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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:09 pm    Post subject: The Cricket Thread Reply with quote

Seems fair to kickstart one right now, India v Australia - all 4 test matches of it, is right around the corner.

Here are the schedules:

Fri Feb 22-Feb 26
1st Test - India v Australia
MA Chidambaram Stadium, Chepauk, Chennai

Sat Mar 2 - Wed Mar 6
2nd Test - India v Australia
Rajiv Gandhi International Stadium, Uppal, Hyderabad

Thu Mar 14 - Mon Mar 18
3rd Test - India v Australia
Punjab Cricket Association Stadium, Mohali, Chandigarh

Fri Mar 22 - Tue Mar 26
4th Test - India v Australia
Feroz Shah Kotla, Delhi

Both teams are equally rubbish, so it should make for a good series. Will probably catch Saturday at Chennai. Might get some good shots. Will post here if I do.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, you beat me to this.

Unfortunately I cannot watch the live telecast where I am, so will have to be content with ESPNCricinfo's ball-by-ball update.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 9:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pretty good day's cricket yesterday I thought, here are a couple of shots from a few minutes ago.



Much friendlier than I expected.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice, Varun! The second one was a nice catch
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers, here's another of Clarke belting I shan't take a wicket Sharma: Smile



Match is evenly poised at the moment. Sach will probably score his ton tomorrow but I won't be seeing it - back to Vellore and the telly for now.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So SRT doesn't get his ton after all. Isn't that something like 500 million disappointed Indians?

I think the Aussies have adapted a lot better to Indian conditions than the English did. They aren't playing as badly as England did in Ahmedabad.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 1:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Australia are playing a lot worse, in fact. Their bowling is woeful - if Lyon is going to be their staple spinner going forward this series they're in big trouble.

My prediction for Australia for this entire season of 4 India tests, followed by back-to-back Ashes covering 5 England tests in England and then a reciprocal 5 England tests in Australia, is a 14-0 whitewash barring weather. They're that bad, with only Clarke capable of putting up a fight.

Nowhere in the league of England - they're truly going to reach the pits this calendar year and it'll show.

As for this test specifically, I think we've won it already. Just can't see any way the Aussies will bat out for a draw a day and a half. That's the best part, neither side can draw a game this series - all 4 will end in results and India can complete a 4-0.

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Unfortunately I cannot watch the live telecast where I am, so will have to be content with ESPNCricinfo's ball-by-ball update.


Try crictime or webcric to get a stream.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 2:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Australia are playing a lot worse, in fact. Their bowling is woeful - if Lyon is going to be their staple spinner going forward this series they're in big trouble.

My prediction for Australia for this entire season of 4 India tests, followed by back-to-back Ashes covering 5 England tests in England and then a reciprocal 5 England tests in Australia, is a 14-0 whitewash barring weather. They're that bad, with only Clarke capable of putting up a fight.


Oh England were pretty pathetic in Ahmedabad too. Only Cook could put up a fight there and all our 4-0 whitewash pundits were jumping up in glee. They recovered only in Mumbai in the second test, thanks to the 19-wicket haul by Panesar and Swann, in addition to KP's 180 something.
But while I agree that Australia are far worse than they have been in a while, I wouldn't declare a 4-0 in favour of India just yet. In addition to Clarke, Moises Henriques and David Warner did put up a fight yesterday, and there's Shane Watson who can never be written off. Above all of this India's bowling attack, barring Ashwin, has not been great either.


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Try crictime or webcric to get a stream.


Didn't know they were streaming this game. In any case, it's better not to have a live stream running at work tomorrow Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 12:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good win, aside from Henriques all proven performers scored runs and took wickets.

Hyderabad gets the next test and its second of the season - they'd also hosted New Zealand up front. Kanpur was to be the scheduled venue, but its facilities were under par (only ground to still be under control of a state association and not the BCCI), so it got swapped with Hyderabad as the opener, before a reschedule meant Chennai would be the first.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A monumental thrashing in progress. Very soon it'll be 2 down, 2 to go.

Unfortunately, we're now stuck with Vijay for the foreseeable. Thanks for nothing, Aussies!
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My word, is this Australia or Zimbabwe in disguise Shocked ??? Even Bangladesh are known to put up a better show!

