Airliners-India.com Flickr Group & Facebook    FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  First look at Air India's 787-8s - Part III Goto page 1, 2, 3  Next          Airliners-India.com Forum Index -> Civil Aviation View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message 747-237 Member Joined: 11 Jun 2007 Posts: 11347 Location: Gordon Gekko's Boardroom Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2013 11:20 pm    Post subject: First look at Air India's 787-8s - Part III Continued from Part II of this thread, which can be found here : First look at Air India's 787-8s - Part II http://airlinersindia.s4.bizhat.com/viewtopic.php?t=12632&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=360 Folks, as always, may I once again request that we stick to the debut of the Air India 787s in this thread. Thanks. _________________ 11000 posts (and counting) on Airliners-India. Back to top 747-237 Member Joined: 11 Jun 2007 Posts: 11347 Location: Gordon Gekko's Boardroom Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2013 11:22 pm    Post subject: Air India's earliest built 787, VT-ANA is up next for delivery. She is ready to go and should be the first 787 delivered to Air India in 2014. I am given to believe things at KPAE are pretty much shut for the holidays. _________________ 11000 posts (and counting) on Airliners-India. Back to top Karan69 Member Joined: 22 Dec 2006 Posts: 1334 Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2013 3:31 am    Post subject: Lot of irony in the first pic VT-ANA with Ana Karan Back to top sammyk Member Joined: 20 Dec 2006 Posts: 2719 Location: Austin, TX Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2013 12:14 am    Post subject: Nice to see this one ready to go. I remember seeing it parked next to the museum all alone and engine-less last year. Back to top sammyk Member Joined: 20 Dec 2006 Posts: 2719 Location: Austin, TX Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2013 12:37 am    Post subject: 747-237 wrote: Air India's earliest built 787, VT-ANA is up next for delivery. She is ready to go and should be the first 787 delivered to Air India in 2014. I am given to believe things at KPAE are pretty much shut for the holidays They are probably scrambling to make last minute deliveries!] Back to top jabeen100 Member Joined: 23 Dec 2013 Posts: 14 Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2013 12:33 pm    Post subject: It is nice look of India Air 747. Hope, Its services will also best for people. Back to top sukritmunjal Member Joined: 23 Jan 2013 Posts: 178 Location: FMO Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2013 12:43 pm    Post subject: jabeen100 wrote: It is nice look of India Air 747. Hope, Its services will also best for people. 747??? Please don't post something just for the sake of posting. Back to top 747-237 Member Joined: 11 Jun 2007 Posts: 11347 Location: Gordon Gekko's Boardroom Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2013 4:59 pm    Post subject: sukritmunjal wrote: Please don't post something just for the sake of posting. Thank you - those words are golden. The above individual is perhaps a spammer anyway. _________________ 11000 posts (and counting) on Airliners-India. Back to top abhijith16 Member Joined: 14 Sep 2010 Posts: 1575 Location: DOH/IXE/MEL Posted: Tue Dec 31, 2013 10:11 am    Post subject: 747-237 wrote: sukritmunjal wrote: Please don't post something just for the sake of posting. Thank you - those words are golden. The above individual is perhaps a spammer anyway. Uh, check the non-av turead. She's legit, She may have not known the difference, considering how both print and TV media in the country have so many inaccuracies. _________________ <a><img></a> Back to top The_Goat Member Joined: 03 Mar 2007 Posts: 3260 Location: South of France Posted: Tue Dec 31, 2013 6:08 pm    Post subject: abhijith16 wrote: 747-237 wrote: sukritmunjal wrote: Please don't post something just for the sake of posting. Thank you - those words are golden. The above individual is perhaps a spammer anyway. Uh, check the non-av turead. She's legit, She may have not known the difference, considering how both print and TV media in the country have so many inaccuracies. Maybe, but it should be unpardonable for a member of this forum not to know the difference between a 747 and a 787, particularly when both types can be found in India. Maybe an entrance exam should be in place. _________________ I don't know which is the more pampered bunch : AI's widebodies (the aunties) or Jet's widebodies (the planes). -Jasepl Back to top 747-237 Member Joined: 11 Jun 2007 Posts: 11347 Location: Gordon Gekko's Boardroom Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 11:28 pm    Post subject: VT-ANA had her first flight today. _________________ 11000 posts (and counting) on Airliners-India. Back to top HAWK21M Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 8132 Location: Mumbai, INDIA Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 4:28 pm    Post subject: Are the B787s operational at AI full time yet... _________________ Think of the Brighter side !!! Back to top 747-237 Member Joined: 11 Jun 2007 Posts: 11347 Location: