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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 2:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, because all of that pie in the sky stuff in the "BJP manifesto" (which looks surprisingly like the Congress Baba-log manifesto) is actually going to happen.

All that will happen is that the Congress' thugs and bandits will be replaced by the thugs and bandits who were around from 1999-2004.

Given how rapacious the Congress variety were, there's something to be said for that replacement because one can hope the BJP variety will be less skilled in the art of looting and plundering.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Given how rapacious the Congress variety were, there's something to be said for that replacement because one can hope the BJP variety will be less skilled in the art of looting and plundering.

Well said.
I don't understand why people are getting so excited about this BJP manifesto Rolling Eyes No real difference is there? All parties will embellish their piece of paper with flowery ideas .... most will be forgotten 4 years down the line.

It better be worth the economic push everyone is hoping for- if these saffron RSS types take us back 50 years with trying to rebuild the Ram Mandir and what not it's not worth it.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

While the BJP's manifesto may look all promising, they must also reflect upon these many years, as to why they were not considered the best alternative to Congress. This is the time for them to reconcile with all the communities apart from the Hindus.

Otherwise, the sceptics, as rightfully they are, will not vote for them, even if it means that they have to grudgingly bare another brunt of the Congress's corruption practise and dynastic politics.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 11:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I for one hope we get some strong leadership as an alternate to baby-G!
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whether Namo becomes PM or not, but definitely Mulayam Singh Yadav, the biggest SOB of UP should never become even a MP, let alone become a PM (which I think is far-fetched) for degrading women.

He made an idiotic comment of not letting the rapists be hanged. He also went on to say Boys will be boys.

Here is the link to the whole story in Yahoo.

https://in.news.yahoo.com/mulayam-singh-shows-how-serious-our-politicians-are-in-tackling-crimes-against-women-130342680.html



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Whether Namo becomes PM or not, but definitely Mulayam Singh Yadav, the biggest SOB of UP should never become even a MP, let alone become a PM (which I think is far-fetched) for degrading women.



What else can be expected from a bumpkin like Mulayam Singh Yadav?
More rapes happen in UP than anywhere else in India so he is probably trying to appeal to the rapists to get them to vote for him.

But I would agree that death sentence is probably too much for rape, unless of course, it results in the death of the victim.

If the idea of a punishment is to prevent the perpetrator from committing the crime again then chemical castration is the best punishment for rape.

and by the way, why doesn't anyone do anything about the fact that Mulayam's ass kissers refer to him as 'Netaji'? They have no right to insult Subhas Chandra Bose.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 8:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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But I would agree that death sentence is probably too much for rape, unless of course, it results in the death of the victim.

If the idea of a punishment is to prevent the perpetrator from committing the crime again then chemical castration is the best punishment for rape.

and by the way, why doesn't anyone do anything about the fact that Mulayam's ass kissers refer to him as 'Netaji'? They have no right to insult Subhas Chandra Bose.


Giving a life imprisonment of upto 40 years is also a good punishment for the culprits but for those that are repeat offenders like in the Mumbai rape case, they deserved to be hanged.

AFAS chemical castration as a best punishment goes, yes it must be given to the rapists. It should have been implemented long time back.

Also the Indian judicial system should be bold enough to uphold their verdict given to an accused in a rape case, rather than succumb to the pressure of these Human Rights activists and reverse their decision.

Unfortunately, to these activists no judgement seems to be the right one, except to give these rapists some counselling and help to reform them. I wonder why they show lack of sympathy towards the victims. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 11:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was the same Mulayam who claimed prior to the last elections that computers and the English language go against progressive thinking? Lol.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Boy, Do I love it when our pseudo-secularist media gets caught with their pants down..Just a moment ago, there was this OB van coverage of a crowd in Narendra Modi's village. The boyish looking Lead Anchor from Headlines Today was handing the mike around to an obviously pro-Modi crowd.