Such cluelessness, and such appalling selection! That too from the Aussies of all people.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tolja, 0-14 on the way barring the famous English weather.

And why draw a line there? Right after the home Ashes series, they've got 3 tests vs South Africa in South Africa, so make that 0-17. Razz
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Tolja, 0-14 on the way barring the famous English weather.

And why draw a line there? Right after the home Ashes series, they've got 3 tests vs South Africa in South Africa, so make that 0-17. Razz


Just checked the FTP, after that they've got a tour of Saeed Ajmal in the UAE.

0-20 Razz
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So the Aussies are falling apart at the seams in the run up to the third test at Mohali. One after the other, the stories keep breaking out:

http://www.espncricinfo.com/india-v-australia-2013/content/story/624494.html?CMP=chrome

http://www.espncricinfo.com/australia/content/story/624562.html?CMP=chrome

http://www.espncricinfo.com/india-v-australia-2013/content/story/624571.html?CMP=chrome

http://www.espncricinfo.com/india-v-australia-2013/content/story/624486.html

It doesn't help that their players are made of glass either, now their keeper's the latest to injure himself and they don't have any back-up. Rumour going around that Haddin may fly into India.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now Pattinson, Johnson, Watto and Khwaja have been suspended. Which means that their most threatening bowler in the series so far, their best reverse swinger and their second most experienced batsman in Indian conditions are out of the tour.

Seen some people shoot themselves in the foot but this has to take the cake and the biscuit! Mickey Arthur must be smoking some really good stuff!
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

3-0!
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 1:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dhawan's injured, so guess who comes in?

Raina! Sheesh.

If Rahane still doesn't get a game now something is really wrong.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Dhawan's injured, so guess who comes in?

Raina! Sheesh.

If Rahane still doesn't get a game now something is really wrong.


I think Rahane is not in Dhoni's good books, which means his career won't take off as long as Dhoni remains the captain.

Unfortunately , as Dhoni won't go anywhere soon, it probably means that Rahane's international career is finished.

It also does not help that Rahane didn't do very well in the few ODI chances that he got, his First Class batting average of 62 notwithstanding.

Personally, I would give Rahane a go for the fourth test. The series is won, so some experimentation won't hurt.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 12:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well done then, four zip.

Also loved the Pakistan-South Africa and New Zealand-England series running in parallel. The latter is a huge FAIL by England, who've proven that they can beat sides like Australia and India home and away, but crumble against Pakistan, West Indies and New Zealand on the side. They probably don't care against the lesser teams and are not as intensive against them.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 12:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spiderguy252 wrote:
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Also loved the Pakistan-South Africa and New Zealand-England series running in parallel. The latter is a huge FAIL by England, who've proven that they can beat sides like Australia and India home and away, but crumble against Pakistan, West Indies and New Zealand on the side. They probably don't care against the lesser teams and are not as intensive against them.


The SA-Pak test series result was a foregone conclusion. No contesting the fact that SA are the no 1. None at all. However I like the fight the Pakis put up in the ODI series. It was far from a walkover for the Saffers there, and but for AB de Villiers, they probably would have lost it. Also liked the centuries by Asad Shafiq and Younis Khan in Cape Town. Excellent innings under pressure.

I don't agree that England was a big fail in NZ, as much as I believe that NZ have been up to their old pitch doctoring tricks again with inexperienced bowlers like Neil Wagner, Trent Boult and B.P.Martin picking up such a big haul. It looks very similar to what our guys faced there in 2002, when beginners Shane Bond, Darryl Tuffey and Jacob Oram had our Dravids, Gangulys, Laxmans and Tendulkars on the mat. Of course, NZ cricket only went down the toilet after that.

I just can't wait for the India tour of South Africa later on. It would be really interesting to see how our new kids on the block, Pujara, Dhawan and Vijay fare when faced with the likes of Steyn, Morkel and Philander on SA soil.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 1:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I just can't wait for the India tour of South Africa later on. It would be really interesting to see how our new kids on the block, Pujara, Dhawan and Vijay fare when faced with the likes of Steyn, Morkel and Philander on SA soil.