Gordon Gekko's Boardroom Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 5:37 pm    Post subject: 747-237 wrote: VT-ANA had her first flight today. _________________ 11000 posts (and counting) on Airliners-India. Back to top sumantra Member Joined: 28 Oct 2007 Posts: 4685 Location: New Delhi Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 7:29 pm    Post subject: Deb, since you have been tracking there with amazing consistency: the `Early Build' frames of the AI B788s: to what standard are they being modified to? Among the five stages in your earlier informative post, are only the ones post LN65 the `true-blooded, true to projected B788 performance figures'? Thanks for all the data, and the images! Cheers, Sumantra. Back to top 747-237 Member Joined: 11 Jun 2007 Posts: 11347 Location: Gordon Gekko's Boardroom Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 9:51 pm    Post subject: sumantra wrote: the `Early Build' frames of the AI B788s: to what standard are they being modified to? http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/first-modified-787-returns-from-change-incorporation-in-texas-364989/ ....... extensive changes including wholesale replacement of its environmental control system air-conditioning packs and modification of ducting and baffling in the aircraft's cabin, as well as motor and fan changes related and related software. Further, modifications were made to the aircraft's flight control system hardware and software, changing out the outboard ailerons, outboard and inboard flaps and flaperons, as well as making changes to the elevator and rudder systems. The aircraft now features a new wiring configuration, along with the fully certified version of the updated electrical power distribution system that was changed after a November 2010 fire aboard test aircraft ZA002. sumantra wrote: Among the five stages in your earlier informative post, are only the ones post LN65 the `true-blooded, true to projected B788 performance figures'? During the "change incorporation" process (as above) airframes are configured to conform with the standards established by the type certification, hence they should all be identical. _________________ 11000 posts (and counting) on Airliners-India. Back to top sumantra Member Joined: 28 Oct 2007 Posts: 4685 Location: New Delhi Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 11:25 pm    Post subject: Thank you, Deb: so after proper `change incorporation', they will all be as the B788 was type-rated. So there will be no heavier, or range-restricted frames, right? Given your incredible talent in tracking every small change, how many of AI's B788s has been converted to the B788 type rating? I am sure you would have a time-table of the same, as well! Cheers, Sumantra. Back to top sammyk Member Joined: 20 Dec 2006 Posts: 2719 Location: Austin, TX Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 11:51 pm    Post subject: If I'm not mistaken, the earlier frames will still be heavier. Probably why they were rejected. Even modifications can't bring them up to par. Back to top 747-237 Member Joined: 11 Jun 2007 Posts: 11347 Location: Gordon Gekko's Boardroom Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 12:22 am    Post subject: sumantra wrote: So there will be no heavier, or range-restricted frames, right? sammyk wrote: If I'm not mistaken, the earlier frames will still be heavier. Probably why they were rejected. Even modifications can't bring them up to par. That is correct, there is a weight differential between early builds and newer builds, because Boeing's change incorporation process does not involve weight change, only type certification standards. sumantra wrote: how many of AI's B788s has been converted to the B788 type rating? All - every early build has undergone change incorporation. ANA/ANB/ANC are the earliest (and only) AI 787s still at Everett, and all have undergone change incorporation. With ANA's first flight a couple of days ago, ANC is the only one yet to take to the skies. ANB will likely be delivered next, followed by ANA; both this month. sumantra wrote: I am sure you would have a time-table of the same, as well! You, my friend, give me way too much credit than what is due . Sadly, I did not keep a track of the early builds coming out of the EMC (Everett Modification Center) after change incorporation. That being said, all are out now, and none will go in. _________________ 11000 posts (and counting) on Airliners-India. Back to top sumantra Member Joined: 28 Oct 2007 Posts: 4685 Location: New Delhi Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 8:55 am    Post subject: Thanks a lot, Deb for all these clarifications. I also wanted to ask about the ones AI has in service. For instance, the `connector': AND was experiencing payload-related exhaustion on the westbound return from Oz: have these also been sorted out, by the Boeing team at BOM? Thanks, Sumantra. Back to top 747-237 Member Joined: 11 Jun 2007 Posts: 11347 Location: Gordon Gekko's Boardroom Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 2:54 am    Post subject: sumantra wrote: I also wanted to ask about the ones AI has in service. For instance, the `connector': AND