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PostPosted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Why does Bangladesh's test overalls have the Sahara logo on it?!


Subroto Roy's been sponsoring them since late-2012.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 2:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sad to see Sachin go, but he must. It happens to everyone.

Sachin is the last of a very special club of players, under whom India evolved from a minnow to the most powerful entity in World Cricket. To many like me, who were born in the same year as him, the rise of Tendulkar symbolizes the rise of India itself.

I wonder what he will do post retirement. It will probably be as hard for him not to pad up and walk out on to the crease, as it will be for us, who have seen him do it and win games for India so many times, for the past so many years .

Whatever one may say about him, I will always remember Sachin Tendulkar as a master destroyer of bowling attacks. That he did so with so much humility about him, much like his former colleagues Rahul Dravid and V.V.S .Laxman, should make him the ideal role model for the youth today.

Farewell Sachin!
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 8:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Sachin is the last of a very special club of players, under whom India evolved from a minnow to the most powerful entity in World Cricket.


That's right, the 281 gang.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What a One day match we witnessed in Jaipur. India chasing a target of 360 against Australia was amazing. Shocked It has to be one of the best run chase by India and that too with 6 overs to spare.

I enjoyed the innings of Kholi and Rohit.Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Holy hell my Sri Lankan friends would be fuming right now!
-Top 5 successful run chases have had Aussie on the losing side. (in ODI)
-Rohit's highest individual score. He was at the crease all the time! Plus that cramp, too.
-Kohli is the fastest Indian to get an ODI hundred.

Edit - Shame on Australia. They should've scored more so India could've broken the world record Laughing

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Before this match started, commentators were talking about Australia batting first against India in the last 27 ODIs and have won 26 times.

Well after this match, I suspect Bailey would want to field first because he won't like to be in the illustrious lists of Aussie captains who could not defend a 360 type total. Laughing

The dew factor is going to play a key role for the remainder of the series.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The one thing that should be on everyone's mind: Does India have someone with just 16 ODIs under his belt, who can effect a turnaround like Faulkner did yesterday? The Aussies needed 14 an over at one point !

and please, isn't it time we either dropped Ishant Sharma or sent him off to some county to hone his skills?
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 11:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What an amazing double ton by Rohit Sharma. Today, I was privileged to see this magnificent innings at KSCA stadium in Bangalore. Very Happy He was scoring sixes and fours throughout the innings. He also made up for the mistake of getting Kohli run out for no score.

The match was equally awesome, almost going to the wire. Faulkner achieved his personal milestone of scoring a maiden century. At one stage, when he, Watson and Maxwell were going big guns, I thought we would loose. But then we managed to win because Australia lost early wickets. Smile

This entire series has been only a run feast and has not shown a good challenge between bat and bowl, except for the 1st ODI in Pune.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 12:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lucky you, Sreenivas Smile Let us take a moment from discrediting some batsmen with the flat-pitches-short-boundaries banter as on cricinfo.com (while not misplaced, let us also give credit to the batsmen for the effort too). Rohit, Dhoni, Shikhar, Maxwell, Falukner, Watson. Ashwin bowled well after a while, Jadeja was his smart self (even in the face of the tremendous assault) and Shami Ahmed is both quick as well as an intelligent bowler. Vinay seems to have lost a good bit of his variations and guile, given his limited speed: I wonder, why. Ishant may find the Oz pitches more suited to his style, but will he get his confidence back? I hope Umesh comes back with a bang, and Bhuvaneshwar (who bowled well today) gets back his confidence with his smart pitch-ups and big swing. I wonder when Varun Aaron will be in a position to join the team back.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 12:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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This entire series has been only a run feast and has not shown a good challenge between bat and bowl, except for the 1st ODI in Pune.


This entire series has been a sheer waste of time and talent. Apart from a few moneybags in the BCCI, ACB and some dimwitted fans for whom cricket is all about hitting sixes, nobody has benefited.

In any case, I'll say Congratulations Australia! None of the so-called Indian 'whitewash pundits' anticipated a 3-2 result, and the Aussies have shown once again how they can rattle the opponent even when everything is going against them.

