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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 12:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

202 Is the target and now its 29-2......hmmm
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 3:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You've got to feel for The Lions.

But I'm just going to laugh at them. In an Evil way. Twisted Evil

I know its very rude, but when they say 'WE ARE THE FEARSOME LIONS' and loose every final, this is what comes into my head:


Shikhar Dhawan was consistent in the CT13, but now I think we should give it to the other opener, Rohit Sharma Smile

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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202 Is the target and now its 29-2......hmmm


It was a thrilling final last night. 15 runs of last over was the situation, when MSD was not over-hauled and again rescued India from being defeated in the finals.Very Happy

Unlike Ganguly, Dhoni has a better success rate in the finals. Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WOW! What a match! Gotta love test cricket!!! Very Happy Beats the pyjama parties anyday!

http://www.espncricinfo.com/the-ashes-2013/engine/match/566932.html


Loved the way the Aussies fought back. I thought it was all over for them when the were 117 for 9 in their first innings. They pulled it to the very end. Great performance!
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And that's all the fight Australia are going to show for the next nine tests, but Agar is a good find.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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And that's all the fight Australia are going to show for the next nine tests, but Agar is a good find.


It was quite well fought. 14 runs ain' t much. Anything could have happened.

I didn't think England were looking like a really superior side at any point of time, apart from Bell and KP in the second innings. They relied pretty much on Anderson.

But Australia does have some work to do on its batting. Maybe dropping Ed Cowan in favour of Khwaja is an idea. The guy couldn't bat at all!
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was a thrilling end. This test match bought back the memories of Edgbaston Ashes Test in 2005 when Warne, Lee and Kasprowicz nearly took the match away from England when they had to chase 150 runs or more. Smile

Australia still had the chance of winning the match had it not been for the DRS which let them down twice. Australia used it for those decisions that won't go their way. Thereby DRS was not available when it mattered the most.

AFA team changes goes for both the teams, I feel Bresnan should replace Finn and for Australia Warner should be given another chance.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Australia still had the chance of winning the match had it not been for the DRS which let them down twice. Australia used it for those decisions that won't go their way. Thereby DRS was not available when it mattered the most.


That was entirely Michael Clarke's fault. He ought not to have used the review for his wicket, when he probably knew he was out.

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AFA team changes goes for both the teams, I feel Bresnan should replace Finn and for Australia Warner should be given another chance.


True about Warner. Australia should also consider giving another chance to Simon Katich, who has been scoring centuries in First Class matches. It is unfortunate that his argument with Clarke ended his test career. He is an excellent player.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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That was entirely Michael Clarke's fault. He ought not to have used the review for his wicket, when he probably knew he was out.


Looks like the DRS woes continues for the Australians. They do not seem to use it smartly. As a result Chris Rogers was unable to review his decision because only one was remaining. Watson made the mistake of using it when he was clearly LBW.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The current total of Australia is 94 for 6 and are staring at following on. Smile

Australian batting line-up is looking brittle. Their top order batsmen are not scoring the runs. It is a dramatic turn around for a team that was a dominant force few years ago in all forms of cricket. Shocked

I feel the success of a team depends only on their bowlers and if they are regular wicket takers, than their batting line-up looks much stronger.

Example: The current Australian batsmen are more defensive than their predecessors, purely because the present bowling line-up is not that strong as it was during the time of McDermott, Reifel, McGrath, Lee, Gillespie, Kasparowicz and Warne. As a result Australian batsmen were used to attacking even in test matches.

Similarly, West Indies is another team that comes to my mind which were dominant when they had the best bowling line-ups in the 70s and 80s.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 12:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I feel the success of a team depends only on their bowlers and if they are regular wicket takers, than their batting line-up looks much stronger.

Example: The current Australian batsmen are more defensive than their predecessors, purely because the present bowling line-up is not that strong as it was during the time of McDermott, Reifel, McGrath, Lee, Gillespie, Kasparowicz and Warne. As a result Australian batsmen were used to attacking even in test matches.

Similarly, West Indies is another team that comes to my mind which were dominant when they had the best bowling line-ups in the 70s and 80s.


You musn't forget that earlier, Australia also had batsmen like Waugh, Langer, Gilchrist, Hayden, Ponting and Hussey. These guys could murder any opposition, bowling attack or not.

To be fair, the Aussie bowlers have been quite good in this series. Siddle, Pattinson and Agar were pretty decent at Trent Bridge and Harris and the part timer, Smith did a very good job in the first innings at Lords. Siddle seems to be doing well in this match too. They can only do so much.

The biggest issue confronting Australia is with the batting. Their most experienced batsmen - Shane Watson and Michael Clarke, have both been flop shows. So there has been a lot of pressure on the others like Hughes, Rogers, Haddin, Agar and co to step up, and they have been merely flashes in the pan.

I still think that having an experienced chap like Simon Katich would do the Aussies a lot of good. They should also seriously consider bringing back David Warner.