was experiencing payload-related exhaustion on the westbound return from Oz: have these also been sorted out, by the Boeing team at BOM? The Boeing team was to have taken care of these issues in BOM, but I an uncertain if the issues with AND in particular have been fixed. Sumantra, there are some "early build v/s late build" pictures for you in my Air India models thread . _________________ 11000 posts (and counting) on Airliners-India. Back to top sumantra Member Joined: 28 Oct 2007 Posts: 4685 Location: New Delhi Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 10:47 am    Post subject: 747-237 wrote: Sumantra, there are some "early build v/s late build" pictures for you in my Air India models thread . Yes, thank you, this is another thread that I enjoy, but do not contribute even an iota, to Cheers, Sumantra. Back to top 747-237 Member Joined: 11 Jun 2007 Posts: 11347 Location: Gordon Gekko's Boardroom Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 8:05 am    Post subject: Air India's 12th 787, VT-ANB, has been delivered today (01/31) at KPAE, and is on her way to DEL; ETA 1700IST (02/01). Here she is at the Everett Delivery Center, being delivered to AI earlier today. Back to top 747-237 Member Joined: 11 Jun 2007 Posts: 11347 Location: Gordon Gekko's Boardroom Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 9:01 am    Post subject: Air India earliest build 787, VT-ANA, has been ferried from KPAE to CHS today (02/06). There is a possibility that she might be delivered from CHS, though she is Everett built. _________________ 11000 posts (and counting) on Airliners-India. Back to top 747-237 Member Joined: 11 Jun 2007 Posts: 11347 Location: Gordon Gekko's Boardroom Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 9:33 pm    Post subject: The highlight (of India Aviation 2014, 12-16 March) will be Air India’s 13th Dreamliner 787 plane, which will fly directly from Boeing Co.’s factory in Seattle to Hyderabad, where aviation minister Ajit Singh and other dignitaries will take its delivery to mark the launch of the airshow, a second official who also did not want to be named said. http://www.livemint.com/Companies/ZxdlHvT71bvNYc6kRAxIpI/Emirates-plans-to-fly-in-Airbus-A380-for-Hyderabad-airshow.html _________________ 11000 posts (and counting) on Airliners-India. Back to top 747-237 Member Joined: 11 Jun 2007 Posts: 11347 Location: Gordon Gekko's Boardroom Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 5:04 pm    Post subject: 747-237 wrote: Air India earliest build 787, VT-ANA, has been ferried from KPAE to CHS today (02/06). There is a possibility that she might be delivered from CHS, though she is Everett built. VT-ANA is scheduled to be delivered today at CHS. _________________ 11000 posts (and counting) on Airliners-India. Back to top 747-237 Member Joined: 11 Jun 2007 Posts: 11347 Location: Gordon Gekko's Boardroom Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 8:54 pm    Post subject: Air India's 13th 787, VT-ANA, has been delivered today (03/10) at CHS; ETA DEL 1000 IST (03/11). _________________ 11000 posts (and counting) on Airliners-India. Back to top sumantra Member Joined: 28 Oct 2007 Posts: 4685 Location: New Delhi Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 7:46 pm    Post subject: ...This is just in case you may have missed out on this picture - All credits to the photographer, I am merely reproducing it here. Notice who brought the plane in. The senior four-striper (fourth from right) is none other than national hero Captain Devi Sharan, the hero of the IC 814 Kandahar hijacking saga. It is only apt that this great man brought back the first Dream)liner constructed for Air India. He is one of the very senior ex-IC A300/A320/A332 captains transferring to the Dream)liner, along with other famous senior ex-IC Captains like Captian Nivedita Bhasin. She brought in the second Dream)liner, AND `the connector', right? Or did she bring in Princess ANI? I can never forget my only meeting with the great man on 14 Mar, 2012: almost exactly two years back: 16. To Chennai, Mar'12 with a Celebrity Captain! http://airlinersindia.s4.bizhat.com/airlinersindia-ftopic12196.html Cheers, Sumantra. Back to top jbalonso777 Member Joined: 05 Jul 2012 Posts: 1501 Location: Never, never land Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 10:02 pm    Post subject: I remember seeing VT-SCA land in CCU years ago. I was absolutely overjoyed to see 'a new Indian Airlines coloured Airbus A320 with one emergency exit door', and react with sheer excitement accordingly. The very next day, I saw a picture in the newspapers of the traditional ceremony, similar to the one shown being done on VT-ANA. I also remember correcting granny - telling her its not a 747, its an A319. Regards Jish Back to top 747-237 Member Joined: 11 Jun 2007 Posts: 11347 Location: Gordon Gekko's Boardroom Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 6:25 am    Post subject: The last of the built 787s for Air India, VT-ANC, has a way to go before being delivered. _________________ 11000 posts (and counting) on Airliners-India. Back to top 747-237 Member Joined: 11 Jun 2007 Posts: 11347 Location: Gordon Gekko's