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 1066 Location: Auckland Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 4:03 pm    Post subject: Why dont they give it to another consortium of private parties and build an airport on the sea like HKG. Surely, lack of funds isnt an issue here. Cheers _________________ Geniuses are always misunderstood in their lifetimes. Back to top JumboJet Member Joined: 20 Dec 2006 Posts: 492 Location: Mind Over Matter Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 4:50 pm    Post subject: AKLDELNonstop wrote: Why dont they give it to another consortium of private parties and build an airport on the sea like HKG. Surely, lack of funds isnt an issue here. Cheers IF funds is not an issue, what is _________________ I love the smell of Jet Fuel in the morning. Back to top the_380 Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 2329 Location: Mumbai, India Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 7:48 pm    Post subject: AKLDELNonstop wrote: Why dont they give it to another consortium of private parties and build an airport on the sea like HKG. Surely, lack of funds isnt an issue here. Cheers An airport on the sea is very expensive and a lot of geographical features have to match.. not so easy. Besides this will raise heavy problematic issues on sea life and blah blah blah. As Saurabh mentioned one Sea link cost so much time can't imagine an airport... My grandchildren would be taken by their children on whell chairs for the opening. Will def create hell lotta problems. As good as impossible. _________________ http://www.myspace.com/avsatsworld A Walt Disney and 20th Century Fox Audio Producer!!! Back to top AKLDELNonstop Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 1066 Location: Auckland Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 4:57 am    Post subject: JumboJet wrote: IF funds is not an issue, what is Remember Reliance wanted to build an airport. Well here's their chance and they are a fortune 500 company with yearly revenues of $18bn. Thats a hell lot of money mate. If Emaar in Dubai can build a wonderland with far less revenue I am sure reliance could do it. And throw the door open to foriegn investors as well and see how they come rushing for a project of this kind. Well I am not saying its easy, but I am saying that its possible. There is no such thing as a free lunch. Cheers _________________ Geniuses are always misunderstood in their lifetimes. Back to top JumboJet Member Joined: 20 Dec 2006 Posts: 492 Location: Mind Over Matter Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 10:53 am    Post subject: AKLDELNonstop wrote: JumboJet wrote: IF funds is not an issue, what is Remember Reliance wanted to build an airport. Well here's their chance and they are a fortune 500 company with yearly revenues of $18bn. Thats a hell lot of money mate. If Emaar in Dubai can build a wonderland with far less revenue I am sure reliance could do it. And throw the door open to foriegn investors as well and see how they come rushing for a project of this kind. Well I am not saying its easy, but I am saying that its possible. There is no such thing as a free lunch. Cheers You remind me that SALVATION IS FREE, because someone else paid for it Boss, whether its Reliance or someone else, what matters it that can we not upgrade the existing one and make it more viable rather than create un-necessary confusion over the deal of setting a new one up already. And just my two cents, is the new airport outside BMC limits, does this mean every time we are getting duty free allowance into the city limits, we are going to be charged with Octroi!!! And we talk of a borderless world, when we cannot even stop ourselves from paying petty amounts to get away with ease and comfort. _________________ I love the smell of Jet Fuel in the morning. Back to top AKLDELNonstop Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 1066 Location: Auckland Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 12:12 pm    Post subject: JJ, Two things. 1) I suggested the offshore airport ONLY because it seems expanding/upgrading the current airport is proving to be difficult given the slums etc. If it can be done then definitely its a good idea to revamp it. 2) About your territorial dispute, 12 nm out of Mumbai city into the Sea is still a part of Mumbai according to international law. So if the airport is built within 12 nautical miles from the coast you are still within India and Mumbai. Cheers _________________ Geniuses are always misunderstood in their lifetimes. Back to top HAWK21M Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 8132 Location: Mumbai, INDIA Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 3:25 pm    Post subject: I too def prefer the Reclamation on sea Airport option.But Environmentilists come in the picture here. Connectivity would have easier in this case. regds MEL _________________ Think of the Brighter side !!! Back to top aarbee Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 328 Location: WAS/AMD Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 9:44 