But all this is for the future games. The present one at Lords for all intent and purposes, has already been won by England.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 2:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You musn't forget that earlier, Australia also had batsmen like Waugh, Langer, Gilchrist, Hayden, Ponting and Hussey. These guys could murder any opposition, bowling attack or not.

The biggest issue confronting Australia is with the batting. Their most experienced batsmen - Shane Watson and Michael Clarke, have both been flop shows. So there has been a lot of pressure on the others like Hughes, Rogers, Haddin, Agar and co to step up, and they have been merely flashes in the pan.

I still think that having an experienced chap like Simon Katich would do the Aussies a lot of good. They should also seriously consider bringing back David Warner.


It will be tough for the Australian Cricket Board to find the ideal replacements for those batting legends that you have mentioned.

At this moment, I feel Australia are going through a rebuilding phase of finding the best line-ups in bowling and especially in batting. They should complete the process before the next Ashes series starts later this year, in their home town.

Currently, Australia has good fast bowlers in the playing 11 and in the reserves. Ben Hilfenaous and Pat Cummins are also good but they are often injury prone which is a cause of concern to the team. Also they have to train Agar to improve on his spinning and find another good leg spinner, who can take wickets in any condition.

Michael Clarke and the Australian cricket board should settle their differences with Katich and Warner and should include them in the team. When things are not working that well with the present batting line-up, they can try these experienced batsmen anyway.

As far as this Ashes series goes, Australian chances are obsolete except that they can look to avoid a series whitewash.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 12:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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And that's all the fight Australia are going to show for the next nine tests, but Agar is a good find.


Tolja, they're getting pummeled and it'll only get worse and worse as time goes on.

My 14-0 prediction is still on. Razz
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 1:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What a massacre! Never seen the Aussies lose like that! What a mess!


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Never doubted that, however it would have been nicer to see a fight to death, not a one sided, boring affair which it is turning out to be.
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These days fast bowlers from all countries are facing injury worries. As a result they are not able to play the entire series.

Australia is facing the issue right now with James Pattinson ruled out for the entire series because of back injury. It is unfortunate for them and now it looks certain that they are going to have a tough time in this Ashes series.

I hope James Faulkner can be a better replacement for Pattinson.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 11:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Australia's pacemen are especially made of glass though. Remember Cummins from the South African tour of 2011, who was supposed to be the next big thing? Well, he's been injured ever since.

The only one who seems to go okay is Siddle, but he's all huff and puff barring the last game where he actually took some wickets.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 11:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Australia's pacemen are especially made of glass though. Remember Cummins from the South African tour of 2011, who was supposed to be the next big thing? Well, he's been injured ever since.

The only one who seems to go okay is Siddle, but he's all huff and puff barring the last game where he actually took some wickets.


Pat Cummins, "the next big thing" based on just one test. Just like Cheteshwar Pujara , "the next Rahul Dravid", based on two series in India?

Sometimes I'm amazed at the gorillas in the media! Sorry, don't want to insult gorillas!

And Siddle is no huff and puff. Although he's no Dale Steyn, 161 wickets in 43 tests at an average of 28, with 8 5 wicket hauls is not bad by any standard. He is also ranked at no 5 on the ICC test bowlers list right now, alongside Jimmy Anderson!
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Australian pacemen like Brett Lee, Shaun Tait and Pat Cummins have bowled at the speed of 140 to 150 kmph. All of them have been injury prone. Lee's career was cut short and also of Tait in international cricket.

I guess with the amount of cricket being played these days, it is important for fast bowlers to concentrate less on speed and more on accuracy.

Dale Steyn is an exception of a fast bowler, bowling at a speed of more than 140 kmph. But it remains to be seen as to for how long he can continue bowling at that pace before he is forced to slow down. At the moment, he is injured and not being part of the team playing in Sri Lanka.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

India playing Zimbabwe seems one sided....
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 12:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Dale Steyn is an exception of a fast bowler, bowling at a speed of more than 140 kmph. But it remains to be seen as to for how long he can continue bowling at that pace before he is forced to slow down. At the moment, he is injured and not being part of the team playing in Sri Lanka.


If you watch Steyn closely, you'll discover that he saves his best kinds of spells for tests, and especially within South Africa. He gauges down the gear elsewhere, and in LoIs, the IPL, and the like. His first spell in an ODI is always slow on pace, and should the game get tight later on, he brings out his complete arsenal of deliveries for the later overs. It's how he plies his trade, hence explaining his rather lopsided average of 29 or so in ODIs, as opposed to 23 in tests.

Somebody like Malinga on the other hand has splurged on ODIs, played all of them (can't blame him, SLC hate tests) and overexposed his technique to one and all, and conveniently broken down from the longer formats in the process.

It's the survival of the fittest game all over again.
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Finally, the Michael Clarke we all know ! Good show by Rogers and Smith too.

I believe England missed a trick by not including Panesar, who has such an outstanding record at Old Trafford.

