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PostPosted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 3:40 am    Post subject: Boeing 777 crash lands,spins, burns at San Francisco airport Reply with quote

http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/06/us/california-plane-incident/index.html?hpt=hp_t1


CNN) -- A Boeing 777 bound from South Korea crashed Saturday upon landing at San Francisco International Airport, sending up a huge fireball and spinning before finally coming to a stop -- having lost its tail and, eventually, much of its charred roof.

Asiana Airlines Flight 214 left Seoul's Incheon International Airport earlier Saturday, according to FlightAware, a website that offers tracking services for private and commercial air traffic. An airline spokesman told CNN that 291 passengers and 16 staff members were aboard, an Asiana Airlines spokesperson told CNN from Seoul.

The U.S. Coast Guard has transported one person to Stanford Hospital, said Corrine Gaines of the military branch. She did not provide additional information on the patient's status. In brief remarks to reporters around 2 p.m. (5 p.m. ET), airport spokesman Doug Yakel did not offer any details on the conditions of the plane's passengers.

Air traffic control audio -- between the airport's tower and Flight 214 crew members -- suggested that those on the ground knew there was some sort of problem, promising that "emergency vehicles are responding."

"We have everyone on their way," the air traffic controller said, according to LiveATC.net, a website that provides air traffic control audio.

Anthony Castorani, who witnessed the flight land from a nearby hotel, said he saw the plane touch the ground then noticed a larger plume of white smoke.

"You heard a pop and you immediately saw a large, brief fireball that came from underneath the aircraft," he told CNN.
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Kristina Stapchuck saw the dramatic scene unfold from her seat on a plane on the airport tarmac. Soon after Flight 214 touched down, "it looked like the tires slipped a little bit and it rocked back," she told CNN.

Parts of the plane began to break off as it rocked and then began to spin.

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"It all happened so suddenly," Stapchuck told CNN.

A photo provided to CNN by Eunice Bird Rah -- and shot by her father, who was a passenger on the plane -- shows flames and smoke bursting out of many of the aircraft's windows.

Rah's father knew something bad was coming, he told his daughter, telling her the plane was coming in too low and the pilot tried to raise it at the last minute. Rah said her father "is doing fine, thank God," but noted that others appeared to be hurt.

Said Rah: "It's heartbreaking."

Video taken soon after the crash and posted on YouTube showed dark gray smoke rising from the plane, which appeared to be upright. That smoke later became white, even as fire crews continued to douse the plane.

CNN iReporter Timothy Clark was on an eighth-floor balcony of a nearby hotel when he heard the noise and saw a "dust cloud."

"Then people running from the plane, then flames," Clark said.

A photograph posted to Twitter shows what appear to be passengers walking off the plane, some of them toting bags, as smoke rises from the other side.

"I just crash landed at SFO," read the accompanying message from David Eun. "Tail ripped off. Most everyone seems fine. I'm ok. Surreal..."
The Boeing 777-200LR has been in service since March 2006

The plane can carry 301 passengers and travel a maximum distance of 9,395 nautical miles

Asiana Airlines operates 71 aircraft and serves 14.7 million passengers annually

The airline was voted Airline of the Year by Global Traveler in 2011

In 1993, Asiana Airlines Boeing 737 crashed killing 68 people

The top of the aircraft was charred and, in spots, gone entirely, according to video from CNN affiliate KTVU. The plane was on its belly, with no landing gear evident and the rear tail of the plane gone.

Debris settled from the water's edge, along San Francisco Bay, up to where the plane eventually came to a stop.

Fire trucks were on site; first responders could be seen walking outside the aircraft.

Evacuation slides could be seen extending from one side of the aircraft, from which there was no apparent smoke.

Sheryl Sandberg, Facebook's chief operating officer and author of the book "Lean In," was supposed to be on the flight.

But she wrote on her Facebook page that she'd switched instead to a United flight, arriving about 20 minutes before the Asiana flight crashed.

The Bay Area airport was closed to incoming and departing traffic after the crash, the Federal Aviation Administration said on its website, adding that the time when it's expected to reopen is unknown.

Flights destined for San Francisco's airport -- known by its call letters, SFO -- were being diverted to airports in Oakland, Sacramento, San Jose and Los Angeles, said Francis Zamora from the San Francisco Department of Emergency Management. He added his office is working with San Mateo County's Office of Emergency Services in responding to the incident, Zamora said.

San Francisco International Airport, located some 12 miles south of downtown San Francisco, is California's second busiest, behind LAX.

There were a few clouds in the sky around the time of the crash, and temperatures were about 65 degrees, according to the National Weather Service. Winds were about 8 miles per hour.