India need to get their act together really quickly, particularly in the bowling dept. Besides Rohit, Dhawan and Kohli, the rest of the side has been comprised of tourists in this series. Ravi Ashwin has been mediocre even on tracks that have been made for him, and the much touted Bhuvaneswar Kumar looks like he is on the downward slope already. and don't get me started on Ishant Sharma ('I shan't take a wicket' Sharma, as Spiderguy once put it).
That said, I liked the way Shami Ahmed bowled today, and Vinay Kumar looks promising but will the team management give them a continuous run?

After the (meaningless) WI series, India is going to be touring the fast bowling paradises of the world in SA, NZ and finally England next summer.
We need to work on our bowling attack and India is not the place to do it.

It is a tragedy that the SA series is being curtailed thanks to the idiot egos at the BCCI. It would have helped our young players hone their skills against fast bowling immensely.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 7:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bhuvaneshwar possibly needs some support and needs to be persisted with, given his pitching up and large swing, which will not quite work that well in conditions such as those in view in this series. Ishant possibly needs some help: gone are those days of his landing it on the seam, bowling with the seam upright, and he has lost his pace again, and a lot of his confidence. I think Vinay is also short of confidence: his smart thinking had made him an ideal bowler towards the end, at one time. I wonder if Zaheer has regained some of his earlier form and rhythm: Sharada Ugra's cricinfo feature suggests that he may have got a raw deal right now. What do others feel about this one?
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 7:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Lucky you, Sreenivas Smile Let us take a moment from discrediting some batsmen with the flat-pitches-short-boundaries banter as on cricinfo.com (while not misplaced, let us also give credit to the batsmen for the effort too). Rohit, Dhoni, Shikhar, Maxwell, Falukner, Watson. Ashwin bowled well after a while, Jadeja was his smart self (even in the face of the tremendous assault) and Shami Ahmed is both quick as well as an intelligent bowler. Vinay seems to have lost a good bit of his variations and guile, given his limited speed: I wonder, why. Ishant may find the Oz pitches more suited to his style, but will he get his confidence back? I hope Umesh comes back with a bang, and Bhuvaneshwar (who bowled well today) gets back his confidence with his smart pitch-ups and big swing. I wonder when Varun Aaron will be in a position to join the team back.
Cheers, Sumantra.


As usual, a very in-dept and amazing analysis. Thank you Sir
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shivendrashukla wrote:
As usual, a very in-dept and amazing analysis. Thank you Sir
Come on, Sir - there is very little to be seen and known perched atop my armchair!
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I find it rather sad that people are cursing Rohit Sharma because he got Virat Kohli out last night. His 209 isn't being appreciated.
They are taking the arrogant way.
No wonder people from other countries in this subcontinent hate us.

Anyways.

What a show of 'fireworks' from Rohit Sharma last night! That lad has improved big time after being dropped from the 2011 World Cup squad, and of course, captaining the Mumbai Indians team! I'm sure he has pretty much silenced his critics by now, and I hope he does do well in the future games, and hopefully gets a test debut while Sachin leaves for good.

Sumantra sir.
That is an amazing write up! I never knew you were into cricket this much! Shocked This comes as a welcome surprise! I do hope to read more from you, along with the trip reports!

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I find it rather sad that people are cursing Rohit Sharma because he got Virat Kohli out last night. His 209 isn't being appreciated.
They are taking the arrogant way.
No wonder people from other countries in this subcontinent hate us.

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Even Virat Kohli had forgotten about the run out of his and was so happy to see Rohit Sharma achieve this milestone. Virat along with his team mates applauded Rohit Sharma when he scored double ton.

Our media and some of the cricket fans always like picking the negatives and not be happy for Rohit Sharma's feat.

Rohit's promotion to the top order has also proved to be good as he has shown consistency and maturity in his batting. He along with Dawan form a good opening pair in the ODIs.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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This entire series has been a sheer waste of time and talent. Apart from a few moneybags in the BCCI, ACB and some dimwitted fans for whom cricket is all about hitting sixes, nobody has benefited.

