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Etihad purchases 5 x 777-200LRs from Air India
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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A6-LRC, the former VT-ALC, will carry special "Abu Dhabi to the World" titles for EY.

Wait isn't that Jet's new motto?


Nope, Jet's new motto is "From India to Abu Dhabi to the World" Razz
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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A6-LRC, the former VT-ALC, will carry special "Abu Dhabi to the World" titles for EY.

Wait isn't that Jet's new motto?


Nope, Jet's new motto is "From India to Abu Dhabi to the World" Razz


Hhaha! True.

Then again, the "From India to Abu Dhabi" part is perfectly adequate right now. The "to the world" bit hasn't happened yet, and may never do.

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Speaking of, my friend recently took advantage of the 9W-EY venture and experienced the delights of the joint offering. Here are pictures of the IFE screens.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A6-LRC has been fully painted in EY colors and is ready for delivery.

Meanwhile, the former VT-ALB has been ferried to AMS for repaint into Etihad livery as A6-LRB.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 6:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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A6-LRC has been fully painted in EY colors and is ready for delivery.


Yeah, that is regular Etihad livery.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 8:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

All in all, I am happy the LRs will get the flying that they really deserve. No more downtimes at Kalina/Sahar complex. In good hands now!
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pics of VT-ALA and ALC here. http://www.bangaloreaviation.com/2014/03/photos-etihad-starts-taking-delivery-air-indias-777-200lrs.html
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Three, not four .... VT-ALF, VT-ALG, VT-ALH. Air India intends to sell them as well.
Talking about ALH, published story with pics about parts being cannibalised for use in other AI B77Ls. http://www.bangaloreaviation.com/2014/03/air-india-cannibalises-777-named-maharashtra-shivajis-airport.html

This has created some form of problem for AI folks as their local PR person kept calling me till I published their rejoinder. which is also in the story.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 1:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Talking about ALH, published story with pics about parts being cannibalised for use in other AI B77Ls. http://www.bangaloreaviation.com/2014/03/air-india-cannibalises-777-named-maharashtra-shivajis-airport.html

This has created some form of problem for AI folks as their local PR person kept calling me till I published their rejoinder. which is also in the story.


Shocked

That airplane is never going to fly again, that much is obvious. They might as well sell it to a scrap dealer and get it broken up.

What an incompetent bunch of people!
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I saw her last week at BOM.

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.... she just might be the all elusive VT-ALH.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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This has created some form of problem for AI folks as their local PR person kept calling me till I published their rejoinder. which is also in the story.


What a stupid rejoinder - more meaningless mumbo-jumbo there...
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 11:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yeah, I saw her last week at BOM.
Would you by chance have a better quality photo ? thanks in advance.
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Yeah, I saw her last week at BOM.
Would you by chance have a better quality photo ? thanks in advance.


Sorry, that is the best I have. This is what I saw on 03/22 at BOM.

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Air India's fleet, as seen earlier this morning at BOM ....

At least two B747-400s seem to be in long term storage.



Another pic below.


At least one B747-400 seems to be active.




Two 777s are parked - one being worked on in the hangar, another outside. One A310 in AI colors is being broken up at BOM, as is the former AI A310 in Aryan Cargo colors.




There is yet another 777 that is in bad shape, parked next to the two 744s in long term storage ....




.... seen from this angle, her engines are missing and it might be a while before she flies anyplace ....




.... she just might be the all elusive VT-ALH.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Sorry, that is the best I have. This is what I saw on 03/22 at BOM.
May I use the one picture on bangaloreaviation?
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Sorry, that is the best I have. This is what I saw on 03/22 at BOM.
May I use the one picture on bangaloreaviation?


You have my explicit permission - photo credit will be nice, and you can (e)mail me the check / cheque Smile
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"Maharashtra" at its capital, BOM in happier times! Smile


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jasepl wrote:
The_Goat wrote:
jasepl wrote:
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A6-LRC, the former VT-ALC, will carry special "Abu Dhabi to the World" titles for EY.

Wait isn't that Jet's new motto?


Nope, Jet's new motto is "From India to Abu Dhabi to the World" Razz


Hhaha! True.

Then again, the "From India to Abu Dhabi" part is perfectly adequate right now. The "to the world" bit hasn't happened yet, and may never do.

Mieux?

Speaking of, my friend recently took advantage of the 9W-EY venture and experienced the delights of the joint offering. Here are pictures of the IFE screens.

They finish each others' sentences... Seamlessness :



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The ex AI LRs will be deployed on the Abu Dhabi – Sao Paulo route w.e.f. 01 September.
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Meanwhile, the former VT-ALB has been ferried to AMS for repaint into Etihad livery as A6-LRB.


The former VT-ALB is now in full EY livery at AMS, as A6-LRB.



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 10:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The ex AI LRs will be deployed on the Abu Dhabi – Sao Paulo route w.e.f. 01 September.


A nice long route - perfect for the LRs!
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Wow. She might not be a big money maker but she sure is good looking!!
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 2:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The fourth Air India 77L for EY, the former VT-ALE has been ferried to AMS for repaint into Etihad livery as A6-LRE.
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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2014 6:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The fourth Air India 77L for EY, the former VT-ALE has been ferried to AMS for repaint into Etihad livery as A6-LRE.


And one last look at VT-ALE.

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Wow. She might not be a big money maker but she sure is good looking!!