The National Transportation Safety Board is sending a "go team" that will be led by chairwoman Deborah Hersman to investigate the crash, the agency said. Boeing is "preparing to provide technical assistance" to investigators, company spokesman Miles Kotay said in a statement.

There are no signs of terrorism related to the crash, a national security official told CNN. President Barack Obama was at Camp David when he learned about the crash, a senior White House official said.

Asiana Airlines -- one of South Korea's two major airlines, the other being Korean Air -- is investigating the cause of the crash, a company spokesman told CNN.

The airline got the plane involved in the incident in 2006, according to the Aviation Safety Network. The craft has two Pratt & Whitney engines, it said.

Asiana operates many of its flights out of Incheon International Airport, which is the largest airport in South Korea and considered among the busiest in the world.

According to information on Asiana Airlines' website, the company has 12 Boeing 777 planes. They have a seating capacity of between 246 and 300 people and had a cruising speed of 555 mph (894 kph).

CNN's Chelsea J. Carter, Rande Iaboni, K.J. Kwon, John King and Janet DiGiacomo contributed to this report.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Saw this sad news on CNN last night. Thank God most of the pax were safe. Saw the live video on CNN. The roof was in flame and the tail fell apart from the aircraft body. Still not sure if it was a pilot error or something wrong in the aircraft.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

<b>Crash Survivor Says Announcement Claimed the Plane Had Landed Safely</b>

http://news.yahoo.com/crash-survivor-says-announcement-claimed-020116680.html

<i>Moments after Asiana Airlines flight 214 stopped its violent crash landing, a voice came over the plane's intercom to say it had landed safely and everyone should stay in their seats, a passenger told ABC News.

Within minutes, however, flames could be seen outside the plane's windows and smoke was seeping into the cabin.

Lee Jang-Hyung, 32, was sitting with his wife Lee Ji-Young, 33, and his toddler son who is 15 months old in the front row of the plane's economy class section. His parents-in-law were sitting in business class.

Hyung said he and his family survived the crash without injury, but he was clearly shaken by the harrowing close call.

"Just minutes before landing, I looked out the window and realized the plane's angle was strangely tilted. The seawater level did not look right," said Hyung, a Korean citizen who lives near Berkeley. His wife is an American citizen.

"Suddenly, the plane's tail part hit the ground and the aircraft bounced upwards and then bam, it hit the ground again. This time it felt like the entire plane hit parallel, but tilted to the left. That pressure was huge. Very strong. I saw luggages fall from the top. And the plane gradually stopped.

"Until then, there was no warning. The drop happened without a warning," he said.

Still stunned by the crash, he said, "We heard an announcement saying the plane has safely landed and everyone should stay put."

Hyung said he put on an oxygen mask that had dropped down and put another on his young son and ran to the door.

"But I was turned back to my seat by the flight attendants. Right when I came back to my seat, I saw smoke and fire outside the right window. The flames were spreading and smoke started to come inside the aircraft. I grabbed my wife and son and ran to the exit door. By then, they had slides ready," he said.

San Francisco Fire Chief Joanne Hayes White said that when the first fire units arrived, three chutes were deployed and passengers were sliding down to evacuate the plane.

"My parents-in-law were on business class and they told us that they saw a stewardess hurt. When the plane made the second crash and all fell loose, some sort of computer machinery fell from the ceiling on top of her when she was sitting at the flight attendants' seat by the door," Hyung said.

"People were trying to help her, they said. My mother-in-law is injured.... both are bruised by luggage that spilled out," he said.

The ordeal didn't end after their evacuation Hyung said he was somewhere in the airport, but he didn't know where.

"They put us on some sort of cargo elevator and we are somewhere at a dirty smelly place. I had to wait five hours with no diapers and no food. After complaining hard, the authorities finally just brought me diapers," Hyung said.

He said the injured were taken to hospitals, but the other passengers "are all waiting for directions."

Later, they were moved to a more pleasant lounge and given crackers and fruit. But they were told that everyone on the plane had to be interviewed by the FBI before they could be allowed to leave.</i>[/i][/b]
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 12:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

G-BYGB wrote:


Hyung said he put on an oxygen mask that had dropped down and put another on his young son and ran to the door.



I am confused. How do u put on an oxygen mask and then run?!

Tragic incident indeed. I have been watching interviews with some of the survivors and all of them seem to say that "they knew the flight was coming in too low". Having flown a lot, I have never been able to judge that as a passenger, especially an approach over water.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 12:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The first ever 777 crash with fatalities! How sad! Let us hope it will be the last.