India need to get their act together really quickly, particularly in the bowling dept. Besides Rohit, Dhawan and Kohli, the rest of the side has been comprised of tourists in this series. Bhuvaneswar Kumar looks like he is on the downward slope already. and don't get me started on Ishant Sharma ('I shan't take a wicket' Sharma, as Spiderguy once put it).
That said, I liked the way Shami Ahmed bowled today, and Vinay Kumar looks promising but will the team management give them a continuous run?

After the (meaningless) WI series, India is going to be touring the fast bowling paradises of the world in SA, NZ and finally England next summer.
We need to work on our bowling attack and India is not the place to do it.

It is a tragedy that the SA series is being curtailed thanks to the idiot egos at the BCCI. It would have helped our young players hone their skills against fast bowling immensely.


India should focus on fast bowlers that can bowl at a speed of 145 miles/ph like most of the other fast bowlers in Aus, SA, Eng and even in Pak. At that speed rate, bowlers can get good bounce and swing rather than those bowling at 135 miles/ph.

At the moment Shami Ahmed is bowling at a faster pace and bowling yorkers regularly. But it remains to be seen, whether he can continue like this for a longer period. Injury has always been the case for Indian bowlers and have reduced their speed thereon. Ishant Sharma was one of them who has lost pace due to injury and therefore has not become threatening anymore.

AFAS, the overseas series goes, I would not pick Suresh Raina and Yuraj Singh in the test matches as they have shown their inability to play the short pitch deliveries. It was evident in the India vs Australia ODI series.

BCCI has become a dictatorial organization. I would like to see other cricketing boards and ICC not yield to their dictat because it is only going to kill the game. Personally, I would wish SA board had reduced only the ODI series against India and not the test series. There is no competition at all with 2 test match series. It has become a common scene in most tours, except the Ashes series.
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While I agree with Jishnu in not discrediting Rohit's success simply because the pitches were flat and boundaries small, I do not quite agree with Sreenivas's assessment in India focussing on 140kmph+ bowlers. Remember that Zaheer at his lethal best was when he had dropped his pace from the initial days, before Srinath's retirement. Zaheer at his peak occassionally let one rip at 140+, but his variations (including the famous `knuckle ball') and getting the ball to reverse at a much slower pace (even in the late 120s) brought him just rewards. Bowlers such as Bhuvaneshwar pitch the new ball up a bit more than others, and get some good swing - this is again coming into vogue as an effective weapon. I am not very sure if he will get much purchase in Australia, where traditionally those who drop it on the seam at just short of a good-length spot - at a decent pace - have got good dividends (at most grounds, except for Sydney, of course), and of course, there have been exceptions - Karsan Ghavri could hardly be called a `pace bowler', but he had some nice spells to show for his Oz exploits. Agarkar's 6-for comes to memory, so does Ishant leaving Ponting perplexed. Kapil Dev in his days was reasonably quick, but not an out-and-out express bowler. He was successful in Australia with his swing, and pitching the ball in the right areas. I wonder about India's current crop of 140+ bowlers: Umesh, Shami and Varun Aaron (who is unfortunately injured). Will Umesh and Shami find the right lengths? When the much slower Vinay came into the scene, he was known as a good limited-overs bowler, more so towards the end overs, where he could keep it tight. His confidence is not fantastic right now. Ishant is hardly high on confidence, and it shows in his bowling. Sreesanth at his peak was not just reasonably quick, he could land it beautifully on the seam and move it around, and reverse it well. As for the spinners, I think Ashwin should do well (his confidence seems to have gone a bit low), and the hard-working Ojha and the street-smart Jadeja should be a good force, though except for Sydney, Indian spinners have traditionally not found much purchase in Australia (with notable exceptions, of course). I wish I could watch cricket regularly, to be able to comment on these matters better, but I have been too addicted to cricinfo.com to offer slightly unbiased comments. Of course, Dileep Premachandran, Siddharth Ravindran, George Binoy and the like are good commentators, and their analysis and editorials are a joy to read, and behold.
Cheers, Sumantra.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 12:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The problem is that ODIs were fun when they used to seemingly be mini test matches in the past.