Amongst those, he managed to catch one person who said he belonged to BSP and switched allegiance after 18 years of serving BJP .Fair enough. Next, he managed to ask a local Congress person who surprisingly agreed that Namo should be PM. This anchor desperately tried to plead "dont come under pressure from the crowd etc"..that was one try.
Having failed to persuade the Congresswala, he next moved to a Muslim gent sitting behind him, and said, there are voices of dissent still around, and then asks this gent. The fellow says " I have no problem if Narendrabhai comes to Delhi and becomes PM, it will be good".Shocked
Poor Anchor-boy goes red in the face and doesnt know where to look. Then, he somehow regains composure and calls for an ad-break.

This is exactly the problem I have with our pseudo-secularist media. I am no Namo-fan, and not even from his state. But the harder this section of the media keeps fanning this unwarranted anti-Modi'sm, the more votes he will get eventually. I think the media is far more polarising than the people themselves, 90% of whom just want to earn their bread and realize their aspirations, whether they wear green or saffron.

And I am tired of this "dont shoot the messenger" BS that media puts up when confronted with this ugly reality.

I say, "dont shoot the message" to the media. Grill BJP and Modi by all means as much as you poke fun at Congress and its leadership . But not on the wrong lines. Dont spread misinformation and mistrust.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 9:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I say, "dont shoot the message" to the media. Grill BJP and Modi by all means as much as you poke fun at Congress and its leadership . But not on the wrong lines. Dont spread misinformation and mistrust.


Totally agree....

The media will only try and do stuff that earns it moolah i.e. create sensationalism. What fun is watching a show where everyone agrees to a point of view?

So - show dissent, arguments, debates, fights - and people will come flocking to watch your show! Sad but true...
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is all to do with paid news only, irrespective of whichever political party we may talk about. People have to apply their own discretion in choosing who is the right leader to rule this country.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rahul Gandhis theme song video Laughing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWPVTGV6uoM
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 11:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A good read...

http://harvardpolitics.com/world/india-need-narendra-modi/
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

vivekman wrote:
A good read...

http://harvardpolitics.com/world/india-need-narendra-modi/

I wouldn't go as far as to agree that India needs Modi.

India needs someone who has some of the characteristics of Modi, certainly. But out of a billion and a half people, the one with bloody hands is supposedly our only Etihad? I don't think so.

I think it's an incredibly sad reflection on the state of our country when someone with such a questionable past (to put it in the most polite terms I could come up with) is being championed by so many. We'll be - we already are - crossing a line that cannot be uncrossed.
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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2014 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Amidst all this political drama that we see daily in our news channel, here is a funny video in YouTube by John Oliver about the current Indian election. He asks why American media is not covering the Indian elections that seriously.

It is hilarious. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZDYsSOngik Laughing

The funniest part of the video is comparing American news media to Indian news media. Our very own "National Ratna"(Pun intended here), Mr. Arnab Goswami, Laughing is being compared to O'Reilly as someone who repeats same thing over and over again.

There is a video clip in the end, where Arnab repetitively asks Meenakshi Lekhi, the BJP spokeswoman, as to, "how dare you say I take money?".

LOLs... Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2014 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hopefully who handles the MOCA does a proactive job for the Industry.
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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2014 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hopefully who handles the MOCA does a proactive job for the Industry.


And, it's hopefully, not Subramaniam 'poke-a-nose' Swamy!

Uh oh, here come the Swamy-trolls!
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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2014 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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HAWK21M wrote:
Hopefully who handles the MOCA does a proactive job for the Industry.


And, it's hopefully, not Subramaniam 'poke-a-nose' Swamy!

Uh oh, here come the Swamy-trolls!


If Swamy handles that portfolio, then I'm afraid it will be curtains for Air Asia India and TATA-SIA. He will raise some issue of least concern to disallow them from flying in Indian skies.

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PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2014 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There was talk that PP wants to join the ruling NDA - perhaps he's longing for a first class seat in the sky?
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PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2014 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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There was talk that PP wants to join the ruling NDA - perhaps he's longing for a first class seat in the sky?


I think BJP has shut the door for him.
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PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2014 11:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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There was talk that PP wants to join the ruling NDA - perhaps he's longing for a first class seat in the sky?