Looks similar to BA038. Both RR powered 777s, both on approach. Ice crystals to blame again?


RIP to the dead!


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The_Goat sir,
Please do not get me wrong here, but the first statement you made makes me believe that you were hoping for a Boeing 777 crash with deaths.
In today's world with these high standards of safety, I think it is disappointing to see these happen. Or even, to think about these.
You must admit that having 2 deaths for a plane which is in service for more than 18 years (19 almost), is an astonishing record.
I do hope that the A350 or the B787 does not face these unfortunate accidents.
I apologize if I didn't get your point of view, but this is what I felt.

And a correction, HL7742 was powered by 2 Pratt & Whitney PW4090 engines.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The_Goat wrote:

Looks similar to BA038. Both RR powered 777s, both on approach. Ice crystals to blame again?


The HL7742 had PW 4090 engines.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jbalonso777 wrote:
The_Goat sir,
Please do not get me wrong here, but the first statement you made makes me believe that you were hoping for a Boeing 777 crash with deaths.


ooh sorry! I never meant it like that. Bad on my part. Shall edit it right away!
Yes of course, it is unfortunate. The 777 is an outstanding aircraft, no doubt.
Air crashes are always tragic, irrespective of the airplane involved.


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And a correction, HL7742 was powered by 2 Pratt & Whitney PW4090 engines.

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Noted. Thank you, and iflytb20.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The_Goat wrote:
ooh sorry! I never meant it like that. Bad on my part. Shall edit it right away!
Yes of course, it is unfortunate. The 777 is an outstanding aircraft, no doubt.
Air crashes are always tragic, irrespective of the airplane involved.
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No hard feelings sir, thank you Smile

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There could be windshear or even a very late Go-Around call, the engines did not spool up and the tail impacted the sea wall.

Only the pilots best know what really happened in the last few seconds.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RIP!
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So it looks like ILS was not functional at SFO airport and The Glide Slope was not working either because of scheduled construction activities. But then Notams were issued for this and airlines were aware. The plane came at a speed significantly below the target speed of 137 knots ( according to NTSB's reading of the Flight Data recorder ) and the throttles were at idle.

At 7 seconds before impact, crew called to increase speed. At 4 seconds, crew got stall warning. The pilots called to initiate a "go-around" 1.5 seconds before impact. Even though they gave it throttle it was too late. When the PW engines roared back to life the plane had its nose up at a very sharp angle causing the tail to strike the sea-wall causing it to break off from the plane. The pilot loses direction control at that point without the rudder. Rest is history.

It is amazing how few fatalities there were given the seriousness of the accident and the ensuing fires. The airport crews ( fire management etc ) have done an admirable job rescuing people and transporting the seriously injured to hospitals very quickly.

Interesting to hear ATC conversations and Fire / EMS dispatch:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aL41a-Gnv3A

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5v6PWl9HAI
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What's interesting is how OZ configure their 772s for their SFO flights - very Y heavy (271) with only 24 J Class seats.

In fact, all their aircraft have small J cabins relative to the competition.

But then unlike a certain airline, they don't have to worry about transporting friends and relatives of assorted bureaucrats for pennies in J and F.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 7:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There were three Indian nationals onboard, husband, wife and teen son.
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The pilots were flying a heavy airplane upto the runway at IDLE thrust ? No wonder they got too low and slow!!

Especially in a manual approach, isnt it a basic rule to keep some minimum thrust, even if the plane is a tad fast..at least it will get you properly on the runway, you can idle back while skimming over the piano keys and you will get a firm landing, let the spoilers and reverse thrust do the job. I believe SFO runways 10/28 are plenty long anyway.

What sorta airmanship is this ??
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Based on the pitch attitude of the aircraft just before impact, the pilots clearly were attempting to go around. In landing configuration and low airspeed, the aircraft was "behind the power curve" and therefore had to sacrifice altitude for airspeed for the go-around. Unfortunately, it appears that the OZ crew did not control attitude correctly during go-around, which resulted in a tail strike and impact.

A go around needed to have been initiated long before the aircraft even arrived in this position.

EDIT: Comment about flaps was an incorrect interpretation of AFH - never mind Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Question is , why was the plane behind the power curve during the final approach ? What was the more experienced PNF doing ? Not watching his ASI ?

If this is a clear pilot error, Asiana has major problems with its pilot training.
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The pilot of the Asiana Airlines plane that crashed in San Francisco on Saturday was making his first landing with a Boeing 777 at San Francisco International Airport, the airline said.

But it wasn't his first time flying to San Francisco.

The pilot, Lee Kang-gook, had flown from Seoul to the city several times between 1999 and 2004, the airline said.