Now they're just long T20s.
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The final test for sachin begins........what a carrier.....
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A fantastic speech by Anil Kumble. Must read

http://www.espncricinfo.com/india/content/story/688255.html


Great advice he gives to the BCCI about power with responsibility. I hope they listen.
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The final test for sachin begins........what a carrier.....
While that may have been a typo Meljoe, it is quite ironic that he indeed carried the hopes of millions on Indians on his shoulders, and carried India on his able shoulders to victory almost single-handedly in many matches.
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The final test for sachin begins........what a carrier.....
While that may have been a typo Meljoe, it is quite ironic that he indeed carried the hopes of millions on Indians on his shoulders, and carried India on his able shoulders to victory almost single-handedly in many matches.
Cheers, Sumantra.


It was a typo..... Very Happy What was special about sachin was the shuffling between music and cricket.........a boring schedule but then somethings have to be sacrificed to be famous and he did just that.
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Feel real fortunate to have seen his final 50 at the grounds, lot of fond memories of his playing days in my growing up years

Sadly cricket for me wont have the same passion it did a few years ago with most of the players like Dravid Kumble Sachin Ganguly retired and the likes of Harbhajan Sehwag Zahir Khan and Yuvraj dropped or out of form

Thanks for the memories guys

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Feel real fortunate to have seen his final 50 at the grounds, lot of fond memories of his playing days in my growing up years

Sadly cricket for me wont have the same passion it did a few years ago with most of the players like Dravid Kumble Sachin Ganguly retired and the likes of Harbhajan Sehwag Zahir Khan and Yuvraj dropped or out of form

Thanks for the memories guys

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True, that generation was very special. They played very well, and were very humble and gentlemanly about it.

It is sad how arrogantly the likes of Virat Kohli and Ravindra Jadeja behave nowadays, with whatever little they have achieved. I thought Shikhar Dhawan was a decent chap, who made it to the top after a long and difficult struggle. After seeing how he made fun of Shane Watson's injury, it looks like it has all gone into his head.

Eulogizing the likes of Tendulkar and Dravid is all fine and dandy, but it s rather pointless if people cannot their emulate their humility and passion for the game.
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In addition to them there were many in the same era , I guess only Gayle Sangakara and Jaywardene , Graeme smith still playing who let their achievements or performance rather than their mouth do the talking

Ambrose, Walsh ,Pollock, Rohdes, Akram , Younis, Klusener , Jayasuirya, Mark Greatbatch, Stephen Fleming, Nathan Astle, Chris Crains, Brian McMillan, to name just a few whom I would wake up at odd hours to see their performace

I doubt there is anyone left who will evoke that passion for the game in me

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In addition to them there were many in the same era , I guess only Gayle Sangakara and Jaywardene , Graeme smith still playing who let their achievements or performance rather than their mouth do the talking

Ambrose, Walsh ,Pollock, Rohdes, Akram , Younis, Klusener , Jayasuirya, Mark Greatbatch, Stephen Fleming, Nathan Astle, Chris Crains, Brian McMillan, to name just a few whom I would wake up at odd hours to see their performace

I doubt there is anyone left who will evoke that passion for the game in me

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To include few more to that lists are Kallis, Hooper and Gary Kirsten.

I'am surprised you have not mentioned some Australian players also who were consistent performers and at the same time aggressive only on the field but not off the field. Exceptional Aussie players of 90's like McGrath, Steve Waugh, Mark Taylor, Justin Langer, David Boon, Allan Border and Michael Hussey were the ones whom I really loved to watch all the time.
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I'am surprised you have not mentioned some Australian players also who were consistent and at the same time aggressive only on the field but not off the field. Exceptional Aussie players of 90's like McGrath, Steve Waugh, Mark Taylor, Justin Langer, David Boon, Allan Border and Michael Hussey were the ones whom I really loved to watch all the time.