Oh I'm sure she'll earn enough dirhams for Etihad flying to and from Brazil, partly aided by an operational team that actually put her on routes she is designed for. It isn't rocket science.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2014 1:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The fifth and final Air India 77L for EY, the former VT-ALD has been ferried to AMS for repaint into Etihad livery as A6-LRD.
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The fifth and final Air India 77L for EY, the former VT-ALD has been ferried to AMS for repaint into Etihad livery as A6-LRD.


And one final look at VT-ALD in AI colors.

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The former VT-ALD is now in full EY livery at AMS, as A6-LRD. To be ferried to AUH tomorrow.

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The former VT-ALD is now in full EY livery at AMS, as A6-LRD. To be ferried to AUH tomorrow.



That bird. Jaw-dropping gorgeous!
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Looks fantabulous.
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I read that as LARD Embarassed
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Any info on the internal configuration and seats?
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Any info on the internal configuration and seats?


237-seats in a three-cabin arrangement : 8 Diamond First Class suites, 40 Pearl Business Class flatbed seats, and 189 Coral Economy Class seats.
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http://www.business-standard.com/article/pti-stories/ai-loss-rs-800-cr-in-books-in-sale-of-5-boeing-777-to-etihad-114072100936_1.html

Air India made a loss of Rs 800 crore in the books in the sale of five Boeing 777 aircraft to Etihad Airways as these aircraft had depreciated in the books over 20 years.

However, the national carrier generated a surplus of over USD 25 million after prepayment of aircraft loan and saved a further USD five million per month towards loan and interest repayment, Minister of State for Civil Aviation G M Siddeshwara said in reply to a question.


Referring to the losses, he said based on the book value of these planes, "book loss on sale of these five aircraft would be approximately Rs 800 crores as the aircraft had depreciated in the books over a period of 20 years while the loans were amortized over a period of 12 years".

However, the national carrier generated a surplus of USD 25.735 million after prepayment of the Aircraft loan when the national carrier sold these five B777-200LR aircraft, he said.

Further, a saving of USD five million per month was generated towards loan and interest repayment, resulting in improved cash flow, Siddeshwara said. He also said that the planes were found uneconomical primarily due to high fuel cost and low yields due to competition.
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Las Vegas Sands group should replace their two 747SP with these, they recently aquired an ex-Singapore A345 instead.
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Las Vegas Sands group should replace their two 747SP with these, they recently aquired an ex-Singapore A345 instead.


I am sure the ex-SQ A345 was a LOT cheaper than these 77Ls will be.
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http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Air-India-had-to-sell-777s-at-1/5th-price-Vinod-Rai/articleshow/42391843.cms

Air India had to sell 777s at 1/5th price: Vinod Rai

Sep 13, 2014

Cash-strapped Air India's purchase of Boeing 777 aircraft pushed it into such a state of financial unviability that within five years, the airline had to sell its aircraft to Etihad at one-fifth the original price, former Comptroller & Auditor General Vinod Rai told TOI in an exclusive interview on Friday.

"When any purchase has a debt proportion of 97%, there's no way it can be commercially profitable. Within five years of the 777s purchased by AI, they had to be sold to Etihad at five for the price of one. We bought one aircraft at one price and sold it at one-fifth of that price," said Rai.


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http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Air-India-had-to-sell-777s-at-1/5th-price-Vinod-Rai/articleshow/42391843.cms

Air India had to sell 777s at 1/5th price: Vinod Rai

Sep 13, 2014

Cash-strapped Air India's purchase of Boeing 777 aircraft pushed it into such a state of financial unviability that within five years, the airline had to sell its aircraft to Etihad at one-fifth the original price, former Comptroller & Auditor General Vinod Rai told TOI in an exclusive interview on Friday.

"When any purchase has a debt proportion of 97%, there's no way it can be commercially profitable. Within five years of the 777s purchased by AI, they had to be sold to Etihad at five for the price of one. We bought one aircraft at one price and sold it at one-fifth of that price," said Rai.




Air India 777LRs sold to Etihad were used for seven years: report
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Air India reportedly said the five Boeing 777LRs sold to Etihad Airways for USD67.3 million per aircraft were purchased at an average price of USD127 per aircraft and used for seven years (Live Mint, 16-Sep-2014). This follows comments made by former comptroller and auditor general Vinod Rai that Air India’s purchase of 777 aircraft pushed the airline into such a state of financial unviability that within five years, it had to sell aircraft to Etihad at one-fifth the original price.
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The only Air India 777-200LR to wear two liveries (current, and the "stillborn" colors), she has now been painted in full Etihad livery and will be back in AUH soon.


With the unveiling of the new Etihad livery today, the ex AI LRs are to be repainted by 2017. VT-ALA / A6-LRA would then have worn 2 liveries of each airline.
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The only Air India 777-200LR to wear two liveries (current, and the "stillborn" colors), she has now been painted in full Etihad livery and will be back in AUH soon.


With the unveiling of the new Etihad livery today, the ex AI LRs are to be repainted by 2017. VT-ALA / A6-LRA would then have worn 2 liveries of each airline.


Good.

Etihad's existing "Gaddafi-esque, Arab autocrat" livery is ludicrous.
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Etihad's existing "Gaddafi-esque, Arab autocrat" livery is ludicrous.


Not the words I'd choose to describe it, but to each his own:


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