Boardroom Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 3:17 pm    Post subject: http://www.indiatvnews.com/business/india/cracks-to-delay-delivery-of-th-dreamliner-to-air-india-10670.html Cracks to delay delivery of 14th Dreamliner to Air India 14 Mar 2014 Boeing Thursday said the cracks found on the wings of 787 Dreamliners in production could delay delivery of 14th airplane to Air India by 10 to 14 days. "Because we discovered them, we will act and we will fix it," Keskar said. "The delivery to Indian airlines will be delayed by anywhere between 10 to 14 days depending on the work to be done," said Keskar, who met the DGCA and other senior officials in Delhi on Monday. I am guessing they are referring to VT-ANP (Chareston built) as the 14th 787. VT-ANC (Everett built; above), is the other built 787 due to be delivered to AI. That was the third 787 built for Air India, and presumably does not have the wing crack issue. Interestingly enough, neither ANC nor ANP have had their first flight, so it would be interesting to see if ANP is delivered before ANC, which has undergone change incorporation. _________________ 11000 posts (and counting) on Airliners-India. Back to top sammyk Member Joined: 20 Dec 2006 Posts: 2719 Location: Austin, TX Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 9:13 pm    Post subject: ^^^ The wing issue is affects line numbers 151 through 193 so -ANP and -ANQ are the affected ones for AI. Back to top 747-237 Member Joined: 11 Jun 2007 Posts: 11347 Location: Gordon Gekko's Boardroom Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 9:16 pm    Post subject: sammyk wrote: ^^^ The wing issue is affects line numbers 151 through 193 so -ANP and -ANQ are the affected ones for AI. Yes. _________________ 11000 posts (and counting) on Airliners-India. Back to top 747-237 Member Joined: 11 Jun 2007 Posts: 11347 Location: Gordon Gekko's Boardroom Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 10:37 pm    Post subject: VT-ANP is in the air at the time of this posting, on her first flight today ( 03/28 ). She is to be the next 787 (#14) to be delivered to Air India. Here is a first pic of ANP on the Charleston flightline : http://paineairport.com/images/kchs2014.jpg _________________ 11000 posts (and counting) on Airliners-India. Back to top 747-237 Member Joined: 11 Jun 2007 Posts: 11347 Location: Gordon Gekko's Boardroom Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 1:51 am    Post subject: VT-ANC (finally) had her first flight yesterday (04/26). Back to top Caliguy Member Joined: 14 Nov 2007 Posts: 723 Location: Los Angeles Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 4:26 am    Post subject: any chance AI will change the business class seats for the remaining 787 frames to direct aisle access that other airlines are putting in? I really think AI should this way on premium routes and NA they can have all aisle access and on regional routes have the old seats Back to top 747-237 Member Joined: 11 Jun 2007 Posts: 11347 Location: Gordon Gekko's Boardroom Posted: Sat May 24, 2014 8:01 am    Post subject: Air India's 14th 787, VT-ANC, has been delivered today (05/23). Back to top ssbmat Member Joined: 20 Dec 2006 Posts: 1710 Posted: Sun May 25, 2014 9:39 am    Post subject: sumantra wrote: ...This is just in case you may have missed out on this picture - All credits to the photographer, I am merely reproducing it here. Notice who brought the plane in. The senior four-striper (fourth from right) is none other than national hero Captain Devi Sharan, the hero of the IC 814 Kandahar hijacking saga. It is only apt that this great man brought back the first Dream)liner constructed for Air India. He is one of the very senior ex-IC A300/A320/A332 captains transferring to the Dream)liner, along with other famous senior ex-IC Captains like Captian Nivedita Bhasin. She brought in the second Dream)liner, AND `the connector', right? Or did she bring in Princess ANI? I can never forget my only meeting with the great man on 14 Mar, 2012: almost exactly two years back: 16. To Chennai, Mar'12 with a Celebrity Captain! http://airlinersindia.s4.bizhat.com/airlinersindia-ftopic12196.html Cheers, Sumantra. who is doing the pooja in the suit ?? Dinesh Keskar ? Back to top 747-237 Member Joined: 11 Jun 2007 Posts: 11347 Location: Gordon Gekko's Boardroom Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 11:29 pm    Post subject: Air India's 15th 787, VT-ANP, has been delivered today (06/03) and is on her way to DEL. Back to top vikramv2 Member Joined: 22 May 2008 Posts: 435 Location: Powai,Mumbai Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2014 10:41 am    Post subject: VT-ANP just landed. Is this 787 going to be used for launching the MXP/FCO flight on the 6th of June? _________________ http://airliners1.com Visit my photostream @flickr at http://www.flickr.com/photos/26842543@N07/ Back to top abhijith16 Member Joined: 14 Sep 2010 Posts: 1575 Location: DOH/IXE/MEL Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2014 1:08 pm    Post subject: vikramv2 wrote: VT-ANP just landed. Is this 787 going to be used for launching the MXP/FCO flight on the 6th of June? 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