Airliners-India.com Flickr Group & Facebook    FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  IT 162 BOM-JAI          Airliners-India.com Forum Index -> Trip Reports View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message saurabhm_101 Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 529 Location: Mumbai Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 5:32 pm    Post subject: IT 162 BOM-JAI IT 162 BOM-JAI I was flying with my mum to Jaipur and then Delhi on the 2nd and 3rd of April respectively. We were booked on IT 162 from Mumbai to Jaipur and IT 612 onwards to Delhi. We left the house at about 8:45 am to reach the airport by 9:15 am for a 10:30 am flight. (the flight was actually scheduled for dep. At 11 am but we got a call from Kingfisher a good 5 days in advance.) Surprisingly we were at the airport in under 20 minutes. Check-in was a breeze as we had the Kingfisher’s ground staff helping us with our bags. I had pre-booked our seats and I was seated on 20F with mum on 20E. We were given our boarding passes and were requested to proceed to security check. After security check was cleared, we were waiting at Gate 6 (on the ground floor) for boarding. At that time of day there are many incoming intl flights though I got to see only an Air India Express B737 and the SQ B773. Finally the call for boarding was made and we proceeded to the bus. We were on VT-KFL in no time getting ready for departure. Now the actual flight starts! (The details mentioned below are true and did happen, it might tickle someone and irritate the other but it did happen.) The F/As assigned to the economy cabin were busy in handing out the Kingfisher Packs. I handed over my flight log to the F/A so she could get it signed before departure. She took it giving me a ‘whatever’ look without a smile may I add! Even the packs handed out were done without a single smile. After pushback we begin engine start and the safety announcements begin. I know it was even stupid to ask but I took a shot asking one of the F/As if I could jumpseat. The first one did not even acknowledge neither did the second one. Finally one of them passing by I called out to and asked her if I could jump seat. Here is the exact reply I got “Jumpseat? You mean inside the cockpit? During flight? No sir im sorry but its just not allowed anymore!” I said, “No that’s not true I know people who do it and pilots who allow to do it!” she said, “No sir that’s a major security risk! Its just not allowed because of 9/11! Dint you know that 9/11 happened because of that!” (ahahahahahahahahahahahaha!) I said, “No that’s not why it happened and they still allow it in the US itself!” she said, “No sir! That’s not true! I flew to the US on Singapore Airlines and they dint allow me!” I said, “Well of course they wont because its Singapore Airlines and im talking within the US and not ‘to’ the US.” (hahaha still laughing in my mind!!) She said, “Well no sir its not allowed! And you should never ask again! You can go to jail, for life even for asking! (HAHAHA) I almost got a heart attack when you asked me! (HAHAHA)” While all this happened we already taxied past rwy32-14 and the intl. terminal was to my right! Here is what all I saw: many AI A310s and B747s B757 B767, AIX B737, LH MD-11F, Saudi B747, An-124, SQ B773, Orbis DC-10! By this time we were ready at rwy 27 for take-off. We waited for another Kingfisher A321 to land until we taxied to the runway and were given clearance for take-off which was very smooth! The turn to the right towards Jaipur was very late but was comfortable enough! We leveled off at 10100m above the earth’s surface and soon the meal was served. I chose the non-veg meal in which we were served exactly 3 bites of hakka noodles with 3 small pieces of chilli chicken and cappuccino mousse for desert with tea/coffee ofcourse! But the food was really bad and served without a smile again! The F/A named ‘Glynis’ was serving our rows. Im sure you are familiar with that very loose plastic cover on the desert bowls? Well Ms.Glynis dropped 3 of those on my mum while serving others and dint even bother apologizing or smiling! AGAIN! That kind of ruined the mood! The approach to Jaipur was very rough and turbulent because of the hot and dry weather! Very bad! I even heard remarks from fellow passengers like ‘hope he remembers that this is a plane and not a Ferrari!’ but then the touch down was very smooth! We landed on rwy28 in Jaipur and after a short taxi to the stand, we began to disembark. On reaching the front exit another F/A handed over my flight log with a smile for a change! We walked down the stairs and I asked one of the Kingfisher ground staff if I can take a picture and he agreed! Got really good shots too! The arrival terminal at Jaipur was high above my expectations to be honest! Very clean and organized and small of course! Luggage was out in no time and we got out and left for the hotel! Over all ratings: Aircraft: 9/10 Service: 5/10 Meal: 3/10 Hope you enjoyed this report! I will also be writing JJP-DEL soon! Cheers! Saurabh pics to be out soon! _________________ Flying High.... You and Me...! Last edited by saurabhm_101 on Tue Apr 10, 2007 12:24 am; edited 1 time in total Back to top the_380 Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 2329 Location: Mumbai, India Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 7:01 pm    Post subject: Swear we're really AI-NUTS Nice TR, although sorry about the meals and poor saurabh expectin shayad koi F/A pat jayegi ... hehe just joking... Btw just for ur info Capt. Moonga, the pilots are not allowed to take you inside the cockpit. If he does and a passenger writes it in complaint then the pilot can even lose his