Pujara and Vijay have been there once (2010/11) and failed. With that low stance and backlift, I don't see how the former can succeed anywhere outside of India and Lanka, but he has time to change that.

Looking forward more to Kohli and his potential exploits, he's our best bet.
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Sreesanth you moron.
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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2013 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ban the IPL. It's already ruined our test team.
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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2013 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Sreesanth you moron.


Yes, he effed up bad! Probably going to be banned for life.

So we can look forward to " Screwing your cricketing career for Dummies" by Mohd.Amir, Mohd.Asif, Salman Butt and S.Sreesanth. Edited by Mohd Azharuddin.
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PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2013 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LOL check this out, from 2010 after the Pakistani affair:

http://www.ndtv.com/video/player/news/fromndtv/275475
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PostPosted: Sat May 18, 2013 9:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Warner's career is finished, too.



And more:

https://twitter.com/davidwarner31/statuses/335529099969830912

https://twitter.com/davidwarner31/statuses/335529974826147842

https://twitter.com/davidwarner31/statuses/335525508819337216
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PostPosted: Sat May 18, 2013 10:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Be nice to people on your way up. You may need them on your way down".

Too good! Quote of the millenium! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat May 18, 2013 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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"Be nice to people on your way up. You may need them on your way down".

Too good! Quote of the millenium! Very Happy


IPL reminds me of the WWF........Seems dramatic but all acted out. Smile
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Say hello to the future skipper of Lolstralia...


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So now that the Indian Premier Match Fixing League is done with, more relevant tournaments can be focused upon. First up, there is the Champions Trophy starting June 6th in England.

My favourites to win this one are (in order) South Africa, England, and Pakistan. I would put everyone else in the same boat below these three. Would love it if the Windies can pull up a few surprises though. They've got a strong side with Gayle, Bravo, Pollard, Sammy and Sarwan, all very good.

I do not expect India to do well at all. No chance whatsoever on those swinging, seaming, bouncing English wickets after months of playing in dust bowls. The only chance we have is against the Pakistanis in Egbaston, which is known to be a flat one that can aid our spinners. But then there's Ajmal.....


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So now that the Indian Premier Match Fixing League is done with, more relevant tournaments can be focused upon. First up, there is the Champions Trophy starting June 6th in England.

My favourites to win this one are (in order) South Africa, England, and Pakistan. I would put everyone else in the same boat below these three. Would love it if the Windies can pull up a few surprises though. They've got a strong side with Gayle, Bravo, Pollard, Sammy and Sarwan, all very good.

I do not expect India to do well at all. No chance whatsoever on those swinging, seaming, bouncing English wickets after months of playing in dust bowls. The only chance we have is against the Pakistanis in Egbaston, which is known to be a flat one that can aid our spinners. But then there's Ajmal.....


What say, Spider?


I don't expect much from Indian batsmen on seaming English pitches. However, it would be nice to see Bhuvneshwar Kumar bowling on those pitches. I wish Praveen was also a part of the team.
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My favourites to win this one are (in order) South Africa, England, and Pakistan.


You mean the same Pakistan who've barely scraped up a win against Ireland in 2 ODIs this past week? (1 tie and 1 narrow win thanks to the bowler Wahab Riaz coming up with a crucial 40-odd). Their batting line-up is brittle - Farhat, Hafeez, Malik and Kamran Akmal are tried and tested failures and ain't gonna scare anybody. Can't see them chasing anything upward of 220, or even that's pushing it.

We'll be fine. Kohli, Raina and Dhoni had a great ODI leg in that 2011 tour of England, not sure what to expect from Dhawan and Vijay, and I hope we don't play Jadeja. Kumar and Ashwin make our bowling line-up look okay too.

Realistically, England have the best chance should KP be fit and firing. Even South Africa are missing Smith and Kallis - though they're certified chokers so it might be all for the good. Australia like us have a few chinks in their line-up (Bailey, Hughes, Wade) but have proven performers in Watson, Warner and Clarke so it's a lottery with them too. Similar with Lanka - there's no quality ODI side around these days.