With good reason, I suppose. While the Aussies of the 1990s and early 2000s were good players with passion for the game, their behavior on and off the field made them the most despised team in the history of cricket.
People simply loved it when that generation of Aussie players retired and their replacements weren't as good.
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Nothing against the Aussies, I specially enjoyed Steve Waugh, McGrath, and the fatty Boon. Border was on his way out when I started watching ,
Taylor was a level headed captain but Ponting the less said the better [though a brilliant batsman]

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With good reason, I suppose. While the Aussies of the 1990s and early 2000s were good players with passion for the game, their behavior on and off the field made them the most despised team in the history of cricket.
People simply loved it when that generation of Aussie players retired and their replacements weren't as good.


Yeah especially the ego of blokes like Ponting and Symonds,

Best was before the 2011 Australia tour of South Africa started, there was an advert doing the rounds

It had an animated Steyn telling an animated Clarke ,

Steym...What do you call a great Australian cricketer
Clarke.... What
Steyn..... Retired Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
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Nothing against the Aussies, I specially enjoyed Steve Waugh, McGrath, and the fatty Boon. Border was on his way out when I started watching ,
Taylor was a level headed captain but Ponting the less said the better [though a brilliant batsman]

Karan


Ponting was never in my favourite books and thank God he could not better Sachin's records. He was always in controversy and was obsessed with only winning. Therefore, was ready to cross the line.

Symonds was not disciplined and had issues with Bhajji.

AFAS, Indian players goes, the 1st rank for bad behaviour goes to S.Shreesanth. Followed by, Praveen Kumar and Kholi.
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While Tendulkar and Dravid scored their thousands of (esp) test runs against all high quaility bowlers, I think the likes of Gavaskar, Vishwanath ,Vengsarkar had to contend with a slightly higher level of quality bowlers, especially WI, Australia and England.

It would be really interesting to see how SRT and the Wall would have responded to Garner, Marshall, Holding, Roberts, Lillee, Thompson, Bob Willis etc..or Imran for that matter..
I think they wud have struggled.. Ganguly would have simply hopped about , blinking all the time.
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While Tendulkar and Dravid scored their thousands of (esp) test runs against all high quaility bowlers, I think the likes of Gavaskar, Vishwanath ,Vengsarkar had to contend with a slightly higher level of quality bowlers, especially WI, Australia and England.

It would be really interesting to see how SRT and the Wall would have responded to Garner, Marshall, Holding, Roberts, Lillee, Thompson, Bob Willis etc..or Imran for that matter..
I think they wud have struggled.. Ganguly would have simply hopped about , blinking all the time.


While I do not debate much with you on this, however the same can be said about them, would they be able to charge the spinner or chase 350 in 50 overs.

gavaskar while good was one of the slowest players of the ball [few exceptions obviously]
Similarly a Geoffrey boycott who faced the first ever ball in an ODI never ever hit a 6
In effect you can only be judged on your competition

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 1:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ssbmat wrote:
While Tendulkar and Dravid scored their thousands of (esp) test runs against all high quaility bowlers, I think the likes of Gavaskar, Vishwanath ,Vengsarkar had to contend with a slightly higher level of quality bowlers, especially WI, Australia and England.

It would be really interesting to see how SRT and the Wall would have responded to Garner, Marshall, Holding, Roberts, Lillee, Thompson, Bob Willis etc..or Imran for that matter..
I think they wud have struggled.. Ganguly would have simply hopped about , blinking all the time.


I am inclined to agree, given how cricket has been increasingly and unfairly favouring the batsmen these days.

Earlier, the pitches weren't curated as much as they are nowadays, so one never knew what to expect till the first ball was bowled. Besides, batsmen back then didn't wear helmets and could, and often did, lose a couple of teeth or had their skulls chipped if they couldn't judge a ball properly. One needed to be brave and talented in equal measure, to be a good batsman in those days.

I'd like to believe that good players of the earlier generation would have adapted to the modern formats easily. Players like Viv Richards, Gordon Greenidge, Javed Miandad, Saeed Anwar, Desmond Haynes, Kris Srikkanth and even Don Bradman would have made excellent T20 batsmen, had the format been introduced earlier.