pm    Post subject: HAWK21M wrote: I too def prefer the Reclamation on sea Airport option.But Environmentilists come in the picture here. Connectivity would have easier in this case. regds MEL Any details how they plan to connect northwestern suburbs, borivali et. al. to this navi numbai airport. I would think the best case scenario to go to new mumbai from that side is 1.5 hrs. (Has that decreased in recent times?) Back to top the_380 Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 2329 Location: Mumbai, India Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 9:48 pm    Post subject: aarbee wrote: HAWK21M wrote: I too def prefer the Reclamation on sea Airport option.But Environmentilists come in the picture here. Connectivity would have easier in this case. regds MEL Any details how they plan to connect northwestern suburbs, borivali et. al. to this navi numbai airport. I would think the best case scenario to go to new mumbai from that side is 1.5 hrs. (Has that decreased in recent times?) No it takes that much time only... One thing i would like to point out is that even KLIA is at quite a good distance from the main city but then the excellent roads + high speed train option sorts out the problem. If you gotta reach quickly use the train or else travel in those superb roads. Something like that must be done here also. But how much reality do I see in this airport actually being constructed _________________ http://www.myspace.com/avsatsworld A Walt Disney and 20th Century Fox Audio Producer!!! Back to top JumboJet Member Joined: 20 Dec 2006 Posts: 492 Location: Mind Over Matter Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 9:57 pm    Post subject: AKLDELNonstop wrote: JJ, Two things. 1) I suggested the offshore airport ONLY because it seems expanding/upgrading the current airport is proving to be difficult given the slums etc. If it can be done then definitely its a good idea to revamp it. 2) About your territorial dispute, 12 nm out of Mumbai city into the Sea is still a part of Mumbai according to international law. So if the airport is built within 12 nautical miles from the coast you are still within India and Mumbai. Cheers I rest my case. _________________ I love the smell of Jet Fuel in the morning. Back to top Akshay Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 315 Location: Mumbai Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 3:38 pm    Post subject: the_380 wrote: As Saurabh mentioned one Sea link cost so much time can't imagine an airport... My grandchildren would be taken by their children on whell chairs for the opening. Will def create hell lotta problems. As good as impossible. 380, I completely agree with you. They are taking a lot of time to complete the existing projects in the city. It would not be advisable to start new ones before the ongoing ones are completed. Akshay Back to top saurabhm_101 Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 529 Location: Mumbai Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 4:20 pm    Post subject: i think they 'started' work on 16 major bridges all across the city last sunday i think... lets see how that goes! cheers! _________________ Flying High.... You and Me...! Back to top the_380 Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 2329 Location: Mumbai, India Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 8:37 pm    Post subject: saurabhm_101 wrote: i think they 'started' work on 16 major bridges all across the city last sunday i think... lets see how that goes! cheers! Dude do you remember the Andheri bridge that was supposed to have malls below? How long that case went on then finally construction resumed but govt. didn't allow any shops under the flyover? I daily see roads dug up here... in fact these people remember to put pipes after the roads are made!!! _________________ http://www.myspace.com/avsatsworld A Walt Disney and 20th Century Fox Audio Producer!!! Back to top the_380 Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 2329 Location: Mumbai, India Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 1:04 pm    Post subject: Just made a road trip to Mira Road. There was some damn accident on Ghodbunder Road (leading to thane) and believe me traffic jam was right from Dahisar checknaka and took us nearly one and half hour to cross just from Dahisar checknaka and enter mira road... luckily no jam after that. now the point is one traffinc jam can make such a mess... imagine that airport over there where you have to pay toll thrice and on top of that if some accident like this then your screwed up. miss your flight thats it _________________ http://www.myspace.com/avsatsworld A Walt Disney and 20th Century Fox Audio Producer!!! Back to top HAWK21M Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 8132 Location: Mumbai, INDIA Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 8:41 pm    Post subject: All the more need for a Direct Express way connecting the Old & New terminals for things to work out. regds MEL _________________ Think of the Brighter side !!! 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