job. They're very strict on these issues and the F/A was very much right. These days pilots even fear to take their own relatives, slthough it is not so impossible. So unless you know the captain personally its practically impossible. So you'll have to wait till you get your seat not in th jumpseat but in the P2's seat first regards _________________ http://www.myspace.com/avsatsworld A Walt Disney and 20th Century Fox Audio Producer!!! Back to top saurabhm_101 Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 529 Location: Mumbai Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 7:32 pm    Post subject: firstly its Monga and not 'Moonga' remember that .... i know pilots are not allowed to take you inside the flight deck during flight but are allowed to do so before and after the flight! and whats the harm in trying really? i mean i knew she was gonna say no! but i was like what the heck! dont really know why your getting so agitated! not like i asked a pilot in 'Indian' anyways! not like im every gonna fly it either. cheers _________________ Flying High.... You and Me...! Back to top Birendra Member Joined: 15 Feb 2007 Posts: 1411 Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 8:00 pm    Post subject: I handed over my flight log to the F/A so she could get it signed before departure Did u get it signed eventually.... Also, will you share with us what does a flight log look like. Back to top the_380 Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 2329 Location: Mumbai, India Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 9:04 pm    Post subject: Quote: dont really know why your getting so agitated Agitated oh yes i am! Because of this rule that we are not allowed into the cockpits, my last two trips i wasn't allowed Osama is responsible for all this _________________ http://www.myspace.com/avsatsworld A Walt Disney and 20th Century Fox Audio Producer!!! Back to top deaphen Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 933 Location: India Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 9:37 pm    Post subject: @ Birendra....... here is what Saurabhs and my flight logs look like! nitin Back to top AKLDELNonstop Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 1066 Location: Auckland Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 7:00 am    Post subject: hey dude nice report. You should write to VJM about the air hotties. Its said he responds to the mails himself. Dont know how true that is. I mailed CS once and I got an email that had his signature at the bottom. But I aint sure whether thats really his mail or is it doctored. Anyway it might be a good idea to remind him that smart people with a real smile make better F/As than plastic dolls. Cheers _________________ Geniuses are always misunderstood in their lifetimes. Back to top VABBy Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 823 Location: DEL Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 11:42 am    Post subject: I think the code for Jaipur is JAI and nt JJP _________________ Expeditors- You'd be surprised how far we will go for you www.expeditors.com Back to top the_380 Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 2329 Location: Mumbai, India Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 12:01 pm    Post subject: Wiki says its JAI http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaipur#Air_transport _________________ http://www.myspace.com/avsatsworld A Walt Disney and 20th Century Fox Audio Producer!!! Back to top Nimish Member Joined: 16 Dec 2006 Posts: 9757 Location: Bangalore, India Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 12:06 pm    Post subject: Good report - but where are the pictures????? And where's part 2 of the report? Back to top deaphen Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 933 Location: India Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 2:53 pm    Post subject: VABBy wrote: I think the code for Jaipur is JAI and nt JJP I am pretty sure its Juliet Juliet Papa. (JJP). Heard it from ATC from my headset while jumpseating nitin Back to top himmat01 Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 1392 Location: DEL Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 3:05 pm    Post subject: IATA code is JAI. ICAO code is VIJP. _________________ Save Maharashtra! Back to top deaphen Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 933 Location: India Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 3:09 pm    Post subject: I am pretty sure its JJP, i doubt ATC would be wrong. If you watch my videos on youtube you can clearly hear them refer to it as JJP. nitin Back to top saurabhm_101 Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 529 Location: Mumbai Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 3:10 pm    Post subject: All talk about the IATA code... any about the report? _________________ Flying High.... You and Me...! Back to top himmat01 Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 1392 Location: DEL Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 3:15 pm    Post subject: deaphen wrote: I am pretty sure its JJP, i doubt ATC would be wrong. If you watch my videos on youtube you can clearly hear them refer to it as JJP. nitin ATC uses the ICAO code. What you heard was was VIJP. _________________ Save Maharashtra! Back to top deaphen Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 933 Location: India Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 3:24 pm    Post subject: himmat01 wrote: deaphen wrote: I am pretty sure its JJP, i doubt ATC would be wrong. If you watch my videos on youtube you can clearly hear them refer to it as JJP. nitin ATC uses the ICAO code. What you heard was was VIJP. Possible... but i am 150% sure