Unfortunately though, the era of the real test batsman seems to be passing. How many of today's batsmen are capable of batting for all five days of a test like Alan Lamb, Geoff Boycott, Kim Hughes or M.L.Jaisimha did? I don't know of anyone today who can stay at the crease for session after session and score 300s and 400s like the Laras, Haydens, Sobers, Wally Hammonds or Hanif Mohammeds of yesteryear.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only "weak" aspect of the earlier eras was probably the fielding. Nowadays, the top 3-4 sides are at absolutely top level on this front.

Earlier, you had one or two exceptions in each team..others would pretty much fetch the ball from the ropes, escort it to the ropes (like Ganguly lol) or worse, let it past in between their legs Shocked

But batting and bowling, for me were definitely of a higher standard, and bowlers and batsmen vied for top honors in test matches..and of course, NO HELMETs for the batsmen..
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 23, 2013 1:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You gotta love it when the pitch offers something to the seamers. Very Happy

http://www.espncricinfo.com/the-ashes-2013-14/engine/match/592397.html

Lovely contest. Guess this Ashes is going to be a battle of the pacers.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 23, 2013 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good to see Australia finally sniffing a victory after a long win less streak in test matches for their standards. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 4:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

England comprehensively trashed there! Good work by the Aussies.

But one can expect England to bounce back in the second test, like they did in India. It would be silly on the part of the Aussies to take them for granted.

Australia need to work on their batting lineup. Other than Clarke, Haddin and Warner, the rest are all somewhat shaky.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 07, 2013 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, I take back what I said. England aren't bouncing back. They are running ...away!

Two words - Mitchell Johnson! What a bowler he has become! Absolutely devastating! England seem clueless against him. And to think it was only sometime ago that people were saying that he would never play for Australia again! Love it when players bounce back like that, proving everyone wrong.


Our merry bowlers got thrashed the other night, by a rookie called Quinton de Kock! He even had the chutzpah to point out the technical faults of our guys in the post match conference! I hope we do better in Durban.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 07, 2013 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Our merry bowlers got thrashed the other night, by a rookie called Quinton de Kock! He even had the chutzpah to point out the technical faults of our guys in the post match conference! I hope we do better in Durban.
South Africa are clearly the better team, and they have their own home conditions to boot. Bouncy pitches without much exaggerated seam movement. Apart from Shami, there wasn't much on view for the bowlers. The Indian team is a bit inexperienced right now. The logic of sending in Ishant is perhaps to get some practice in the above bowling conditions in practice matches, get some of his confidence back, and make himself a better prospect for the Australia tour, which is expected to be tougher. The batting is a bit inexperienced as well. There are some good prospects in the team. Even if we get a pasting here, I hope this experience will serve them well on the Australia tour. Speed-wise (do we not have a fascination for this aspect of pace bowling?), I guess Umesh should see more games on this tour. It is nice to see Varun Aaron get some Ranji match practice after his medical troubles. As for Quinton de Kock, he is a very talented young batsman, and an enthusiastic, if not technically perfect keeper. Will he be able to keep up his form, and become one of the batting mainstays of the team like AB or Amla? I guess time will tell.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 2:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Speed-wise (do we not have a fascination for this aspect of pace bowling?)


Yes sir, at least I do. Very Happy

Seam bowling is the ultimate test of a bowlers endurance and a batsman's talent. What's a sport without the danger element eh? Just look at American football, with all that body armor! Sissies! Why don't they play European rugby in shorts and T-shirt like real men do ? Wink

In other news, this POS is spouting his usual garbage again! I fail to understand why we still wine and dine this loser in india!

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/cricket/series-tournament/sachin-tendulkar-hangs-his-boots/top-stories/Sachin-lucky-he-didnt-face-West-Indies-pace-greats-Imran-Khan/articleshow/27034096.cms

Sorry Imran. Pakistan will never produce a player like Tendulkar, whether you like it or not.
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