I think BJP has shut the door for him.


It is actually the NCP's president Sharad Pawar, who has confirmed that his party will not be part of the NDA.

BJP would require support from more political parties as they will fall way short from the half way mark.
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^^ Sharad Pawar will jump ship if needed, or perhaps PP will break away? Who knows how the political landscape will evolve, what we do know is that it will be a fascinating watch!
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G-BYGB wrote:
abhijith16 wrote:
HAWK21M wrote:
Hopefully who handles the MOCA does a proactive job for the Industry.


And, it's hopefully, not Subramaniam 'poke-a-nose' Swamy!

Uh oh, here come the Swamy-trolls!


If Swamy handles that portfolio, then I'm afraid it will be curtains for Air Asia India and TATA-SIA. He will raise some issue of least concern to disallow them from flying in Indian skies.

Sad


Hope its someone who will push the Industry forward......with Air Asia India/TATA-SIA JV/Fedex tieup...compitetion will make profits less
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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2014 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If someone in the NDA brings in some reform in aviation policies, I will be glad.
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Mods, time to change the name ! Smile
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2014 11:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Mods, time to change the name ! Smile


My word! The BJP and its allies may well cross the 300 mark, and Sonia Gandhi may not even be the leader of the opposition Shocked

That's the very definition of a 'rout'.

And the much touted AAP? They're nowhere to be seen!
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2014 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Congrats to the BJP. And the Congress deserve the pasting they're getting.

That said, that we will almost certainly have a prime minister with such bloody hands is possibly our greatest national shame to date.
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2014 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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That said, that we will almost certainly have a prime minister with such bloody hands is possibly our greatest national shame to date.


Don't reckon it's too big of a deal.

Funnily enough, the Pakistanis (of all people) too go on and on about that facet of Modi. Then again, they're also pointlessly worried about Palestine and Muslims in Burma and the like, irrespective of whether the citizens of the mentioned countries give two hoots about the average 'awaam' of Multan or Karachi.
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And the much touted AAP? They're nowhere to be seen!


Well, looks like they've won a seat, and are leading in another four. [12:08 PM]
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Don't reckon it's too big of a deal.

That statement right there - one that is seemingly shared by millions of people - is possibly our greatest national tragedy yet.
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Don't reckon it's too big of a deal.

That statement right there - one that is seemingly shared by millions of people - is possibly our greatest national tragedy yet.


Prime Ministers and/or Presidents (Premiers, in general) of most of the developing world have some degree of shadiness in their history.

I'm not condoning the contentious incident that occurred a dozen years into the past, but 'greatest national tragedy' on voicing out an opinion that grudgingly admits the sentence I've typed out above might be taking it several leaps too far.
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2014 12:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Don't reckon it's too big of a deal.

That statement right there - one that is seemingly shared by millions of people - is possibly our greatest national tragedy yet.


Dude, which Indian politician doesn't have blood on his/her hands?

All of them have either killed or incited riots, leading to people getting killed.

It is not as if the Congress or any other party is full of saints , is it?

It is disgusting how this is used against Modi, while everyone else is forgiven simply because they sit under a so-called 'secular' tag. Typical Indian myopia and hypocrisy at work.

At least, Modi has been given a clean chit by the courts. So he deserves the benefit of doubt.
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It is disgusting how this is used against Modi, while everyone else is forgiven simply because they sit under a so-called 'secular' tag. Typical Indian myopia and hypocrisy at work.


I have a reasonable hunch that it has something to do with the fact that the detractors have little else to hit Modi with.
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Other countries can do what they like; I'm talking about ours.

And I'm not begrudging your opinion. Rather, saying that I find it very, very saddening that, for the first time in the history of our country, someone with such a questionable, bloody past is going to become prime minister. And that that man's individual win is being celebrated as much as the party's triumph.

All that aside, clearly I'm not a fan of the BJP. And even more clearly I feel the man they've chosen to lead them and the country belongs in prison rather than in the Prime Minister's chair.