The match is interestingly poised!
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If Australia win this one, the series is still alive. That said, the Ashes would have really opened up if Australia could get the 13 more runs for victory in the first test and went 1-0 up. That would have really sent heads rolling in the England camp.
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I believe England missed a trick by not including Panesar, who has such an outstanding record at Old Trafford.


The issue for England will be, is to drop who from the team, so that Panesar can be included.

They cannot afford to drop Bresnan because he is a good all-rounder and Bairstow also is a good batsman. If there is a need for another spinner in the 2nd innings, then England has the option of using Joe Root. He had taken important wickets in the previous test match.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I believe England missed a trick by not including Panesar, who has such an outstanding record at Old Trafford.


The issue for England will be, is to drop who from the team, so that Panesar can be included.


Drop Stuart Broad. He probably is the only player in the England team who can be dropped based on current form.
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I believe England missed a trick by not including Panesar, who has such an outstanding record at Old Trafford.


The issue for England will be, is to drop who from the team, so that Panesar can be included.


Drop Stuart Broad. He probably is the only player in the England team who can be dropped based on current form.


It is highly unlikely that Stuart Broad will be dropped. He has performed well in this series so far both with bat and ball.
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The issue for England will be, is to drop who from the team, so that Panesar can be included.

They cannot afford to drop Bresnan because he is a good all-rounder and Bairstow also is a good batsman. If there is a need for another spinner in the 2nd innings, then England has the option of using Joe Root. He had taken important wickets in the previous test match.


I think that for this test, Bairstow could have made way for Panesar. England already have a strong batting lineup in Cook, Root, Trott, Bell and KP. Prior, Broad and Bresnan can also throw the bat at things, so there is not a lot of value addition to the batting with Bairstow. Having Panesar and Swann bowling from opposite ends however, would have been quite devastating.
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Australia has proved once again that they are not push overs. They have bounced back hard in this test match. With 331 to chase on the last day, England has no chance of settling for a draw let alone win the match.

The weather seem to be ok. Trott's batting woes seem to continue. I guess it is good for this Ashes series that Australia have fought back and made it interesting. Smile
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The weather seem to be ok. Trott's batting woes seem to continue. I guess it is good for this Ashes series that Australia have fought back and made it interesting. Smile


It looks like a washout, and with it go Australia's chances of regaining the Ashes in England.

Gotta feel for Clarkey!
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The weather seem to be ok. Trott's batting woes seem to continue. I guess it is good for this Ashes series that Australia have fought back and made it interesting. Smile


It looks like a washout, and with it go Australia's chances of regaining the Ashes in England.

Gotta feel for Clarkey!


Yup. Australia were the dominant team and they deserved to be the winners in this test match. Pity that it was not meant to be. Luck seem to have deserted Australia in the 1st and 3rd test match.

But they can still try to win the next 2 test matches and draw the series.
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Australia is in the driver's seat in the 4th test at Dhuram. They had successful useage of DRS system and Lyon spun well by taking 4 wickets. Smile
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England have won the Ashes series. It was a close game in Durham. Stuart Broad was excellent by taking 5 wickets in each innings. Very Happy

Clarke can say what he wants but Australia is at their rock bottom. They need to restructure their team quickly.
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England have won the Ashes series. It was a close game in Durham. Stuart Broad was excellent by taking 5 wickets in each innings. Very Happy

Clarke can say what he wants but Australia is at their rock bottom. They need to restructure their team quickly.


England had already won the series after the previous test. There can be no draws in an Ashes series. This time they have only rubbed it in.

Disappointing Aussies. They should have won this in a trot, after being 101 for no loss in the second innings
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In other news,

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/630769.html

We should be relatively pleased with our effort.
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Not a big fan of the shorter formats, but I'm looking forward to the India-Australia series next month.

India are very good, but the Aussies aren't a pushover in the shorter formats either. Going to be a cracker, IMO.
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Not a big fan of the shorter formats, but I'm looking forward to the India-Australia series next month.

India are very good, but the Aussies aren't a pushover in the shorter formats either. Going to be a cracker, IMO.


It's seven ODIs and Australia's minds are on the Ashes. They'll rest half their side, including Clarke - who's already confirmed his absence.
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Finally, the inevitable has happened. Sachin Tendulkar is going to hung up the boots after completing his 200th test match this november.

Well, it has been a wonderful feeling for me to have grown up watching Tendulkar play cricket. I'm a cricket fan because of him. Smile
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Very valuable test player, farewell.

I think Kohli will be pushed up one spot to #4 and maybe Rahane gets a permanent game? We'll know during the South Africa tour.
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Well played, Sachin.

However, at the risk of being called a non believer, I think this is 2 years too late!
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why does Bangladesh's test overalls have the Sahara logo on it?!

And yeah, goodbye Sachin!
He wasn't doing too well of recent sadly.
Sachin leaves cricket, while Maria de Villota leaves us all in the motorsport forum. So yeah, not a good few days for me in the sporting arena Sad

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