i heard ATC say Juliet Juliet Papa. lol anyways! Back to top karatecatman Guest Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 4:19 pm    Post subject: Re: IT 162 BOM-JJP Nice TR Quote: “Well no sir its not allowed! And you should never ask again! You can go to jail, for life even for asking! (HAHAHA) I almost got a heart attack when you asked me! (HAHAHA)” Quote: “We leveled off at 10100m above the earth’s surface and soon the meal was served. Were you on Kingfisher Galactic or Kingfisher Airlines? Back to top ABN397 Member Joined: 27 Dec 2006 Posts: 113 Location: India Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 5:58 pm    Post subject: deaphen wrote: himmat01 wrote: deaphen wrote: I am pretty sure its JJP, i doubt ATC would be wrong. If you watch my videos on youtube you can clearly hear them refer to it as JJP. nitin ATC uses the ICAO code. What you heard was was VIJP. Possible... but i am 150% sure i heard ATC say Juliet Juliet Papa. lol anyways! I live in Jaipur. Whatever air tickets I have booked have JAI written on them. So ATCs use different codes-an interesting point. Back to top victor2alpha Member Joined: 08 Apr 2007 Posts: 120 Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 6:16 pm    Post subject: Yeah I saw the vids, and was quite surprised since the code for Jaipur IS JAI, since thats what they use for scheds as well and when we book/checkin etc.. Quite confusing! _________________ victor2alpha Back to top stealthpilot Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 2325 Location: BLR, DXB Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 9:41 pm    Post subject: Re: IT 162 BOM-JJP saurabhm_101 wrote: I handed over my flight log to the F/A so she could get it signed before departure. What’s a flight log exactly? Just for fun? saurabhm_101 wrote: Finally one of them passing by I called out to and asked her if I could jump seat. Here is the exact reply I got “Jumpseat? You mean inside the cockpit? During flight? No sir im sorry but its just not allowed anymore!” I said, “No that’s not true I know people who do it and pilots who allow to do it!” she said, “No sir that’s a major security risk! Its just not allowed because of 9/11! Well firstly you shouldn’t have laughed that much (even in your mind). I’m sure her response was …ummm.... incorrect, but she’s not going to just let you jumpseat randomly. You would be lucky if you got a cockpit visit. saurabhm_101 wrote: Dint you know that 9/11 happened because of that!” (ahahahahahahahahahahahaha!) I said, “No that’s not why it happened and they still allow it in the US itself!” she said, “No sir! That’s not true! I flew to the US on Singapore Airlines and they dint allow me!” I said, “Well of course they wont because its Singapore Airlines and im talking within the US and not ‘to’ the US.” ( Actually no they don’t. She was right; you can’t jumpseat domestic in the U.S. After 9/11 a passenger can’t ask. Well he can but 99.99999% of the time he won’t be allowed to. You can on flights to/from America in international airspace (dependent on the airline of course), but once you reach American airspace it gets a lot harder. Most carriers will rarely allow it unless they know you or you work/intern for them or something. _________________ eP007 Back to top iflytb20 Member Joined: 27 Jan 2007 Posts: 1079 Location: Next to the Airport Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 12:20 am    Post subject: Jaipur ICAO - VIJP IATA - JAI JJP is the VOR Back to top victor2alpha Member Joined: 08 Apr 2007 Posts: 120 Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 1:26 am    Post subject: Re: IT 162 BOM-JJP stealthpilot wrote: saurabhm_101 wrote: I handed over my flight log to the F/A so she could get it signed before departure. What’s a flight log exactly? Just for fun? Collector's item. So you can keep it with you and have all the details. Its just like how some people want to take autographs of their stars/celebs, there are some who like to maintain a log where they get the details like above! You can make your own stuff.. With other stuff like load / routing / flaps setting for takeoff / Vr / Vref etc.. But just that the flight shouldnt be running too late or something, otherwise on the return, when they are busy trying to turn around quickly, you aint gonna get most of it filled.. Then again! Most of the pilots do understand how people can be aviation buffs (coz they themselves are/were one) Heres another example (Not mine) That was for the almighty Concorde flight BTW A.netters, who doesnt know Sam Chui!! Hail the man.. I was quite amused at the comment on the bottom -- Fly BA Today by the Captain.. hehe.. BTW, waiting for the shots of the trip _________________ victor2alpha Back to top stealthpilot Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 2325 Location: BLR, DXB Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 3:50 am    Post subject: heheheh cool _________________ eP007 Back to top Display posts from previous: All Posts1 Day7 Days2 Weeks1 Month3 Months6 Months1 Year Oldest FirstNewest First         Airliners-India.com Forum Index -> Trip Reports All times are GMT + 5.5 Hours Page 1 of 1   Jump to: Select a forum New Members----------------Sign-up Guidelines Airliners-India----------------Civil AviationNon AviationTrip ReportsMilitary Aviation & SpaceInternationalAviation Polls & PreferenceTech/OpsAviation PhotographyEditorial/Analysis/ArticlesAviation HobbyAviation LawAviation Questions & CareersSite Related Flickr Group----------------Photo of the Month My Message Board----------------Pin Up  You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum Powered by phpBB © phpBB Group. 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