But I am also glad that, at long last, we will have one party with a clear majority in Parliament (that will hopefully not have to dance to the tunes of the near-despotic women of the regional parties).
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Rather, saying that I find it very, very saddening that, for the first time in the history of our country, someone with such a questionable, bloody past is going to become prime minister.


Why is this - of all adjectives that can be slotted in - 'sad'? I'd understand if you said 'fear' or the like, though I hardly believe that he's going to fire up a grenade launcher and kill us all either.

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But I am also glad that, at long last, we will have one party with a clear majority in Parliament (that will hopefully not have to dance to the tunes of the near-despotic women of the regional parties).


Don't count on that, the BJP will still be short of an adequate number of seats in the Rajya Sabha, so it's in their interest to clock up on some allies there. Brace yourself for 'Amma' or some hag like her.
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And, in unrelated news, Kamal R Khan is fulfilling his promise of leaving India. Will leave on EK507!!!!
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I have a reasonable hunch that it has something to do with the fact that the detractors have little else to hit Modi with.


Oh absolutely! That's where the hypocrisy comes in.




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And, in unrelated news, Kamal R Khan is fulfilling his promise of leaving India. Will leave on EK507!!!!


Kamal who??

and why EK507 and not PK275 Razz
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I think maybe I'm not explaining my point properly. Of course there are countless tainted politicians, including many with actual blood on their hands.

However, never before has anyone been selected to be PM with said bloody record in their past. Whatever baggage other MPs and ministers brought with them the prime ministers have all been relatively untainted (at least they were before assuming office) : Singh, Vajpayee, Rao, Gujral, Gandhi, Desai, Gandhi and so forth.

One may believe that Modi isn't guilty of anything criminally and that he has no blood on his own hands. Fine. However, there's no denying that, at best, he failed in his single most important responsibility as elected leader of his state. And there's never been a hint of remorse, or the slightest bit of acceptance of responsibility.

The fact that, as a nation, we're delighted with someone with this troubled past becoming our PM is what I find sad.


Sadness aside, I now have three things that make me happy:
1. that a single party has a majority on one house at least
2. that Mayawati and the Carrots are pretty much wiped out
3. the news that I made an obscenely, ridiculously large killing when Delna decided to sell a chunk of my mutual funds yesterday!


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Add: I just heard from a friend (different constituency) who couldn't decide who to vote for and didn't want to go NOTA, so he voted for Rakhi Sawant. Idiot! Smile

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Even SHE is preferable to some of the looters in the Congress, and to assorted idiots in other parties. Rakhi Sawant may be tacky and dumb, but is certainly not a thief or someone who was promoted by a political daddyji. I would choose her over Milind Deora anyday.

Apparently she got 15 whole votes. Fifteen!
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This is akin to a Federer or Nadal destroying each other 6-2, 6-1, 6-0.

But more importantly, it is a resounding whupping of the hindquarters of an arrogant party, whose obnoxious pseudo-elite former minister proffered to give NaMo a chance to sell tea at their party convention.
That tea, 284 cups of it precisely, has scalded and drowned this party .

All parties have corruption et al, but this party, in the face of heaps of scams, was shamelessly pursuing divisive and economically destructive policies, even though the writing was on the wall after the assembly elections of Dec-2013. Like the mythical 100 sins of Shishupal (Mahabharat) , their time was finally up.

Now, about Modi and Co, I seriously hope they do the task of nation building that people have so generously invited them to. They will have to be INCREDIBLY stupid to waste this huge mandate, come 2019.
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2014 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is a befitting reply for all the foul-mouthed Congressmen, who abused Modi till the end of this election.

I hope they will be muted forever and learn to mend their ways. They have been so over confident and the most corrupt people that India has ever seen.

Congrats to BJP! Hope they keep all communities together and let every Indian aspire to become prosperous.

I found it amazing that even today, Rahul Gandhi and Sonia are not interested in speaking at length about what went wrong and I would like to see them do a 1 on 1 interview with a news anchor.
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