He has also clocked 43 hours flying a Boeing 777.

All according to the following CNN link:

http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/07/us/plane-crash-main/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
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Well i have noted that even after the aircraft crashed with its tail section missing the cockpit crew were still able to communicate with the tower & the cabin crew with the passengers on the PA , so i wonder the power was still on the aircraft even after the apu & engines were ripped apart ... i guess the power came from the batteries which could also explain why the fuselage caught fire & not the wings......
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is a video of the crash. The airplane nearly flipped over.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I saw the video, read some of the reports, read the NTSB's initial findings etc. Seems like a case of the pilot screwing up big time. First time landing the 772 did not help Sad. Of course he'd have had lots of training on the 777 SIMs and similar visual approach related training on his earlier a/c type, so it's a complete mystery to me how the pilot screwed up so much (I'm jumping to the conclusion that it's pilot error).

I'm just glad that there were only 2 fatalities (so far at least). Of course the internet has rumors that those fatalities were due to the emergency vehicles running over the them or some such thing - don't know how true that is. The good news is that the pilots are alive and can be investigated completely. I hope it's not something like alcohol or sleep deprivation or something external that robbed them on the situational awareness needed - that could have been so easily prevented..
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ssbmat wrote:
The pilots were flying a heavy airplane upto the runway at IDLE thrust ? No wonder they got too low and slow!!

Especially in a manual approach, isnt it a basic rule to keep some minimum thrust, even if the plane is a tad fast.


I'm not a pilot , but doesn't it depend on the wind as well?

From what I can see it was a hot day, and the plane was flying in from the sea, so it would have experienced a fairly strong headwind. So it may have made sense to approach at idle thrust to counteract the lift that the headwind would have produced.

From the video it looked like the guy actually landed safely, and ran off the runway
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The_Goat wrote:

From the video it looked like the guy actually landed safely, and ran off the runway


He actually touched down at the seawall, lost his tail, almost flipped while doing a 180 about the nose. There is a zoomed in video, I'm still trying to find it.

EDIT: This gives a slightly better view.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

iflytb20 wrote:
The_Goat wrote:

From the video it looked like the guy actually landed safely, and ran off the runway


He actually touched down at the seawall, lost his tail, almost flipped while doing a 180 about the nose. There is a zoomed in video, I'm still trying to find it.

EDIT: This gives a slightly better view.


Thanks mate. Yes, he did land on the sea wall.

I guess everyone's lucky the plane didn't flip over. Would have been many more casualties had that happened.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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ssbmat wrote:
The pilots were flying a heavy airplane upto the runway at IDLE thrust ? No wonder they got too low and slow!!

Especially in a manual approach, isnt it a basic rule to keep some minimum thrust, even if the plane is a tad fast.


I'm not a pilot , but doesn't it depend on the wind as well?

From what I can see it was a hot day, and the plane was flying in from the sea, so it would have experienced a fairly strong headwind. So it may have made sense to approach at idle thrust to counteract the lift that the headwind would have produced.

From the video it looked like the guy actually landed safely, and ran off the runway


Even if there is headwind, it will just produce lift, which could have been countered by raising the flaps up, and pointing nose level, or better still, calling off the approach.

I really dont know, but to me there seems to be an issue with the way pilots sometimes react to unplanned situations. It may be a sweeping statement ,but:
AF-447 - PF pitched nose up while stall warning was blaring away, only to make matters worse.
Asiana-214 - PF pitched nose up right after trying to firewall the throttles ?

OTOH a military veteran with skill , patience and some luck, nursed an unpowered glider in the form of USAir A320 into a controlled ditching. Similarly the Gimli Glider aka AC 767 back in the eighties.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The sad part of this crash is the death of 2 Chinese kids who were run over by the rescue vehicle.

May their soul R.I.P. Sad
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 11:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Only one may have been run over, not fully confirmed. Really sad if its true though.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 11:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eerily similar situation..a late go around..notice that the A340 continues to descend after the TOGA power surge is applied at 0.04 sec.
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ssbmat wrote:
.... isnt it a basic rule to keep some minimum thrust, even if the plane is a tad fast..

The_Goat wrote:
So it may have made sense to approach at idle thrust to counteract the lift that the headwind would have produced.

Just adding my 2 cents ...... pretty much on every commercial jet airliner you need some amount of thrust during approach- not to keep the aircraft in the air or correct speed but for spool up times in case of a go around.
At idle a high bypass turbofan can take an eternity to spool up and deliver substantial thrust (when selected). I would be very surprised if engine thrust was not part of every companys approach stabilization criteria.