But let me go left field and say New Zealand will win! McCullum, Taylor, Williamson, Vettori, Southee and Boult is a very strong core they got in their line-up, they're not to be underestimated and they always do well in world tournaments anyway.

Who've I missed out on then? West Indies? Nah, the Pollards and Narines are good enough for the T20 stuff, can't see them picking up a 50-over tournament. Maybe if they can ride on Gayle's heroics for three games in a row, even then it would be a flukey win...

At least we're back to international cricket.
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We'll be fine. Kohli, Raina and Dhoni had a great ODI leg in that 2011 tour of England,

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A series we lost 3-0 . If not for the rain gods, it would have probably been 5-0

The only consistent performer we had in that series was Dhoni with scores of 33, 6, 69, 78 and 50. That's 50 + in three out of five innings.

Raina managed 38, 40, 21, 84, 15 and Kohli 55, 9, 7, 16 and 107. Both flashes in the pan.

Not bad, but definitely not great IMO.

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They have been choking a lot less ever since Kirsten started coaching them. I would still rate them as favourites, the absence of Smith and Kallis notwithstanding.
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We'll be fine. Kohli, Raina and Dhoni had a great ODI leg in that 2011 tour of England,

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Raina managed 38, 40, 21, 84, 15 and Kohli 55, 9, 7, 16 and 107. Both flashes in the pan.

Not bad, but definitely not great IMO.



True, but I am sure we can all agree that Kohli has matured as a batsman it the 2 years since that series. Alas, the same can't be said about Raina.
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Only Highlights for me..... Smile
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PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2013 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The only consistent performer we had in that series was Dhoni with scores of 33, 6, 69, 78 and 50. That's 50 + in three out of five innings.

Raina managed 38, 40, 21, 84, 15 and Kohli 55, 9, 7, 16 and 107. Both flashes in the pan.


Those are good one-day scores, especially overseas. Expecting anything more is just being unrealistic.

Our batting clearly wasn't the problem on that tour. Even the likes of Parthiv Patel smacked a few.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Uz3a7-aW9k

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8VDbssMNVE

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They have been choking a lot less ever since Kirsten started coaching them. I would still rate them as favourites, the absence of Smith and Kallis notwithstanding.


Kirsten's gone now, and they've got an interim coach. They did lose a series to New Zealand while he was there, at home too. And could only beat Pakistan 3-2, also at home. They're clearly not the best one-day side around.
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Overly satisfying start for me!

Brilliant stuff from Kohli as usual, but then again, what a return for Karthik!
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Overly satisfying start for me!

Brilliant stuff from Kohli as usual, but then again, what a return for Karthik!


Like I mentioned, I started a thread on the subject on a Pakistani forum via my 'real' account:

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showthread.php?t=178813

Wins against Lanka = Pointless.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spiderguy252 wrote:

Like I mentioned, I started a thread on the subject on a Pakistani forum via my 'real' account:

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showthread.php?t=178813

Wins against Lanka = Pointless.


So going by what you said in that thread, you do agree that South Africa are better than us after all. Wink
Incidentally, did you notice who the most economical bowler in the match was? Ravindra Jadeja! Everyone else got hit all over the park!

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Overly satisfying start for me!

Heard some talk that the English are deliberately preparing turners for the warm up matches and greentops for the real games.

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But let me go left field and say New Zealand will win!


The Kiwis are handing it out to the English Shocked Will be interesting to see if they can keep up the performance in the Champions Trophy.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The_Goat wrote:
So going by what you said in that thread, you do agree that South Africa are better than us after all. Wink


Oh trust me, it's best to underplay your team on there. The biteback should you lose after making a lot of hoopla tends to get vicious, towards any nation's fan who indulges so. Normally it's them Pakistanis who get emotional after a win/loss and threads like these emerge (this one when they tied to Ireland last week):

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showthread.php?t=178477

But the general unspoken rule applies to everybody. Wink

The_Goat wrote:
Incidentally, did you notice who the most economical bowler in the match was? Ravindra Jadeja! Everyone else got hit all over the park!


Regardless, I still don't want him anywhere near the team, and certainly not in England. Bits and pieces player, him.
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