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Unfortunately, it appears that the OZ crew did not control attitude correctly during go-around, which resulted in a tail strike and impact.

Well by the time they attempted the go around it was already too late, I assume nothing they could have done would salvage their situation. Like you said the go around was needed long before.

Pitching the aircraft down and reducing flaps at that point would have sent them into seawall..... and a lot more than 2 people would have died.

ssbmat wrote:
I really dont know, but to me there seems to be an issue with the way pilots sometimes react to unplanned situations. It may be a sweeping statement ,but:
AF-447 - PF pitched nose up while stall warning was blaring away, only to make matters worse.
Asiana-214 - PF pitched nose up right after trying to firewall the throttles ?

But that's exactly how you go around, you add power and pitch up. Granted at times (eg high pitch) you don't want to but this accident was not caused by them pitching up and hitting the tail, the issue here was why was it not done earlier when they had the time and altitude and energy to pull it off. Had they pitched down and retracted flaps my guess is more people would be dead.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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aeroblogger wrote:
Unfortunately, it appears that the OZ crew did not control attitude correctly during go-around, which resulted in a tail strike and impact.

Well by the time they attempted the go around it was already too late, I assume nothing they could have done would salvage their situation. Like you said the go around was needed long before.

Pitching the aircraft down and reducing flaps at that point would have sent them into seawall..... and a lot more than 2 people would have died.


In this case, the crash is mainly due to pilot error.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This Accident is textbook CFIT. 'nuf said!

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Even if there is headwind, it will just produce lift, which could have been countered by raising the flaps up, and pointing nose level, or better still, calling off the approach.

Bad Idea Sirji. Playing with config. while attempting a Go-Around is a strict no-no, as Stealthpilot suggested

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Asiana-214 - PF pitched nose up right after trying to firewall the throttles ?

You don't have any other option. Power to the max and pull back and hold your breath. Thats all you can do.

Now what I don't get is the Final App (Vapp) of the a/c acc. to the NTSB was 137 knots. The airspeed bled to 103 knots. What was the PNF who incidentally was a Check Pilot/TRI on Type doing? Someone else called out AIRSPEED and then only was the go-around initiated.
This baffles me.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 12:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Optimus.Prime wrote:
What was the PNF who incidentally was a Check Pilot/TRI on Type doing?



Korea has huge problems with its pilot training, apparently.

Read about it here.

http://www.airliners.net/aviation-articles/read.main?id=160


Wonder how India compares? I'd like to think it is better.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Many of the same factors which are commonly cited as Korea's issues were responsible for IX crash at IXE...
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whether it is a country specific/culture specific issue I am not sure, but I think we need to get back to the basics .It seems to be a bit too easy to fly modern fast jets 99% of the time.

The basic stick and rudder procedures are getting discarded in favour of less complex and supposedly safer automated flight procedures.

Ultimately, shorn of all its avionics and propulsion, every fixed wing airplane is a variant of the humble Cessna 152.

And thats what pilots need to get back to. A bit radical, but why dont airlines put in a stick-and-rudder refresher every now and then? Sims may cover loss of control etc, but a Sim for a B777 would ultimately be built within the limits of the real-world B777. Just my 2paise worth.

I understand that many US carriers encourage pilots to hand fly the planes upto FL100 etc..dunno about Indian carriers. Pilots can comment ?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 12:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The B777 fantastic record ends.......looking fwd to the Investigation report.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 5:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The B777 fantastic record ends.......looking fwd to the Investigation report.


Just shy of the 20 year anniversary too. I for one was really hoping the 777 would reach 20 years without a fatal accident.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 4:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

KTVU Reports Asiana Pilots Named "Sum Ting Wong," "Ho Lee Fuk"

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 8:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, somebody's gonna get fired....
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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KTVU Reports Asiana Pilots Named "Sum Ting Wong," "Ho Lee Fuk"



NTSB Press Release
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NTSB statement on erroneous confirmation of crew names
July 12

The National Transportation Safety Board apologizes for inaccurate and offensive names that were mistakenly confirmed as those of the pilots of Asiana flight 214, which crashed at San Francisco International Airport on July 6.

Earlier today, in response to an inquiry from a media outlet, a summer intern acted outside the scope of his authority when he erroneously confirmed the names of the flight crew on the aircraft.

The NTSB does not release or confirm the names of crewmembers or people involved in transportation accidents to the media. We work hard to ensure that only appropriate factual information regarding an investigation is released and deeply regret today's incident.

Appropriate actions will be taken to ensure that such a serious error is not repeated.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are reports circulating that a child is the 3rd victim after sustaining severe injuries... Sad
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